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Chris · 31 August 2021, 04:24 AM

I bought this 1601 yesterday at auction £2500, (approx $3500). Serial no:250xxxx dating it to 1968 i think. My question is, is the second hand, should it be gold or is silver correct? Do you see anything else wrong?TIA

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rmurphy · 31 August 2021, 04:43 AM

Definitely needs to be gold color

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Chris · 31 August 2021, 04:46 AM

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Definitely needs to be gold color

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Thnx

Chris · 31 August 2021, 05:02 AM

Does anyone in UK know where i could get a period relacement gold hand? Thnx

L.K Johnson · 31 August 2021, 05:10 AM

Congrats!!

Nickn · 31 August 2021, 05:38 AM

Pm me I might have one

MorningTundra · 31 August 2021, 05:39 AM

I think you got a good price on that. Looks like it included a bracelet too? A correct hand shouldn’t be hard to find. A good indie watchmaker should be able to source you one when you service it.

miamiclay · 31 August 2021, 05:46 AM

Looks great!
Does 1968 make this a galvanized/gilt dial?

(I only have one gilt, and it’s earlier - idk their dates.)

Dan S · 31 August 2021, 06:54 AM

If we are talking about correctness, I think that the crown should be gold-color and the bracelet should be TT. However, it's more important that you're happy with the watch, so you're not required to worry about these details.

Chris · 31 August 2021, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MorningTundra

I think you got a good price on that. Looks like it included a bracelet too? A correct hand shouldn’t be hard to find. A good indie watchmaker should be able to source you one when you service it.

It came with bracelet dated 1970 and box.

Chris · 1 September 2021, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by miamiclay

Looks great!
Does 1968 make this a galvanized/gilt dial?

(I only have one gilt, and it’s earlier - idk their dates.)

Thnx. Cant wait til it arrives later this week.

Chris · 1 September 2021, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan S

If we are talking about correctness, I think that the crown should be gold-color and the bracelet should be TT. However, it's more important that you're happy with the watch, so you're not required to worry about these details.

Ive spoken to my local independant sevicer and he feels he can get a crown and hand. Just cant wait for it to arrive.

southtexas · 2 September 2021, 01:52 PM

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Ive spoken to my local independant sevicer and he feels he can get a crown and hand. Just cant wait for it to arrive.

Congrats and keep us posted.

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Chris · 4 September 2021, 12:37 AM

Watch arrived today as you can see from the pic all hands are silver so no need to find a replacement.

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miamiclay · 4 September 2021, 02:28 AM

Can you post a sharper pic of just the dial?

Are all three hands, and the markers & coronet on the dial, all white/silver colored? What color is the text above the dial? I guess it could just be odd reflections in the original photo …

Dan S · 4 September 2021, 02:57 AM

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Watch arrived today as you can see from the pic all hands are silver so no need to find a replacement.

Dial furniture too?

Chris · 4 September 2021, 03:00 AM

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Dial furniture too?

They weren't needed from the original pic they look gold but were in fact silver.

Dan S · 4 September 2021, 03:04 AM

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They weren't needed from the original pic they look gold but were in fact silver.

Wow, I was totally fooled by the original photo. Maybe the seller applied a filter.

Chris · 4 September 2021, 04:34 AM

All hands are silver, text and markers gold. I sold an airking to get it just wanted a black dial.

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Dan S · 4 September 2021, 04:47 AM

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All hands are silver, text and markers gold.

Well, that's what I asked, and you said the dial furniture was silver. Anyway, hands and dial furniture (markers and coronet) should match. So if you want to make it correct, you need a new hand-set, new crown, and TT bracelet. On the other hand, if you like the watch as it is, just enjoy it.

Chris · 4 September 2021, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan S

Well, that's what I asked, and you said the dial furniture was silver. Anyway, hands and dial furniture (markers and coronet) should match. So if you want to make it correct, you need a new hand-set.

Sorry if misunderstood what you were asking. May i could change it later.

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Chris · 4 September 2021, 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan S

Well, that's what I asked, and you said the dial furniture was silver. Anyway, hands and dial furniture (markers and coronet) should match. So if you want to make it correct, you need a new hand-set, new crown, and TT bracelet. On the other hand, if you like the watch as it is, just enjoy it.

How much would a new set cost?

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rmurphy · 4 September 2021, 04:52 AM

That’s a damn nice Air King, I think that’s going to be my next pickup.

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Dan S · 4 September 2021, 04:59 AM

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May i could change it later.

Absolutely, enjoy it as it is. You can always change it later if you choose.

Chris · 4 September 2021, 05:03 AM

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That’s a damn nice Air King, I think that’s going to be my next pickup.

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If you can get one, beautiful understated watch. I will miss it.

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Chris · 4 September 2021, 05:05 AM

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Absolutely, enjoy it as it is. You can always change it later if you choose.

I love the watch had a jeweller check the movement he says i got a bargain.

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Nick9 · 4 September 2021, 01:26 PM

It was very common for Rolex dealers to offer replacement dials, hands, bezels etc to people who owned these four-digit watches and might want a new look. So many of them have had these changes, and they are great watches. In my opinion, original condition isn’t as important as whether those of us who own these enjoy the way they ended up.

I think you have a beauty there, and for sure you got a bargain.

Chris · 5 September 2021, 09:20 PM

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It was very common for Rolex dealers to offer replacement dials, hands, bezels etc to people who owned these four-digit watches and might want a new look. So many of them have had these changes, and they are great watches. In my opinion, original condition isn’t as important as whether those of us who own these enjoy the way they ended up.

I think you have a beauty there, and for sure you got a bargain.

I do like the watch and nice hear other people like yourself appreciate it as well. As DanS
suggested a can always change the hands at a later date.

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Oyster Perp · 5 September 2021, 09:58 PM

A true bargain. A T/T Jubilee would really set off, that they are available but wait for one at the right price.

31 August 2021, 04:24 AM	#1
Chris "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: UK Posts: 593	Help with 1601 I bought this 1601 yesterday at auction £2500, (approx $3500). Serial no:250xxxx dating it to 1968 i think. My question is, is the second hand, should it be gold or is silver correct? Do you see anything else wrong?TIA Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk

31 August 2021, 06:54 AM	#9
Dan S 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 6,024	If we are talking about correctness, I think that the crown should be gold-color and the bracelet should be TT. However, it's more important that you're happy with the watch, so you're not required to worry about these details. __________________ @oldwatchdan on IG

31 August 2021, 04:43 AM	#2
rmurphy 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Real Name: Richard Location: Augusta Georgia Watch: 16600 Posts: 1,058	Definitely needs to be gold color Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

31 August 2021, 05:02 AM	#4
Chris "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: UK Posts: 593	Does anyone in UK know where i could get a period relacement gold hand? Thnx

31 August 2021, 05:10 AM	#5
L.K Johnson "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: / Posts: 1,735	Congrats!!

31 August 2021, 05:38 AM	#6
Nickn "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: London Posts: 508	Pm me I might have one

31 August 2021, 05:39 AM	#7
MorningTundra "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Real Name: Morningtundra Location: USA, UK & HKG Posts: 1,038	I think you got a good price on that. Looks like it included a bracelet too? A correct hand shouldn’t be hard to find. A good indie watchmaker should be able to source you one when you service it.

4 September 2021, 12:37 AM	#14
Chris "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: UK Posts: 593	Watch arrived today as you can see from the pic all hands are silver so no need to find a replacement. Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk

4 September 2021, 04:34 AM	#19
Chris "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: UK Posts: 593	All hands are silver, text and markers gold. I sold an airking to get it just wanted a black dial. Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk

4 September 2021, 04:52 AM	#23
rmurphy 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Real Name: Richard Location: Augusta Georgia Watch: 16600 Posts: 1,058	That’s a damn nice Air King, I think that’s going to be my next pickup. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

4 September 2021, 01:26 PM	#27
Nick9 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Ontario Posts: 374	It was very common for Rolex dealers to offer replacement dials, hands, bezels etc to people who owned these four-digit watches and might want a new look. So many of them have had these changes, and they are great watches. In my opinion, original condition isn’t as important as whether those of us who own these enjoy the way they ended up. I think you have a beauty there, and for sure you got a bargain.

5 September 2021, 09:58 PM	#29
Oyster Perp "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: UK Posts: 145	A true bargain. A T/T Jubilee would really set off, that they are available but wait for one at the right price.

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