Offered an Ed White if buying a white Speedy.

[IS2000]

I recently visited my local Omega boutique to see a white Speedmaster. There were a couple of them available. I liked the watch but didn't love it, so I told the SA I would love to have the 321 Ed White instead if one is available. She immediately told me there was one in stock if I was willing to bundled up with a white Speedy or any $5K or above watches in store. I didn’t need two watches so I declined, but do you guys think this was a good deal for getting a 321? I was thinking down the road one might be available without having to buy two watches or waiting for over a year.

[djona]

Not a bad proposition but I probably would’ve declined as well.

[Cru Jones]

While the transparency is refreshing, this is supposed to be a luxury experience, not the equivalent of shopping at a used car lot. I personally wouldn’t go back to that AD.

[AEC]

Never did I imagine the wristwatch business would become a racket.

[1William]

Why not find another watch that you like that meets the 5k the AD needs. I buy enough and Omega has enough variations on models that it would be easy.

[IS2000]

Originally Posted by 1William

Why not find another watch that you like that meets the 5k the AD needs. I buy enough and Omega has enough variations on models that it would be easy.

A white Speedmaster was probably the watch I liked the most from what they had in store. I tried a blue 007 Seamaster 300m but it wore a little too big for me.

[brandrea]

The answer is it depends…

I agree with Cru, the whole “buy one get the one you really want” takes away from the buying experience. However, by declining, you’ve pretty much sealed your fate with the OB and white dial Speedy is one that you could probably have sold easily for a minimal loss.

So yes, I agree with your position unless you REALLY want the 321

[ratty]

I would have asked for a Snoopy as well.

[gnuyork]

I wouldn't play that game, personally. Not with Rolex, and certainly not with Omega. The fact that people are willing to do this, only encourages this further... but each to their own I suppose.

[omar-rye]

Originally Posted by 1William

Why not find another watch that you like that meets the 5k the AD needs. I buy enough and Omega has enough variations on models that it would be easy.

Maybe because we’re not all filthy rich like you

[njlam]

Buying the new white speedy to get the Ed White?

I would have done it in a second.

[klenboy]

I think that's a great deal! I'd love both the White Speedy and 321.

[Topspin14m]

You can get an Ed White for about MSRP secondhand now. If you don't want two watches, you made the right decision.

[agsstructures]

Originally Posted by Topspin14m

You can get an Ed White for about MSRP secondhand now. If you don't want two watches, you made the right decision.

This

[IS2000]

Originally Posted by Topspin14m

You can get an Ed White for about MSRP secondhand now. If you don't want two watches, you made the right decision.

I recently saw an unworn Ed White going for 5% over msrp at my local watch dealer. However buying one from the boutique is a much better experience over here. So I was hoping as the watch market has softened. Maybe one will be available sooner or later without these buying conditions. I could still remember a year ago when people needed to spend like $25K on watches to get an Ed White.

[Topspin14m]

Originally Posted by IS2000

I recently saw an unworn Ed White going for 5% over msrp at my local watch dealer. However buying one from the boutique is a much better experience over here. So I was hoping as the watch market has softened. Maybe one will be available sooner or later without these buying conditions. I could still remember a year ago when people needed to spend like $25K on watches to get an Ed White.

Soon they’ll be discounting them.


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[usmc_k9_vet]

That seems very strange to me. Why are they trying to bundle two pretty in demand references? We’ve seen bundling schemes with like a ladies Rolex to get an in demand men’s sports model, but they could easily sell both the 321 and white dial Speedy on their own, both at MSRP, so why try to bundle them? Seems like they likely have multiple people who want the 321, unless times have changed that much, as I thought there was more demand for that model than there is supply. They had one just sitting there in allocated?

I think this is weird, however I may have bought the bundle because I really like both of those and they’d be amazing to add to my Speedy collection.


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[Topspin14m]

Originally Posted by usmc_k9_vet

That seems very strange to me. Why are they trying to bundle two pretty in demand references? We’ve seen bundling schemes with like a ladies Rolex to get an in demand men’s sports model, but they could easily sell both the 321 and white dial Speedy on their own, both at MSRP, so why try to bundle them? Seems like they likely have multiple people who want the 321, unless times have changed that much, as I thought there was more demand for that model than there is supply. They had one just sitting there in allocated?

I think this is weird, however I may have bought the bundle because I really like both of those and they’d be amazing to add to my Speedy collection.


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Because neither is really an over list watch and they want to make 35-40% of ~$23.5k instead of ~$15.5k. And the resulting commission.


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[Nova1]

Call back in 2 weeks and see if it’s still there and if they’re willing to sell outright. If not, I’d never go back.

[IS2000]

Originally Posted by usmc_k9_vet

That seems very strange to me. Why are they trying to bundle two pretty in demand references? We’ve seen bundling schemes with like a ladies Rolex to get an in demand men’s sports model, but they could easily sell both the 321 and white dial Speedy on their own, both at MSRP, so why try to bundle them? Seems like they likely have multiple people who want the 321, unless times have changed that much, as I thought there was more demand for that model than there is supply. They had one just sitting there in allocated?

I think this is weird, however I may have bought the bundle because I really like both of those and they’d be amazing to add to my Speedy collection.


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For some reasons, the white Speedmasters are not popular watches here. They are sitting on the display case with no buyers. There are also a few of them selling online with some discount (probably from those who bought them to get the watches they wanted.)
I went to the same boutique today but talked to a different SA. She stated that the Omega regional office is the one deciding the allocations for hard to find pieces based on spending histories of the customers. That was why the first SA offered me and Ed White if I was willing to buy anything in store above $5K.

[AEC]

Originally Posted by Topspin14m

Soon they’ll be discounting them.


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It doesn't make business sense to discontinue Caliber 321. Investing in the capability to manufacture the caliber in-house implies Omega will continue offering the caliber. It may not be in the exact reference currently offered, but I believe Caliber 321 will be in some form of a Speedmaster for the foreseeable future.

[salnuaimi]

what a good deal !!

[Watchflair]

Seems perfectly reasonable to me.

I also respect the transparency.


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[EEpro]

I'd do it.

[ratty]

Originally Posted by AEC

It doesn't make business sense to discontinue Caliber 321. Investing in the capability to manufacture the caliber in-house implies Omega will continue offering the caliber. It may not be in the exact reference currently offered, but I believe Caliber 321 will be in some form of a Speedmaster for the foreseeable future.

I agree and certainly hope so.

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by AEC

It doesn't make business sense to discontinue Caliber 321. Investing in the capability to manufacture the caliber in-house implies Omega will continue offering the caliber. It may not be in the exact reference currently offered, but I believe Caliber 321 will be in some form of a Speedmaster for the foreseeable future.

100%

[ratty]

Originally Posted by IS2000

I recently visited my local Omega boutique to see a white Speedmaster. There were a couple of them available. I liked the watch but didn't love it, so I told the SA I would love to have the 321 Ed White instead if one is available. She immediately told me there was one in stock if I was willing to bundled up with a white Speedy or any $5K or above watches in store. I didn’t need two watches so I declined, but do you guys think this was a good deal for getting a 321? I was thinking down the road one might be available without having to buy two watches or waiting for over a year.

As others have said, if you want the 321 and a white Speedy, this is possibly a good way to get them, but if you just want the 321, it's probably not such a good deal.

I personally have no regrets about buying my 321 but I don't know how much above the retail price I would pay for one.

[ratty]

Originally Posted by AEC

It doesn't make business sense to discontinue Caliber 321. Investing in the capability to manufacture the caliber in-house implies Omega will continue offering the caliber. It may not be in the exact reference currently offered, but I believe Caliber 321 will be in some form of a Speedmaster for the foreseeable future.

I still wonder if Omega will remake the first Speedmaster worn on the moon which had the professional case and the 321 movement in it. Perhaps this is a possibility to replace the current 321 model?

Bearing in mind that this would look VERY similar to the current 'standard' Moonwatch there would probably be only a very limited number of customers for such a watch, but I certainly would be interested in one.

[sycopupy]

Thar was bogus. I would only do it IF there was something else that I actually wanted and would have eventually bought. I hate these kind of dealer games.

[AEC]

Originally Posted by ratty

I still wonder if Omega will remake the first Speedmaster worn on the moon which had the professional case and the 321 movement in it. Perhaps this is a possibility to replace the current 321 model?

Bearing in mind that this would look VERY similar to the current 'standard' Moonwatch there would probably be only a very limited number of customers for such a watch, but I certainly would be interested in one.

Yeah, this is how I'm thinking of it, too . I would love a re-do of Reference 145.012 or 105.012

I have a milestone wedding anniversary coming up in a couple of years and my better half is going to ask me for a short list of watches, so I'll be keen to see how this plays out :-)