The Rolex Forums   The Rolex Watch

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX


Go Back   Rolex Forums - Rolex Forum > Rolex & Tudor Watch Topics > Vintage Rolex Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11 January 2022, 12:47 PM   #1
Dan95
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: London
Posts: 28
Rolex 1603 (Two Tone vs Stainless Steel)

Good day ladies and gents,

Am being offered a 1603 (stamped on the case) in two tone 18k with an accompanying 455b bracelet for c. USD3.5k

Only concern is - to my limited knowledge 1603s are only offered in SS with engine turned bezels (though a quick google on two-tone 1603s result in pics with fluted bezels, etc).

Attached are accompanying pics for reference. Appreciate your input!
Attached Images
File Type: png DF Rolex 1603..png (178.0 KB, 98 views)
File Type: png Rolex16032.png (216.6 KB, 97 views)
File Type: png Rolex 16033.png (175.4 KB, 97 views)
Dan95 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11 January 2022, 12:49 PM   #2
Dan95
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: London
Posts: 28
Re: to threaded quote from Richard back in 2016:

"The 1601 was the most common of the 1570 based DJs and was available in a wide variety of configurations. The various DJ ref are: 1600, smooth or 'polished' bezel, the 1601, fluted bezel, 1603, engine turned bezel, 1625, Turn-O-Graph or Thunderbird bezel.

The 1601 always had a gold fluted bezel available in WG, YG and at various times RG. Standard configurations were YG with a TT jubilee or oyster bracelet, jubilee far more common. WG bezel with a SS jubilee bracelet, also available with an SS oyster. All were available on a strap.

As the 1601 approach 60 years old you might consider that their configurations may have been altered with the changing winds of fashion during their lives. It's easy to change a YG to a WG and vice versa. SS is popular right now and many YG have been converted to WG. This can be problematic should you wish to have a Rolex service. Only Rolex knows how your watch left the factory and if it's been altered they would force you to put it back to original before they will service it. As 1570 based watches age out of factory servicing this will of course, become moot. Original paperwork can tell you how your watch left the factory as well. 1625 and 1600 are also subject to these alterations. The 1603 was only ever available in SS.

This is just basic information, there were other more esoteric refs, solid gold models, a staggering array of dials.

My favorite 1603..."

(source: https://www.rolexforums.com/showthre...highlight=1603)
Dan95 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11 January 2022, 12:51 PM   #3
Dan S
2024 Pledge Member
 
Dan S's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Colorado, USA
Posts: 6,262
If the case is truly marked 1603, then it has been converted to look like a 1601 by swapping parts, which is common enough. However it's also possible that the seller just made a mistake and it's actually a 1601. Do you have photos from between the lugs or are you just taking the seller's word for it?
__________________
@oldwatchdan on IG
Dan S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11 January 2022, 12:56 PM   #4
Dan95
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: London
Posts: 28
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan S View Post
If the case is truly marked 1603, then it has been converted to look like a 1601 by swapping parts, which is common enough. However it's also possible that the seller just made a mistake and it's actually a 1601. Do you have photos from between the lugs or are you just taking the seller's word for it?
Will take clearer photos between the lugs.

Actually being sold by a buddy of mine - and the pics were taken by me

Had some concerns re: the bracelet as the bottom part is a bit jagged and looks more 10k/14k rather than 18k per hallmark but watch shop says it checks out though looks abit ratty
Dan95 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11 January 2022, 03:09 PM   #5
rmurphy
2024 Pledge Member
 
rmurphy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Real Name: Richard
Location: Augusta Georgia
Watch: 16600
Posts: 1,058
Looks well worn honestly. I’d hold out for one in better shape or offer the seller 2200-2500 bucks in order to budget for a full reconditioning with someone like Rolliworks. But honestly I’d recommend passing on this one.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
rmurphy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11 January 2022, 03:22 PM   #6
Dan95
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: London
Posts: 28
Just checked the clasp code its AB hence year 2000.

But the bracelet says Steelinox "A" - so 1976?

Or am i missing something.
Dan95 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Takuya Watches

My Watch LLC

OCWatches

Asset Appeal

Wrist Aficionado

DavidSW Watches


*Banners Of The Month*
This space is provided to horological resources.





Copyright ©2004-2024, The Rolex Forums. All Rights Reserved.

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX

Rolex is a registered trademark of ROLEX USA. The Rolex Forums is not affiliated with ROLEX USA in any way.