5117 - Unisex enough for men?

[only1swami]

(typo in title and couldn't edit! sorry)

Starting to explore Patek but more on the smaller case size end

Sadly the 5711 is 40mm ...not the best for folks with smaller wrist size (5.25"-5.5")

Studied the 7118 in detail and seems pretty close enough to the 5711 flavor but at 35mm case size

https://www.patek.com/en/collection/...us/7118-1A-001

Aside from that, no sticks at 12PM, and date window at 6PM, I couldn't find any other major differences

Do folks think this is unisex or am I missing something that makes it only for ladies?

I'm also in line for a 77350ST AP (34mm RO) which is also branded as ladies but seems pretty unisex when I tried it

Is this piece just as difficult to get in line for? Thank you!

[ts3]

Unisex or not I would not want a 7118. Not a pretty watch in my eyes. I don't like any of the wave dial, the 12, the hands, the date at 6, and the thin less masculine bezel.

I'd much rather get a preowned 3800 or 5800 (depending on budget) if I had very small wrists. The 3800 is fairly true to the original 3700 case shape whereas 5800 is a smaller version of 5711 launched at the same time in 2006. The 5800 is a fairly rare watch as most people got a 5711 instead and the 5800 got discontinued quickly.

[JSCP]

Originally Posted by only1swami

(typo in title and couldn't edit! sorry)

Starting to explore Patek but more on the smaller case size end

Sadly the 5711 is 40mm ...not the best for folks with smaller wrist size (5.25"-5.5")

Studied the 7118 in detail and seems pretty close enough to the 5711 flavor but at 35mm case size

https://www.patek.com/en/collection/...us/7118-1A-001

Aside from that, no sticks at 12PM, and date window at 6PM, I couldn't find any other major differences

Do folks think this is unisex or am I missing something that makes it only for ladies?

I'm also in line for a 77350ST AP (34mm RO) which is also branded as ladies but seems pretty unisex when I tried it

Is this piece just as difficult to get in line for? Thank you!

I have 7118r, and love it. it’s actually 38mm horizontally ans lugs to lug.

when I was trying it at the AD a couple of months ago, there were a group of 3 young men and they love it and thought it was the men’s model.

I love it.

it’s as hard as most nautilus, but again you have to try it on an decide. they waves on dials are great (like a rolex box waves in a way).

Don’t let the people that are so square tell you xxxx,) try it on. ans if you like it , who cares!

tiita a great designs an the 3800 model from 1990’s is same size basically

Best

[nhk]

It is clear from the design and the categorisation that Patek intended the 7118 for the female audience. ts3 hits the nail on the head when referring to the dial, hands and bezel as being less masculine. The fact that OP is asking the question about whether this watch is not intended for females suggests looking for a watch more in keeping with the sportier 5711.

Personally, I find the watch not my style. It’s dainty, blingy (in the gold versions), small and for me targeted at the female segment. But it’s what you want and are comfortable to wear in the end.

[de66]

Originally Posted by only1swami

(typo in title and couldn't edit! sorry)

Starting to explore Patek but more on the smaller case size end

Sadly the 5711 is 40mm ...not the best for folks with smaller wrist size (5.25"-5.5")

Studied the 7118 in detail and seems pretty close enough to the 5711 flavor but at 35mm case size

https://www.patek.com/en/collection/...us/7118-1A-001

Aside from that, no sticks at 12PM, and date window at 6PM, I couldn't find any other major differences

Do folks think this is unisex or am I missing something that makes it only for ladies?

I'm also in line for a 77350ST AP (34mm RO) which is also branded as ladies but seems pretty unisex when I tried it

Is this piece just as difficult to get in line for? Thank you!

When I open the link you provided, the first thing I see next to the picture is that it says "Ladies Automatic". That should tell you enough. You can wear a dress and call it unisex, but its still a dress. It is how Patek intended it, how they launched it, and how they present it on their own website.

If you specifically want a nautilus its good advice to go with 5800 or 3800, but their prices have exploded. Otherwise you would be better off looking into calatravas. I have a 5127 which is a smaller size because its a dress watch.

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[nhk]

Originally Posted by de66

You can wear a dress and call it unisex, but its still a dress.

Brilliant. Just brilliant. Couldn’t have said it better.

[Starwalker]

at a loss of words. I wouldn't do it.

[2nastie]

Definitely up to you. If you like it go for it, but it does carry design cues catered for the female audience. Hands, dual layout, etc.

I would pass on that basis. I would purchase a 3800 which carry the same size.

Don’t get caught up or cave into the “I must have a Nautilus” craze where you now jump into ladies or kids size in order to own something. Patek has more watches to choose from. Classic Calatrava > the wrong Nautilus.

[Nsane]

As others have said, get a 3800.
The 3800 also offers the possibility of blue dial and matching date disk.

[jon_jon]

It is unfortunate that most people here have never seen or tried on a 5711 in person. The watch is not really 40mm and it is rather a small watch for an average man's wrist by today's standard. The 3800 is even smaller than a 5711 as it was produced a couple of decades ago.

Although OP states he has a small wrist size, you can't just go by the 40mm stated size. If you can't try on a watch in person, try to find comparison photos with another reference you are familiar with next to it.

Just trying to help those who have never seen a 5711 or any other Nautilus while getting caught up in the craze a bit of realistic perspective.

[Ichiran]

Originally Posted by jon_jon

It is unfortunate that most people here have never seen or tried on a 5711 in person. The watch is not really 40mm and it is rather a small watch for an average man's wrist by today's standard. The 3800 is even smaller than a 5711 as it was produced a couple of decades ago.

Although OP states he has a small wrist size, you can't just go by the 40mm stated size. If you can't try on a watch in person, try to find comparison photos with another reference you are familiar with next to it.

Just trying to help those who have never seen a 5711 or any other Nautilus while getting caught up in the craze a bit of realistic perspective.

This is right. The stated 40mm of a 5711 is from 10 to 4, which is the hypotenuse. The sides would be smaller than 40mm. It feels and looks smaller than a "conventional" round 40mm.

The Cartier Santos Large, at 40mm by 40mm, is significantly bigger than the 5711 when compared side-to-side.

[David001]

I like it and I think making watches gender specific is a bit sad really, but you won't change hundreds of years of conditioning any time soon, some people get terribly upset if you challenge their definition of masculinity.

Patek sell it as a ladies watch, so it's indelibly that forever.

[JSCP]

Originally Posted by David001

I like it and I think making watches gender specific is a bit sad really, but you won't change hundreds of years of conditioning any time soon, some people get terribly upset if you challenge their definition of masculinity.

Patek sells it as a ladies watch, so it's indelibly that forever.

- I have a 7118r, which I mentioned in this Forum, I love it and it’s my watch (.)
- Agree with David001’s post, again it’s advertised as a ladies. so what?
- Reminder btw, that’s All Rolex - Rolex boxes btw have green waves
- Insecure-guys will always go for what’s standard/‘men’s sizes etc. If it was advertised as medium size, this would be v
- A Porsche in pink is still a Porsche, and it’s feminine if you think pink is just for
females.

Nowadays a Rolex 36mm is “considered” small for men. But plenty of guys wear vintage. Women wear “men” watches all the time. Men wear their vintage 32mm -34mm cases. Who cares? The only one to care is you, no matter what anyone else thinks.

- BTW my AD says 7118 are sold by him to many men that do not want a “40mm”

- Most people want a Rolex Daytona SS, and never really even have tried it on. It wears small, and it’s not that interesting in steel.

- So far men or women have commented on my 7118r, they don’t know what’s a advertised as, they like it.

- Many consider diamonds on men “sized” watches as feminine, rainbow Daytona, well it has “rainbow”.

-Buy and wear what you like, tiny, medium watches for women if you want to!

cheers,




Cheers

[italiafan]

Believe me when I say I am far from either a SJW or “woke,” but it seems to me you can wear any watch you want. The only real question is do you like it?

[V25V]

No way. My wife has a 7118 and its way too feminine.

[dannyp]

If you want small, why not go for the old 5066? A relative bargain compared to other steel Patek these days.