5402 at the park!

[agsstructures]

While i love the modern variants, there is just something about the older Jumbo's that I love! Extremely comfortable and the old school font is charming.

Happy Sunday all!

[Michael1968]

Nice one

[m3tek44]

Classic! Love it.

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[In-N-Out]

Wow amazing patina. Is that an A serial?

[APhound]

Nice watch


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[dh1]

Beautiful! I always love the original 5402 "Swiss only" AP @ 6 dial.

[Vipes]

Looks great, bro!

[Armis]

The date wheel font really stands out and gives it character.

[agsstructures]

Originally Posted by In-N-Out

Wow amazing patina. Is that an A serial?

Thanks! B serial, inquired with AP about a COA and it’s a 10+ month process and $2700!!

[Steele]

Originally Posted by agsstructures

Thanks! B serial, inquired with AP about a COA and it’s a 10+ month process and $2700!!

I just had it done on my 25820PT and it took like max 8 weeks

[Golden Palomino]

Originally Posted by Armis

The date wheel font really stands out and gives it character.

I agree! The numeral 4 as seen in the photo from OP is especially delightful on these.


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[agsstructures]

Originally Posted by Steele

I just had it done on my 25820PT and it took like max 8 weeks

I wish it was this long. They revamped anything related to the 5402. It takes forever and pricing is stupid.

[In-N-Out]

Originally Posted by agsstructures

Thanks! B serial, inquired with AP about a COA and it’s a 10+ month process and $2700!!

man that's an amazing piece. any reason why you went for a B serial? Any huge difference (besides pricing) on A, B, C, D serials?

I'd like a 5402 one day, but they have obviously been quite cost prohibitive for many in the last few years. I'm not sure where to start my research and which serial to purchase to have the right balance between value/price and historical prestige (like an A serial)

[agsstructures]

Originally Posted by In-N-Out

man that's an amazing piece. any reason why you went for a B serial? Any huge difference (besides pricing) on A, B, C, D serials?

I'd like a 5402 one day, but they have obviously been quite cost prohibitive for many in the last few years. I'm not sure where to start my research and which serial to purchase to have the right balance between value/price and historical prestige (like an A serial)

Thanks my friend, cost and condition drove my decision. I had a D series with the AP logo at 12pm. I sold it when the B popped up.

AP pricing has taken a hit and continues to fall. While still pricey, they have come down significantly from the peak.

[dh1]

Originally Posted by In-N-Out

Any huge difference (besides pricing) on A, B, C, D serials?

As agsstructures mentioned, there are two 5402 dials. There's the "AP @ 6" dial from the first design and the "AP @ 12" modified dial design (created after the hands would sometimes crash into the applied AP logo and get stuck). A & B series are going to have the first dial, C is a mix and D probably mostly has the later dial. The original dial layout is considered more desirable.

But that's not the whole story since many watches of that age have had their original dials replaced. If an A series had a dial was replaced in the 80s it was probably fitted with an AP @ 12 dial. Later they started making service dials in the original layout (AP @ 6), but with "Swiss Made" at the bottom instead of "Swiss".

So a C series with an original "Swiss" only dial might fetch more than an A series with a replaced dial, etc. Technically an original "AP @ 12" dial with "Swiss" only is the rarest original steel dial, although the dial layout itself is considered less desirable than AP @ 6 so the pricing doesn't necessarily reflect the scarcity.

As far as other differences, those are much more obscure. Some 5402 clasps say "AP" while others say "Audemars Piguet". The original boxes had some variation (metal vs. non-metal), etc. The original crowns were unsigned.

[agsstructures]

Originally Posted by dh1

As agsstructures mentioned, there are two 5402 dials. There's the "AP @ 6" dial from the first design and the "AP @ 12" modified dial design (created after the hands would sometimes crash into the applied AP logo and get stuck). A & B series are going to have the first dial, C is a mix and D probably mostly has the later dial. The original dial layout is considered more desirable.

But that's not the whole story since many watches of that age have had their original dials replaced. If an A series had a dial was replaced in the 80s it was probably fitted with an AP @ 12 dial. Later they started making service dials in the original layout (AP @ 6), but with "Swiss Made" at the bottom instead of "Swiss".

So a C series with an original "Swiss" only dial might fetch more than an A series with a replaced dial, etc. Technically an original "AP @ 12" dial with "Swiss" only is the rarest original steel dial, although the dial layout itself is considered less desirable than AP @ 6 so the pricing doesn't necessarily reflect the scarcity.

As far as other differences, those are much more obscure. Some 5402 clasps say "AP" while others say "Audemars Piguet". The original boxes had some variation (metal vs. non-metal), etc. The original crowns were unsigned.

Great summary, my friend