Speedmaster Moonwatch Professional Moon Phase Chronograph

[wilsonpepper]

HI Guys and Gals:

Can anyone please tell me what is "special" about this watch?

Additionally, I'm trying to understand why this watch sells in the secondary market for $17k to $19k.

I noted that on the official Omega website, it still shows the watch, but also says "Unavailable".

Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Professional Moonphase 'Aventurine Dial' 311.30.44.32.01.001

Thanks in advance for any information possible....

please see photo

[wilsonpepper]

https://www.omegawatches.com/en-us/w...31130443201001

AND

https://www.omegawatches.com/en-us/w...31130443201001

[wilsonpepper]

Well, since nobody else can answer the question, here are the details:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3coMR0PXGA8


Thanks Omega "experts" for your non-response

[AEC]

Originally Posted by wilsonpepper

Well, since nobody else can answer the question, here are the details:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3coMR0PXGA8


Thanks Omega "experts" for your non-response

How to win friends and influence people?

[steeevvvooo]

Well for a start it was interesting enough for you to start a thread about it! :)

I like it, some days, and some days I think it's too big and blingy (photo below shows it can be subtle though even in the harsh light of the AD). Having a dial resembling the night sky on a speedmaster appeals though to be honest, similar to how a meteorite dial also appeals to the space connection.

I have never owned but have tried on.

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[wilsonpepper]

Thank you !

I also find it very interesting that it's considered "rare" (given my purchase opportunity and price).

I wonder if Omega makes the production numbers public? If so, I cannot find that info.

As far as winning friends and influencing people.....I put that in to get a response, and got 2!

SyOps works on this blog !

:)

[texasmade]

Production numbers are never really disclosed except for limited editions with a set number. The Speedmaster FOIS is numbered but no one knows the final number produced.

[1665fan]

44.25mm……no thanks

[C0d]

Originally Posted by 1665fan

44.25mm……no thanks

I missed the part where it was being offered to you.

[stevedssd]

I did once own a Speedmaster Moon Phase 35765000, so not the same model but with the same potential drawbacks. The date and moon phase settings are adjusted by pushing in tabs on the left side of the case, with a tool. This can be a bit fiddly which is fine if you are then prepared to manually wind the watch every day or spend quite a lot more time than normal for a Speedmaster re-setting it before wearing it. If this is a watch that will be worn and wound regularly and you have wrists that can carry off the large case size, then the stunning dial makes this a worthy consideration. If it is a watch in a collection that gets occasional wear, then like me you may end up continually passing it over for another watch that can be set quickly........and then selling it. Personally, if I were to get another moonphase I'd get a Co-Axial chronometer....... I think they offer a lot for the money.

[wilsonpepper]

Stevedssd:

I feel the same way about this watch.

For many reasons, I wonder why you can purchase this watch at the AD for say $9,000, and it shows up on the secondary market with an "asking price" of $18,900??

Of course "asking price" is not necessarily the "actual sales price", but even if the secondary market brings $16,000 dollars for this watch, I just don't understand the price bump.

Wonder out loud if it is a "rare" model with increasing valuations over time, kinda like a Rolex Daytona?

[Muskrat]

Originally Posted by stevedssd

I did once own a Speedmaster Moon Phase 35765000, so not the same model but with the same potential drawbacks. The date and moon phase settings are adjusted by pushing in tabs on the left side of the case, with a tool. This can be a bit fiddly which is fine if you are then prepared to manually wind the watch every day or spend quite a lot more time than normal for a Speedmaster re-setting it before wearing it. If this is a watch that will be worn and wound regularly and you have wrists that can carry off the large case size, then the stunning dial makes this a worthy consideration. If it is a watch in a collection that gets occasional wear, then like me you may end up continually passing it over for another watch that can be set quickly........and then selling it. Personally, if I were to get another moonphase I'd get a Co-Axial chronometer....... I think they offer a lot for the money.

I have the 3330.20.00 moon phase and leave it on a winder for this reason.

[stevedssd]

Originally Posted by Muskrat

I have the 3330.20.00 moon phase and leave it on a winder for this reason.

I had to look that reference up, very nice and I agree for a moonphase complication, automatic rather than hand wound would be my preference.....unless I was wearing and winding it every day.

[steeevvvooo]

Originally Posted by wilsonpepper

Stevedssd:

I feel the same way about this watch.

For many reasons, I wonder why you can purchase this watch at the AD for say $9,000, and it shows up on the secondary market with an "asking price" of $18,900??

This model is discontinued so you won't find one in an AD at $9,000 (unless you stumble across NOS). They are selling (very recently) in the UK for about £10k, so perhaps the US prices are a bit more punchy if you are seeing them at $18k?

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[wilsonpepper]

Hi Steeevvvooo:

The watch I am looking at is a brand new 2021.

Retail USD = $9320.00 less 10% AD discount = $8388.

Can you buy this watch in the UK ?

I am purchasing outside of the US (no tax).

Grey Market "average" ask:

Used = $15,000 ($12k-$14k without metal bracelet)

New (any year of manufacture) = $16.7 to $18,900

As a manual watch, I just dont see why such a steep markup in the grey market.

Does anyone know if this watch is in "high demand" ? Just cannot figure out why such a high price on grey market. . . . .


Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Professional Moonphase 'Aventurine Dial' 311.30.44.32.01.001

[steeevvvooo]

Originally Posted by wilsonpepper

Hi Steeevvvooo:

The watch I am looking at is a brand new 2021.

Retail USD = $9320.00 less 10% AD discount = $8388.

Can you buy this watch in the UK ?

I am purchasing outside of the US (no tax).

Grey Market "average" ask:

Used = $15,000 ($12k-$14k without metal bracelet)

New (any year of manufacture) = $16.7 to $18,900

As a manual watch, I just dont see why such a steep markup in the grey market.

Does anyone know if this watch is in "high demand" ? Just cannot figure out why such a high price on grey market. . . . .


Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Professional Moonphase 'Aventurine Dial' 311.30.44.32.01.001

It's discontinued so unless an AD happens to have one lying around or in the safe they are not available new at list price.

If you are able to buy new from an authorised dealer (discount being offered seems fishy though given grey pricing...) you get to try the watch for "free" and decide if you like it as you would be able to sell on at a small gain I think. They are not "popular" though so $17-18k asking price is high and I would expect a grey to buy these for maybe $12k if you are lucky given they mayh sit in inventory for a while. I know of a couple of UK watches that have sold in the last few months for about £10k from grey dealers, as I was watching them myself.

Are you buying from an AD abroad or grey/private seller? Bear in mind you will likely have to pay tax and duties if purchasing abroad and bringing into the US so check that out too.

Good luck!

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[zengineer]

Wow, a watch that has a street price significantly higher than dealer MSRP. That only happens with every single model in the Rolex lineup...

There is no explaining why people pay what they pay online what they like. You can buy it for $9000. The only questions you should worry about is whether you like it and it's worth $9000 to you.

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[wilsonpepper]

Originally Posted by steeevvvooo

Are you buying from an AD abroad or grey/private seller?

A. Buying from Omega AD abroad, no tax. 10% discount, watch is brand new.

[wilsonpepper]

Originally Posted by zengineer

Wow, a watch that has a street price significantly higher than dealer MSRP. That only happens with every single model in the Rolex lineup...

I get it for sure Zengineer ! And I certainly understand the Rolex mark-up, just cannot figure out why this particular model Omega carries a similar markup as a new GMT would.

Many of the ads online tout, "Rare". It's so "rare" that until last week, I had never heard of it !!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3coMR0PXGA8

[steeevvvooo]

Originally Posted by wilsonpepper

A. Buying from Omega AD abroad, no tax. 10% discount, watch is brand new.

If I could find one below list price, I would buy it. Even with import duties it will be a good price. Worst case if you don't enjoy it, it should be easy to move on with no loss if you get it for that price.

Personally, I think you will like it and keep a great watch :)

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[amphr1]

Anyone else who also owns an Omega where it uses that sub-dial with the crescent moon needle to tell the day of the month? My eyes is just never good enough to see it properly. it's totally useless. It's like the opposite of Rolex cyclops.

[wilsonpepper]

Too funny, I can't even see the date with the cyclops !