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The marketing prowess of Rolex is often over exaggerated on TRF. If you don’t have great products backing it up, marketing becomes a lot more challenging and inconsequential. In order to run a successful business, you have to be good at EVERYTHING. You can’t just rely on marketing. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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I’ve had a couple bad experiences with hiring people from Harvard. Plus, I think Ivy League schools have lost their luster over the last decade or so. But I do agree that Rolex is the apex watch brand. I would just use a different analogy than Harvard. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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And to run a successful business, you have to be good at everything? McDonald's Corp is a pretty damn succesful company. But by no means are their food products the "best". But what makes them great is also their marketing. Convincing their consumers to buy their crappy products. And tons of consumers are doing so. Albeit Rolex is a great marketing machine and a highly successful company. But by no means are their watches the "best" ever. I am not going to get too much into it. But i've handled a few GMTs and Subs during my time, where the bezels were often misaligned by a smig. If you're going to say Rolex is the KING, quality control issues shouldn't be one of them. |
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I’m not saying they don’t have great marketing. I’m saying you still have to have great products backing them up. Great marketing is just an ingredient in the overall recipe that makes Rolex special. Rolex has defects like every company does, but their heritage of producing great products overtime speaks for itself. Btw, egg McMuffins are a great product. Love those things… Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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'only great marketing is needed to make a company successful' -- Hans Wilsdorf
How true.
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Exactly. The Rolex marketing miracle is built on sand.
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Part of Rolex's attractiveness used to be owning one was aspirational.
Now with the crazy/disrespectful AD games, this could change things. I know it has for me.
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As you say, it's all well and good having the masterplan in the marketing department, but if your product is lacklustre, everyone sees through it, especially today! |
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With the rise of smart watches the smartest thing these companies can do it push up-market. There's no money in the mid-low range mechanical watch market anymore. Go to an airport sometime and look around. 90% of everyone you see will have on either a smart watch or no watch on. All these companies are fighting for that 10% that values upper segment luxury. You don't see a lot of Movado, Hamilton, Oris, Tissot, etc. watches being worn anymore.
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Appreciate your being open to diverse points of view. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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While there are watches with finer finishes, more exclusive designs, and more intricate movements, no brand brings together all the following qualities as seamlessly as Rolex: timeless design, simple yet reliable in-house movements, excellent build quality and finish, slim profiles, beautifully crafted and comfortable bracelets, and waterproof durability for daily wear. In my opinion, there's no better brand than Rolex.
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“Always” doesn’t exist. Rolex, just like everyone else can quickly be back to where they were several times before when interest goes away. And Rolex in particular caters to a very specific market segment right now - and that can easily can come and bite them.
The way potential customers are treated - and the focus on bling and relatively simple and solid watches as jewelry could become an issue in the long run. |
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I worked at Microsoft in the day... Our VP would tell us - "We are the best because we are the smartest people in the world." Wrong message. Should have been saying - work hard, there are a lot of hungry companies ready to eat our lunch. I'm sure Rolex marketing people are very smart but they are not special, they were born on 3rd base and have been gifted a great brand. I would be worried and always looking in the rear view mirror. Things can change overnight. SMH about the Microsoft problems today - that's certainly not good for the brand. Microsoft went from King to now a profitable follower.
I think Rolex plays a dangerous game. Walking into a store and not being able to buy the product is very strange for a any sort of brand. I was at my AD a couple of weeks ago trying on some of the "display only" models. The sales woman could not have been more bored with me. Then I strolled over to the Panerai and Tudor displays and she turned into a different person. I had never really considered Panerai. I was very interested. Still researching the heck out of them. I will probably pick up one or two in the next few months. Which you can buy same day. Now if I could have purchased a Rolex that day I probably would have never looked at Panerai. |
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you're just falling into the hype that Rolex's marketing team had created. There are tons of brands that are equally as good as our beloved Rolex. But fanboys will never admit to it. I'd put up Grand Seiko as one brand that is up there with Rolex. Probably better too. |
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Tons? lol Perfect example of how people over-exaggerate Rolex’s marketing team. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Tudor, Omega, Grand Seiko, IWC, Zenith, how many do you want?
This idea that Rolex is the pinnacle is ridiculous. Rolex make mid-tier quality watches and have excellent marketing - most of which is based on embellishment of the facts, if you bother to look into it.
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I love Tudor and Omega, no doubt. But I think you’re pushing things a little there. People aren’t buying what you’re selling. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Think what you like, I'm not selling anything and if you're ever in a cult, then you'll never know it. Ignorance is bliss, they say.
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It's definitely a cult when you close your mind to the rest of horology, and just carry on drinking the Kool-Aid, is it not?
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Who’s closed their mind to the rest of horology? Certainly not me. I can still love other brands but prefer Rolex. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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