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Pedray · 12 May 2022, 04:23 AM

Hi guys,

Please see below the pictures of my new 1501 from 1975. Would you know if this is a redial or even a fake??

It seems that this dial existed but I cannot find it in the catalogue from 1975.

Than you Roro Forums community

Pedray · 12 May 2022, 06:06 PM

Up? :) Thank you!

TuRo · 12 May 2022, 06:18 PM

Not an expert on this model but they made a few dial types. Most blue I have seen the minute markers go to edge of dial like first below. But some like second below stand away from rehaut - it's a sigma non hyphen of version eg not - date - . I have never seen one with such long second markers and shorter half second markers though - so I'm inclined toward refinish.

Rolex Oyster Perpetual Date
£4,201
https://chrono24.app/rolex/rolex-oys...GB&SETCURR=GBP

Rolex Oyster Perpetual Date
£3,834
https://chrono24.app/rolex/rolex-dat...GB&SETCURR=GBP

Pedray · 12 May 2022, 07:46 PM

Thank you Paul! Hmm after a few search it seems that this dial existed even if not referenced in 1975 catalogue.

The dial is called "half radial", dials like this seem rarer, seems that Rolex only produced them for 2 years.

But still not sure where to find more information. Seems to be a super rare dial... ! I know the normal radial / rail dial for the OP 1500/1501 but this one... hard to find!

Pedray · 12 May 2022, 07:59 PM

Thank you Paul! :)

I found the same watch by Googling.
Seems it's a super rare dial, called "half radial" (vs. normal radial) and that Rolex produced it during only 2 years.

But still I would appreciate if someone has more information :). The dial was not listed in the 1975 catalogue.

padi56 · 12 May 2022, 08:01 PM

Yes both Rolex and Tudor used these dials back in the 1970s

TuRo · 12 May 2022, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by padi56

Yes both Rolex and Tudor used these dials back in the 1970s

I'll get my coat ;-)

Those sigma symbols look odd mind.

Pedray · 12 May 2022, 10:44 PM

Thank you both :). Padi56 that's what I thought :) thank you!

swish77 · 12 May 2022, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedray

Hi guys,

Please see below the pictures of my new 1501 from 1975. Would you know if this is a redial or even a fake??

It seems that this dial existed but I cannot find it in the catalogue from 1975.

Than you Roro Forums community

Very nice-looking Date. Looks good! Also, I'd doubt the bad guys would be faking the Date model, but I guess you never know.

Pedray · 12 May 2022, 11:25 PM

Swish77, yes thanks! I don't expect a replica neither!

TuRo · 12 May 2022, 11:42 PM

Looks like this sigma one in smooth sister 1500 ...
https://www.chrono24.com/rolex/rolex...16626.htm#gref

Pedray · 12 May 2022, 11:57 PM

Yes Pauldavidthorpe, I saw this one too, I would expect that the 1500 and 1501 shared the same dials :).

Pedray · 12 May 2022, 11:59 PM

Pauldavidthorpe thanks :), I saw it too seems the 1500 and 1501 shared the same dials.

Pedray · 13 May 2022, 12:26 AM

Thank you PaulDavidThorpe. Yes I guess the 1500 and 1501 shared the same dials.

Dan S · 13 May 2022, 01:27 AM

I like the dial, it's interesting and a bit different than the typical ones we see every day. I doubt that every dial variation was shown in the catalog. Also, for what it's worth, I suspect your watch is earlier than 1975, more like 1973 IMO, but it's not possible to know exactly.

Pedray · 13 May 2022, 04:59 AM

Coming from Switzerland I am sending it to Rolex for further analysis :).:)

Pedray · 13 May 2022, 05:30 AM

Coming from Switzerland it’s going to Rolex for analysis.

:)

lfcg_007 · 22 July 2022, 01:37 PM

Hi All. I am new to the forum and new Rolex owner. I actually purchased the one on the link above. picture on chronos did not make it justice. Im in love with this watch.

Woody · 22 July 2022, 04:48 PM

I am sure that the chap who auctioned off the Paul Newman Daytona (Aurel Bacs) has one of these (same dial) in his collection - I watched an interview with him during which he shared some of his personal watch collection. If my memory is correct then you are in excellent company

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L.K Johnson · 23 July 2022, 06:59 AM

Yowza! Found a twin for ya!

Pedray · 25 September 2022, 08:58 PM

All good Roro fam! :), went to Bucherer who sent it to Rolex, got it back yesterday (after 5 months). All in order just got a cleaning quote offer from Bucherer (offered by Rolex in the back I guess). No any paper from Rolex but I guess they checked the dial ref, the case and caliber serials.

dhknola · 27 September 2022, 01:22 AM

IG:Morillo had one of these for sale not too long ago, near certain it's a legit watch and authentic dial.

330ci · 27 September 2022, 01:33 AM

Sigma dial with painted indices as well. You don't see too many with the painted indices, a personal favorite feature found on early 70s Rolex midsized watches.

Pedray · 27 September 2022, 03:47 AM

Yes thanks :). Quite a super rare and beautiful dial! 100% authentic (no redial or I don’t know what…)

12 May 2022, 06:18 PM	#3
TuRo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Real Name: Paul Location: Cantabrigia - G.B Watch: ing the detectives Posts: 2,813	Not an expert on this model but they made a few dial types. Most blue I have seen the minute markers go to edge of dial like first below. But some like second below stand away from rehaut - it's a sigma non hyphen of version eg not - date - . I have never seen one with such long second markers and shorter half second markers though - so I'm inclined toward refinish. Rolex Oyster Perpetual Date £4,201 https://chrono24.app/rolex/rolex-oys...GB&SETCURR=GBP Rolex Oyster Perpetual Date £3,834 https://chrono24.app/rolex/rolex-dat...GB&SETCURR=GBP __________________ Thieves and fools and long travelled soldiers, A candid light exposes their homes. Human falter, people bellowed from their homes. And houses, there's fools and long reigning pharaohs. IT BITES - Yellow Christian

12 May 2022, 08:01 PM	#6
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12 May 2022, 11:42 PM	#11
TuRo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Real Name: Paul Location: Cantabrigia - G.B Watch: ing the detectives Posts: 2,813	Looks like this sigma one in smooth sister 1500 ... https://www.chrono24.com/rolex/rolex...16626.htm#gref __________________ Thieves and fools and long travelled soldiers, A candid light exposes their homes. Human falter, people bellowed from their homes. And houses, there's fools and long reigning pharaohs. IT BITES - Yellow Christian

13 May 2022, 01:27 AM	#15
Dan S 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 6,262	I like the dial, it's interesting and a bit different than the typical ones we see every day. I doubt that every dial variation was shown in the catalog. Also, for what it's worth, I suspect your watch is earlier than 1975, more like 1973 IMO, but it's not possible to know exactly. __________________ @oldwatchdan on IG

22 July 2022, 01:37 PM	#18
lfcg_007 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2022 Location: Miami Posts: 1	1970 Rolex Oyster Perpetual Date Ref.1500 with Factory Blue Radial Sigma Dial Hi All. I am new to the forum and new Rolex owner. I actually purchased the one on the link above. picture on chronos did not make it justice. Im in love with this watch.

12 May 2022, 06:06 PM	#2
Pedray "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2022 Location: Zürich Posts: 13	Up? :) Thank you!

12 May 2022, 07:46 PM	#4
Pedray "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2022 Location: Zürich Posts: 13	Thank you Paul! Hmm after a few search it seems that this dial existed even if not referenced in 1975 catalogue. The dial is called "half radial", dials like this seem rarer, seems that Rolex only produced them for 2 years. But still not sure where to find more information. Seems to be a super rare dial... ! I know the normal radial / rail dial for the OP 1500/1501 but this one... hard to find!

12 May 2022, 07:59 PM	#5
Pedray "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2022 Location: Zürich Posts: 13	Thank you Paul! :) I found the same watch by Googling. Seems it's a super rare dial, called "half radial" (vs. normal radial) and that Rolex produced it during only 2 years. But still I would appreciate if someone has more information :). The dial was not listed in the 1975 catalogue.

12 May 2022, 10:44 PM	#8
Pedray "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2022 Location: Zürich Posts: 13	Thank you both :). Padi56 that's what I thought :) thank you!

12 May 2022, 11:25 PM	#10
Pedray "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2022 Location: Zürich Posts: 13	Swish77, yes thanks! I don't expect a replica neither!

12 May 2022, 11:57 PM	#12
Pedray "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2022 Location: Zürich Posts: 13	Yes Pauldavidthorpe, I saw this one too, I would expect that the 1500 and 1501 shared the same dials :).

12 May 2022, 11:59 PM	#13
Pedray "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2022 Location: Zürich Posts: 13	Pauldavidthorpe thanks :), I saw it too seems the 1500 and 1501 shared the same dials.

13 May 2022, 12:26 AM	#14
Pedray "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2022 Location: Zürich Posts: 13	Thank you PaulDavidThorpe. Yes I guess the 1500 and 1501 shared the same dials.

13 May 2022, 04:59 AM	#16
Pedray "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2022 Location: Zürich Posts: 13	Coming from Switzerland I am sending it to Rolex for further analysis :).:)

13 May 2022, 05:30 AM	#17
Pedray "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2022 Location: Zürich Posts: 13	Coming from Switzerland it’s going to Rolex for analysis. :)

22 July 2022, 04:48 PM	#19
Woody "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Africa Posts: 1,127	I am sure that the chap who auctioned off the Paul Newman Daytona (Aurel Bacs) has one of these (same dial) in his collection - I watched an interview with him during which he shared some of his personal watch collection. If my memory is correct then you are in excellent company .

23 July 2022, 06:59 AM	#20
L.K Johnson "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: / Posts: 1,741	Yowza! Found a twin for ya!

25 September 2022, 08:58 PM	#21
Pedray "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2022 Location: Zürich Posts: 13	All good Roro fam! :), went to Bucherer who sent it to Rolex, got it back yesterday (after 5 months). All in order just got a cleaning quote offer from Bucherer (offered by Rolex in the back I guess). No any paper from Rolex but I guess they checked the dial ref, the case and caliber serials.

27 September 2022, 01:22 AM	#22
dhknola "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: New Orleans Posts: 1,174	IG:Morillo had one of these for sale not too long ago, near certain it's a legit watch and authentic dial.

27 September 2022, 01:33 AM	#23
330ci "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: michigan Posts: 2,343	Sigma dial with painted indices as well. You don't see too many with the painted indices, a personal favorite feature found on early 70s Rolex midsized watches.

27 September 2022, 03:47 AM	#24
Pedray "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2022 Location: Zürich Posts: 13	Yes thanks :). Quite a super rare and beautiful dial! 100% authentic (no redial or I don’t know what…)

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