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Old 21 July 2021, 03:31 AM   #1
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Is it worth it to fix bracelet stretch?

I have a sea dweller and the bracelet seems like it's starting to stretch a bit. Noticeable spacing between the links and you can see the bracelet sag if you turn it sideways. I'm wondering if it diminishes the value at all having someone like rolliworks or other weld it and if it's a good long term solution? Or should I just leave it as is? Can provide pictures to show what mine looks like if that helps.

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Old 21 July 2021, 03:38 AM   #2
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Do provide a pic. It’s always better. Are we talking old tin bracelets that look like they belong on a low quality watch? I don’t trust my old seaD bracelet, I wear it on nato or other straps. I wanted to buy a new one but it was quite pricey compared to the quality and fit of the bracelet. I would say yes, get a quote. No it will not devalue it.
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Old 21 July 2021, 03:42 AM   #3
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Yes, its worth it. Generally there is no 'welding' involved. The links are simply separated and new bars are inserted thus taking up the wear. The wear is largely on the connecting bars in the links and not the links themselves.
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Old 21 July 2021, 03:51 AM   #4
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100% worth it if the stretch is noticeable.
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Old 21 July 2021, 05:28 AM   #5
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Yes, if you wait for the links to grind away at each other you need welding to fix it. Now probably only new pins
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Old 21 July 2021, 05:34 AM   #6
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Yes, if you wait for the links to grind away at each other you need welding to fix it. Now probably only new pins
Looks like they're quoting for "welding" already. Any experience with rolliworks and them only charging for actual PIN replacement if that's what the issue is only? Or am I paying this price regardless of what they do?
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Old 21 July 2021, 05:45 AM   #7
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Is it worth it to fix bracelet stretch?

You’ll need to inspect your own bracelet, talk with them, and send it in to get actual final estimate.

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Old 21 July 2021, 05:51 AM   #8
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i think it's worth it to fix a stretch bracelet but again, that's just me
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Old 21 July 2021, 06:31 AM   #9
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Old 21 July 2021, 07:11 AM   #10
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I have a sea dweller and the bracelet seems like it's starting to stretch a bit. Noticeable spacing between the links and you can see the bracelet sag if you turn it sideways. I'm wondering if it diminishes the value at all having someone like rolliworks or other weld it and if it's a good long term solution? Or should I just leave it as is? Can provide pictures to show what mine looks like if that helps.

Thanks in advance!
How old is the watch/bracelet. Honestly unless it's some ancient bracelet on it's last legs it'll be fine for now.

e: after looking at the picture, just leave it be. Looks totally fine and comfortable.
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Old 21 July 2021, 07:21 AM   #11
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I’d get it fixed because saggy bracelets are a pet peeve of mine.
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Old 21 July 2021, 07:25 AM   #12
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Old 21 July 2021, 07:28 AM   #13
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Is it worth it to fix bracelet stretch?

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While that “stretch” isn’t severe, we should understand what is happening. The pins that connect each link to its neighbor are wearing down a little bit at a time. But the wear isn’t even across all pins.

Bottom line, the risk of severe stretch is a pin failing at the worst possible time. Who’s to know when and where?

If you take off the bracelet, put on a strap or NATO, then you can send the bracelet in for a quote while still wearing your watch - and go from there.


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Old 21 July 2021, 07:43 AM   #14
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While that “stretch” isn’t severe, we should understand what is happening. The pins that connect each link to its neighbor are wearing down a little bit at a time. But the wear isn’t even across all pins.

Bottom line, the risk of severe stretch is a pin failing at the worst possible time. Who’s to know when and where?

If you take off the bracelet, put on a strap or NATO, then you can send the bracelet in for a quote while still wearing your watch - and go from there.


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If modern Rolex bracelets are likely to fail with that level of stretch, then I'll pour one out for the legendary durability and engineering of Rolex bracelets.

You should see the stretch of my 1603's jubilee bracelet!
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Old 21 July 2021, 07:46 AM   #15
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If modern Rolex bracelets are likely to fail with that level of stretch, then I'll pour one out for the legendary durability and engineering of Rolex bracelets.

You should see the stretch of my 1603's jubilee bracelet!

I stated it wasn’t severe. But any single pin could be more worn at a point than a bracelet with severe stretch.

What OP does, or anyone else does, is totally their choice.


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Old 21 July 2021, 08:04 AM   #16
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I stated it wasn’t severe. But any single pin could be more worn at a point than a bracelet with severe stretch.

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Sure, but your phrasing appears pretty alarmist. There's very little wrong with the bracelet OP posted from the pictures provided.
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Old 21 July 2021, 08:09 AM   #17
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Sure, but your phrasing appears pretty alarmist. There's very little wrong with the bracelet OP posted from the pictures provided.

What part was alarmist?

OP wanted to know about cost and the only way to do that is send it in for a fair estimate.


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Old 21 July 2021, 08:13 AM   #18
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I had a 35+ year old jubilee bracelet and getting it fixed was a major upgrade. It is ready for the next 35! Highly recommended
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Old 21 July 2021, 08:15 AM   #19
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I had a 35+ year old jubilee bracelet and getting it fixed was a major upgrade. It is ready for the next 35! Highly recommended
My jubilee bracelet is similarly fanged. It'll need some work in the next few years but having a 40+ year old jubilee is a bit different to the modern Oyster bracelets which are barely sagging due to the wear on the pins/links.

If anyone is really worried about their bracelet, you can always change it for a strap!
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Old 21 July 2021, 08:44 AM   #20
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Depends on circumstance. If the watch is valuable to you and you plan on keeping it forever. Yes it is worth it. An example of this would be an inheritance that has significant sentimental value and you plan on wearing it.
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Old 21 July 2021, 10:26 AM   #21
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This bracelet is 50 years old and is used daily. I simply can't understand this craziness. On the vintage forum they destroy vintage bracelets daily lol, They jerk out 50 year old Rolex pins to slap some cheap one size fits all pins of suspect origin but their links are tight for a while.

It used to irritate me but then I realized it was making my originals more valuable. :) That oyster sub bracelet shown is perfect, check back with me in 49 years and we'll talk. :)





They are supposed to be "broken in" kids. Learn how Rolex works before starting to destroy stuff, you'll be glad you did. :)
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Old 21 July 2021, 11:11 AM   #22
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Your bracelet looks bad be os the links have already worn each other off due to the sag. Do get the pins replaced to prevent further damage. Otherwise get a set of new links and reuse the clasp.
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Old 21 July 2021, 11:15 AM   #23
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About a week ago I posted a picture of my dads YG Presidential that a number of people on the forum recommended I have fixed by Rolliworks.
I happened to take the watch to Rolex Service on Wilshire and asked them to fix the stretch in the bracelet. Rolex said they don't do that and don't recommend it.

I don't really have a stance on this issue. Just sharing what was shared with me.
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Old 21 July 2021, 12:17 PM   #24
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This bracelet is 50 years old and is used daily. I simply can't understand this craziness. On the vintage forum they destroy vintage bracelets daily lol, They jerk out 50 year old Rolex pins to slap some cheap one size fits all pins of suspect origin but their links are tight for a while.

It used to irritate me but then I realized it was making my originals more valuable. :) That oyster sub bracelet shown is perfect, check back with me in 49 years and we'll talk. :)



They are supposed to be "broken in" kids. Learn how Rolex works before starting to destroy stuff, you'll be glad you did. :)
I’ve never seen a Rolex with an exhibition case back. What’s the story here?
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Is a new bracelet out of the question?
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I’ve never seen a Rolex with an exhibition case back. What’s the story here?
I enjoy them. :) Rolex movements are a thing of beauty to me and I have these case backs on most of my watches, here's a closer view of the 1968 1603 movement. 52 years old and NOS appearing, look at those screw heads. :)



Here's some more of my collection with the naughty bits showing.


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Unlike cheap replacement pins in Rolex bracelets, these cam be replaced with the originals in 2 minutes. :)
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Old 21 July 2021, 04:14 PM   #28
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This bracelet is 50 years old and is used daily. I simply can't understand this craziness. On the vintage forum they destroy vintage bracelets daily lol, They jerk out 50 year old Rolex pins to slap some cheap one size fits all pins of suspect origin but their links are tight for a while.

It used to irritate me but then I realized it was making my originals more valuable. :) That oyster sub bracelet shown is perfect, check back with me in 49 years and we'll talk. :)





They are supposed to be "broken in" kids. Learn how Rolex works before starting to destroy stuff, you'll be glad you did. :)
Your watch looks amazing - I imagine that it is as comfortable to wear as a favorite pair of blue jeans. Great photography

I think that stretch just works with the jubilee bracelet because it is some much more intricate in construction almost like beads so it seems to just make it easier to wear the looser it gets.

But with the oyster bracelet the solid, sturdy feel is gone which IMHO is one of the main reasons that the bracelet is so comfortable - because it is tight.

Given that they wear differently I would recommend having that done.

I thought that the RSC would do that as part of the basic overhaul should it be requested but someone said they don't do that? Odd
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Old 21 July 2021, 05:08 PM   #29
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Looks like they're quoting for "welding" already. Any experience with rolliworks and them only charging for actual PIN replacement if that's what the issue is only? Or am I paying this price regardless of what they do?
From the pictures it looks that only a pin replacement would suffice. Personally if already some welding is required I would have that done as well. Saving a few bucks doesn’t make sense for another decade(s) of use.

If you do sent it in tell them not to polish the crown on the clasp. I’ve seen many crowns lost detail or grinded almost flush which look horrible.

Never dealt with Rolliworks but seen good work from them on TRF and some complaints as well. There are other options as well. Still I would give them a try rather than shipping it to the other side of the world.
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This bracelet is 50 years old and is used daily. I simply can't understand this craziness. On the vintage forum they destroy vintage bracelets daily lol, They jerk out 50 year old Rolex pins to slap some cheap one size fits all pins of suspect origin but their links are tight for a while.

It used to irritate me but then I realized it was making my originals more valuable. :) That oyster sub bracelet shown is perfect, check back with me in 49 years and we'll talk. :)

They are supposed to be "broken in" kids. Learn how Rolex works before starting to destroy stuff, you'll be glad you did. :)
I agree.

I had previously had the bracelet stretch restored on mine, and it’s never quite been the same. It still about a year later has some links that still bind and do not pivot freely about a year later. The rest of them although they do pivot fine they don’t feel as smooth and solid as they did before. The clasp feels a bit off ever since as well. The gaps were not all completely filled in in the links either. It was even worse when I first received it and sent it back once to be further repaired.

Truth be told I think it was just better off with the stretch. Rolex makes a very durable and long lasting bracelet. Unless it’s to the point it’s truly about to break I probably wouldn’t do it or recommend it.

I know a ton of people on this forum love the bracelet restoration services (I believe more for cosmetic reasons than actual function), but unless you have some sentimental reason for wanting to retain that exact bracelet or it’s really worn to the point it’s about to fail I would probably recommend replacement more than these services.

Mine works fine and looks nice but just the overall feel of an original Rolex bracelet versus the restored one, in my opinion it’s no contest.
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