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Old 14 March 2024, 04:29 PM   #1
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Tudor prince Oysterdate jumbo

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Wondering if anyone can help indentify a year and an estimation on this Tudor jumbo Oysterdate. it has a gold cap so cant see the serial number but it has a 2824-1 movement.
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Old 14 March 2024, 06:47 PM   #2
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Old 14 March 2024, 07:45 PM   #3
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Not seen a Jumbo dial or case like that tbh .. Always here, linesiders and anyone else have a view ?
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Old 14 March 2024, 09:00 PM   #4
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Not seen a Jumbo dial or case like that tbh .. Always here, linesiders and anyone else have a view ?
there's the same dial but I haven't seen another gold one. this watch has been gold capped but maybe the hands etc are also
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Old 14 March 2024, 09:05 PM   #5
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there's the same dial but I haven't seen another gold one. this watch has been gold capped but maybe the hands etc are also
That's the std dial of most Jumbos - look where the 1/5th of a second ring (like a chapter ring) is.... much, much further in (or out from dial edge) on OP's ....
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Old 14 March 2024, 10:59 PM   #6
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That's the std dial of most Jumbos - look where the 1/5th of a second ring (like a chapter ring) is.... much, much further in (or out from dial edge) on OP's ....
Im just thinking that could be where I replaced a domed plexiglass with a flat sapphire crystal, gives that illusion maybe
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I don't think so. The font shape and spacings of all the text (especially the bottom half) I have not seen before on any Jumbo.

Also the length of the second markers are usually circa 2.5 times the length of 1/5 second markers length, as Adampars kind photos show.

On yours it's circa 3.25 the length

The gold capped cases should show the serial number and model number between the lugs - I have a couple.

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its doing my head in not being able to see the serial. I've not seen these faked before it docent feel fake but vintage is hard to tell. the only things the throw me of is that I have only seen a couple of these with a 2824-1 movement
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tend to agree with Paul. The dial doesn't look right - could be a re-dial?
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I also found this one with exact same dial look. it seems these veried a lot. tudor vintages are a real headache
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I was wondering would the gold capping have been done after factory or by Tudor themselves
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Thanks yes here :

https://fromtimetotimes.com/products/416

I've looked over it and all their stock and they have a few redials and even perhaps re-cased ones.

Other than the dial, I've not seen this profile of the case I've had about 15-20 Jumbos but I'm no expert on this model.

Look at the top shape (appears wider/thicker/more bulbous) and side profile of the case on all the C24 ones you can....to do that search 'Tudor Jumbo' and they all appear different to this.

They taper thinner towards lug holes....this case 7/11 photo, gets fatter for a bit towards lug holes....see here as typical example to compare photo 5/16 is its side profile :

Tudor Prince Oysterdate
£2,302
https://chrono24.app/tudor/tudor-pri...GB&SETCURR=GBP

Ref Gold Capping done by Tudor at factory btw.
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The fact you can’t see a serial might suggest a worn out and unidentifiable case was good-capped and dial and hands decorated at the same time.
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I've looked over it and all their stock and they have a few redials and even perhaps re-cased ones.

Other than the dial, I've not seen this profile of the case I've had about 15-20 Jumbos but I'm no expert on this model.

Look at the top shape (appears wider/thicker/more bulbous) and side profile of the case on all the C24 ones you can....to do that search 'Tudor Jumbo' and they all appear different to this.

They taper thinner towards lug holes....this case 7/11 photo, gets fatter for a bit towards lug holes....see here as typical example to compare photo 5/16 is its side profile :

Tudor Prince Oysterdate
£2,302


Ref Gold Capping done by Tudor at factory btw.

yes I have no dealer here to take it to who specialise in vintage I will have to wait until I go back to the uk next year. the case could be the gold its very thick as its chipped and still not showing any metal underneath and when I look in person it looks better than the photos
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