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Old 1 August 2014, 01:49 PM   #1
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The J in DateJust

Does the second pic here look right with the unusual J in DateJust? I have only seen them with the crossed J like in the first pic. I know there are all kinds of font variations with Rolex, but this second one (from around 1967) looks like it might have rubbed off somehow.

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Old 1 August 2014, 04:00 PM   #2
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Does the second pic here look right with the unusual J in DateJust? I have only seen them with the crossed J like in the first pic. I know there are all kinds of font variations with Rolex, but this second one (from around 1967) looks like it might have rubbed off somehow.



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Hi Adam, can be ok on 6605 datejust mainly seen on the first style dial with raised Rolex applied steel logo photo 1 dial ( checkerboard bezel btw) not my pic. but can be on normal printed 6605 also see pic 2 can you show me the coronet style.

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Old 1 August 2014, 04:08 PM   #3
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Could just be the photo (and my phone) but the R O L (in Rolex of course) all look funky to me in Adams 2nd photo.

Edit: and the E in DJ
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Old 1 August 2014, 04:27 PM   #4
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Here's the whole dial. It's a 1603.
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Old 1 August 2014, 04:38 PM   #5
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Great thread! Never knew about this
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Old 2 August 2014, 04:04 PM   #6
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So what's the verdict?
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Old 2 August 2014, 05:02 PM   #7
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Seen a few more like it online in the last few days, so probably just another dial variation. Perhaps one day it will become the highly desirable, very rare 'straight J' !
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Seen a few more like it online in the last few days, so probably just another dial variation. Perhaps one day it will become the highly desirable, very rare 'straight J' !
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Here's the whole dial. It's a 1603.
I am bringing this post back from the dead. I have recently seen some pictures online of Datejust 1601's with the J in Datejust missing the Horizontal line like the in this original post. Can anyone confirm if this J is correct for a mid-1970's pie pan dial original to a 1601, or are these replacement or aftermarket dials?
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Old 10 September 2021, 07:18 AM   #10
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I am bringing this post back from the dead. I have recently seen some pictures online of Datejust 1601's with the J in Datejust missing the Horizontal line like the in this original post. Can anyone confirm if this J is correct for a mid-1970's pie pan dial original to a 1601, or are these replacement or aftermarket dials?
It's honestly really hard to tell without looking at the whole watch. I've seen examples with the sans-serif J but definitely not as common.
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Old 10 September 2021, 07:26 AM   #11
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Here is an image borrowed from the Internet of a dial with the J in question



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Old 10 September 2021, 09:26 AM   #12
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I'd forgotten about this thread. I eventually bought the watch shown in post #4 with full set box/papers/tags, etc (Q4 1966) and gave it to me wife, who still loves it. Below is a clearer shot of the dial only, as well as a pic of the latest model I found back then with the "straight J", from Q4, 1970, which many will recognise as being from HQ Milton.
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Old 10 September 2021, 09:54 AM   #13
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I'd forgotten about this thread. I eventually bought the watch shown in post #4 with full set box/papers/tags, etc (Q4 1966) and gave it to me wife, who still loves it. Below is a clearer shot of the dial only, as well as a pic of the latest model I found back then with the "straight J", from Q4, 1970, which many will recognise as being from HQ Milton.
Cool Adam, thanks for chiming in. I hope you don't mind that I resurrected your old post, but I found it an interesting observation.
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I'd forgotten about this thread. I eventually bought the watch shown in post #4 with full set box/papers/tags, etc (Q4 1966) and gave it to me wife, who still loves it. Below is a clearer shot of the dial only, as well as a pic of the latest model I found back then with the "straight J", from Q4, 1970, which many will recognise as being from HQ Milton.
BTW, I really like that doorstop dial. Does anyone know when the doorstop dial stopped being offered on the 1601? I see many from the mid-1960's, but not much beyond that. Was the doorstop dial offered on the '70's Datejust?
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Old 10 September 2021, 09:57 AM   #15
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Cool Adam, thanks for chiming in. I hope you don't mind that I resurrected your old post, but I found it an interesting observation.
Sure, no problem. Resurrecting old posts is fine if there's a good reason
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Sure, no problem. Resurrecting old posts is fine if there's a good reason
Thanks, cheers!

Do you know any history of the doorstop dial?
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Thanks, cheers!

Do you know any history of the doorstop dial?
Not really, I only know they are a lot less common than, for example, the HQ Milton one above.
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Thanks. I should probably start a new post with this question.
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There's a bit of info here, though not for the 1601 exactly: https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=702179

edit: at second glance that thread is pretty useless, sorry.
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Thanks Adam.
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Returning to the original Q re J with no crossing

I have a 1603 with this type of dial, caseback 1 69, 2.15x serial, so have looked into this

These dials crop up from late 60s to early 70s mainly, on 1601 and 1603.

Searching HQMilton archives and other sources will turn up many examples


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Returning to the original Q re J with no crossing

I have a 1603 with this type of dial, caseback 1 69, 2.15x serial, so have looked into this

These dials crop up from late 60s to early 70s mainly, on 1601 and 1603.

Searching HQMilton archives and other sources will turn up many examples


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Yes, I have seen a few online and on HQ Milton. I appreciate your input. It was a curious finding when I first saw it, but I am seeing a few now that I look for them. I had never seen that before.
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Hey Adam

Here’s my all original 1601 circa 1970 dial for comparison….are you asking for authenticy?

As Padi might say…another one of the many various font changes over the years by Rolex
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….are you asking for authenticy?
I was, seven years ago, but I'm all good now thanks. Bought the watch, as mentioned above in post #12
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I was, seven years ago, but I'm all good now thanks. Bought the watch, as mentioned above in post #12
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