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iwhelan · 24 October 2009, 12:51 AM

Hello everyone,

When did the sides of the GMT bracelet start to come polished from the factory? Also, were there some years when the GMT Master came with a Submariner style clasp with the dive extension? I have seen a couple GMTs with this clasp.

thanks,
Ian

Dan Pierce · 24 October 2009, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by iwhelan

Hello everyone,

When did the sides of the GMT bracelet start to come polished from the factory? Also, were there some years when the GMT Master came with a Submariner style clasp with the dive extension? I have seen a couple GMTs with this clasp.

thanks,
Ian

Afaik, it's always had polished sides. However, I think a Sub bracelet was available for a while on the GMT but can't remember when.
dP

Tools · 24 October 2009, 01:07 AM

It depends on the bracelet that came on the GMT... You would have to go back to the very early days to find bracelets that were not polisihed on the sides..

As far as the "Submariner style clasp".... No... the GMT was available with the 93150 bracelet for much of it's production run... it is the exact same bracelet as used on the Sub including the flight-suit extension; - it does not have polished sides.

iwhelan · 24 October 2009, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Tools

As far as the "Submariner style clasp".... No... the GMT was available with the 93150 bracelet for much of it's production run... it is the exact same bracelet as used on the Sub including the flight-suit extension; - it does not have polished sides.

So this was an optional bracelet on the GMT? It is identical to the bracelet that is on the Submariner (including the brushed sides) and was available on the GMT for some time if one wanted an extension vs the standard clasp which was smaller and did not have an extension?

-Ian

Tools · 24 October 2009, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by iwhelan

So this was an optional bracelet on the GMT? It is identical to the bracelet that is on the Submariner (including the brushed sides) and was available on the GMT for some time if one wanted an extension vs the standard clasp which was smaller and did not have an extension?

-Ian

Yes... Just like this one of mine...

iwhelan · 24 October 2009, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Tools

Yes... Just like this one of mine...

Interesting. So you could just have the AD change the bracelet at purchase time? Was this an option up until the ceramic GMT replaced the traditional style?

Any idea when this option started?

And this was sold as a "flight-suit extension" rather than a dive extension even though it was identical?

-Ian

Tools · 24 October 2009, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by iwhelan

Interesting. So you could just have the AD change the bracelet at purchase time? Was this an option up until the ceramic GMT replaced the traditional style?

Any idea when this option started?

And this was sold as a "flight-suit extension" rather than a dive extension even though it was identical?

-Ian

"flight-suit extension" are my words..

There was a time that an AD would put any bracelet on that you wanted... but you could order a GMT Master with the 93150 Oyster bracelet since the bracelet first came out right up until the GMT Master was discontinued in 1999..

I would say that within the past 10 years, AD's have not modified a Rolex for the customer at all.... and so, no, you couldn't just get one put on in recent years..

Submarino · 24 October 2009, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Tools

"flight-suit extension" are my words..

There was a time that an AD would put any bracelet on that you wanted... but you could order a GMT Master with the 93150 Oyster bracelet since the bracelet first came out right up until the GMT Master was discontinued in 1999..

I would say that within the past 10 years, AD's have not modified a Rolex for the customer at all.... and so, no, you couldn't just get one put on in recent years..

Larry, just go to the RSC in Mexico and they'll show you what being flexible is about. They will even place a white dial with roman numerals on your watch even if the watch originally didn't come with it. Gotta love them!!!!

iwhelan · 24 October 2009, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Tools

"flight-suit extension" are my words..

There was a time that an AD would put any bracelet on that you wanted... but you could order a GMT Master with the 93150 Oyster bracelet since the bracelet first came out right up until the GMT Master was discontinued in 1999..

Ok, but a GMT Master II (16710) has no business having that bracelet on it? Only the GMT Master I?

Thanks.

-Ian

springer · 24 October 2009, 02:11 PM

Dealers could order GMT II's with the 93150 Submarine bracelet. This bracelet has a satin finish on the sides of the links and the diver's extension. If your GMT II came with the Submariner band, your warranty paper will be coded in the style number and would end in 9315, which indicates a Submariner band.

The other GMT II band, style number 78790, looks like the Submariner band clasp, but does not have the diver's extension. Also, the sides of the links are polished.

I've owned two or three GMT's with the 93150 Submariner band. The 78790 band is the most common variation of Oyster band found on GMT II's.

Before the 78790 band, the 78360 band was used on GMT's thru the mid to late 1980's.

Speed · 24 October 2009, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Tools

Yes... Just like this one of mine...

Larry... What Series is this GMT ???

24 October 2009, 12:51 AM	#1
iwhelan "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: Ian Location: Ridgewood, NJ USA Posts: 83	GMT Master bracelet question Hello everyone, When did the sides of the GMT bracelet start to come polished from the factory? Also, were there some years when the GMT Master came with a Submariner style clasp with the dive extension? I have seen a couple GMTs with this clasp. thanks, Ian

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Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,495	It depends on the bracelet that came on the GMT... You would have to go back to the very early days to find bracelets that were not polisihed on the sides.. As far as the "Submariner style clasp".... No... the GMT was available with the 93150 bracelet for much of it's production run... it is the exact same bracelet as used on the Sub including the flight-suit extension; - it does not have polished sides. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

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springer 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,308	Dealers could order GMT II's with the 93150 Submarine bracelet. This bracelet has a satin finish on the sides of the links and the diver's extension. If your GMT II came with the Submariner band, your warranty paper will be coded in the style number and would end in 9315, which indicates a Submariner band. The other GMT II band, style number 78790, looks like the Submariner band clasp, but does not have the diver's extension. Also, the sides of the links are polished. I've owned two or three GMT's with the 93150 Submariner band. The 78790 band is the most common variation of Oyster band found on GMT II's. Before the 78790 band, the 78360 band was used on GMT's thru the mid to late 1980's. __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

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