Call from AP and not sure whether to accept

[VogelPhoenix]

Originally Posted by codecow

I think you should savor the journey and begin here with the diver. Next you can maybe get a code chrono. That sounds fun!

I'll just leave this here, for everyone hatin' on the diver (not my watch, not my photo):

[ajw45]

Originally Posted by VogelPhoenix

If you say so. 120h reserve is cool. Finishing looks fine for what it is, but not really blowing me away. Not feeling that center screw in the rotor.

Internet sucks for this kind of thing, you don't have to take my word for it, look at both in person and it's no contest for the movement, the AP rotor does look better than the standard model FF but there are plenty of FF editions with nice rotors as well. AP spends more time finishing the things you see most, BP a little more inside out, depends on what you value. Dial, hand, and marker finishing is equal between the two. Both have hand finished cases but the AP case is more complex with the polished bezel, bolts, and bevels so it takes more time. On the flip side, the BP movement is more complex and hand finished vs the AP vs the AP which is simpler and entirely machine finished. Not saying one is better than the other, just saying the AP diver is not THE only highly finished diver.

[VogelPhoenix]

Originally Posted by ajw45

Internet sucks for this kind of thing, you don't have to take my word for it, look at both in person and it's no contest for the movement, the AP rotor does look better than the standard model FF but there are plenty of FF editions with nice rotors as well. AP spends more time finishing the things you see most, BP a little more inside out, depends on what you value. Dial, hand, and marker finishing is equal between the two. Both have hand finished cases but the AP case is more complex with the polished bezel, bolts, and bevels so it takes more time. On the flip side, the BP movement is more complex and hand finished vs the AP vs the AP which is simpler and entirely machine finished. Not saying one is better than the other, just saying the AP diver is not THE only highly finished diver.

Fair enough. My main gripe with the FF is that I can't get any of the very nice (and reasonably sized) limited editions. Haven't tried the newer Ti 42mm models yet.

[codecow]

Originally Posted by VogelPhoenix

I'll just leave this here, for everyone hatin' on the diver (not my watch, not my photo):

I have the OG ceramic diver, I was just having a bit of a laugh.

[VogelPhoenix]

Originally Posted by codecow

I have the OG ceramic diver, I was just having a bit of a laugh.

I have been waiting for a re-edition of CE diver for years. Disappointed it didn't happen for the ROO 30th.

[Gandor]

Originally Posted by VogelPhoenix

I'll just leave this here, for everyone hatin' on the diver (not my watch, not my photo):

Anyone know if this is the quick change bracelet from the 42mm beast or the 15710 bar and screw style bracelet?

[VogelPhoenix]

Originally Posted by Gandor

Anyone know if this is the quick change bracelet from the 42mm beast or the 15710 bar and screw style bracelet?

My understanding was that the one in the picture has the old bracelet w/o quick change. I tried fitting the quick-change bracelet to the diver together with the watchmaker in one of the Geneva boutiques - without a lot of effort, he could get 3 of the 4 plots to latch. Will try again once I acquire a diver...

[kaiserphoenix]

Originally Posted by Gandor

Find me another 300m dive watch with even comparable finishing? Maybe the JLC master compressor, but even then I put the 15720 higher.

Uhm….hello Fifty fathoms. Not dissing on the AP RO diver I think it’s a cool watch. But no one is buying an AP RoO diver coz of nice finishing or horological merit. You’re buying it coz you like the look and want to stay in the AP game. The FF movement finishing is on par with an entry level/complications level Patek Philippe. The anglage finishing is done by hand and the regulation of the movement is spot on, not just mine but numerous FF owners report how consistently accurate their FF is. It was honestly very surprising to me. Granted the AP has really nice octagonal finishing yes. The AP Diver is an awesome watch, but NOONE is buying that for the finishing, you buy it coz it makes a statement on the wrist.

[dpj17]

Originally Posted by VogelPhoenix

My understanding was that the one in the picture has the old bracelet w/o quick change. I tried fitting the quick-change bracelet to the diver together with the watchmaker in one of the Geneva boutiques - without a lot of effort, he could get 3 of the 4 plots to latch. Will try again once I acquire a diver...

You need to switch the plots from the 26238 to the Diver in order to attach the quick change bracelet otherwise it won't attach properly.

[APhound]

Quick release bracelet would be really nice to have on this watch. I don’t know why they wouldn’t be making those to sell us. How much do they charge for a ss bracelet like that?


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[Vivalas]

Okay who gave 24 hours grace and then casually called their SA at AP London to say they wanted a 15720 Diver?

OP seems to have disappeared

[GW44]

Originally Posted by Vivalas

Okay who gave 24 hours grace and then casually called their SA at AP London to say they wanted a 15720 Diver?

OP seems to have disappeared

My lips are sealed………

[Vivalas]

Originally Posted by GW44

My lips are sealed………

Now I know that’s not true - no way GW Whale calls AP . . . . AP calls him

[ikincooper]

Originally Posted by GW44

My lips are sealed………

I hope you did mate, haha


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[davie489]

Hi guys thanks for the input

I’ve decided to turn watch down. Probably regret the decision as I made many visits to AP London but it’s the price increases that have put my off, for 27k I feel I can get more for my money.

[davie489]

Originally Posted by Vivalas

Well Davie did you fella?

Unfortunately I never… may regret as did many visits to London

[GW44]

Originally Posted by VogelPhoenix

I have been waiting for a re-edition of CE diver for years. Disappointed it didn't happen for the ROO 30th.

Same here to be honest.

[GW44]

Originally Posted by davie489

Hi guys thanks for the input

I’ve decided to turn watch down. Probably regret the decision as I made many visits to AP London but it’s the price increases that have put my off, for 27k I feel I can get more for my money.

Is there something else from AP that you really, really want Dave?

[WatchEater666]

Originally Posted by VogelPhoenix

If you say so. 120h reserve is cool. Finishing looks fine for what it is, but not really blowing me away. Not feeling that center screw in the rotor.

The anglage is objectively better executed on the FF than the offshore. The offshore finishing is very rough and anglage has tons of chatter marks. You won’t find any on the BP because they are actually hand finished :-)

[WatchEater666]

Originally Posted by kaiserphoenix

Uhm….hello Fifty fathoms. Not dissing on the AP RO diver I think it’s a cool watch. But no one is buying an AP RoO diver coz of nice finishing or horological merit. You’re buying it coz you like the look and want to stay in the AP game. The FF movement finishing is on par with an entry level/complications level Patek Philippe. The anglage finishing is done by hand and the regulation of the movement is spot on, not just mine but numerous FF owners report how consistently accurate their FF is. It was honestly very surprising to me. Granted the AP has really nice octagonal finishing yes. The AP Diver is an awesome watch, but NOONE is buying that for the finishing, you buy it coz it makes a statement on the wrist.

I would say the FF is better executed than both of the entry level pateks I’ve had which is crazy to me because the ff goes for 1/4th of what I sold my last patek for.

Namely the anglage is impressively thick and free of chatter marks on the Blancpain.

My only issue with them is the thickness.

[davie489]

Originally Posted by Vince_76

Lmao

@OP what did you decide?if you’re not giddy over getting the call (sounds like you’re not), I’d pass.

Originally Posted by GW44

Is there something else from AP that you really, really want Dave?

Hi there

Yes… the 26240 ROC would be what I’m after as final piece. Reason I’ve decided against the diver is price as I can get a Kasparov 25860 full set for same money. I know it’s an older watch but my chances of the ROC from AD must be very slim even with diver purchase?
Thansk

[Vivalas]

Originally Posted by davie489

Hi there
I know it’s an older watch but my chances of the ROC from AD must be very slim even with diver purchase?
Thansk

Dave I don’t think it would be slim. I think it’s realistic. Not today or tomorrow, but next year or year after. Can’t obviously speak on behalf of AP but I’d say there would be every possibility, if you’d bought the diver off them. They want long term clients.

[GW44]

Originally Posted by davie489

Hi there

Yes… the 26240 ROC would be what I’m after as final piece. Reason I’ve decided against the diver is price as I can get a Kasparov 25860 full set for same money. I know it’s an older watch but my chances of the ROC from AD must be very slim even with diver purchase?
Thansk

Hi Dave

Which dial ROC are you after?

And buying the Diver will 100% put you in great place to get the ROC next from one of the AP sites in the Uk.

And I really don’t see the sense in getting the much older Kasparov over the new ROO Diver here.

If I was you I’d rethink the Diver and have a good chat with your SA

[neal.jy]

Diver and ROC sounds like a great 2-watch collection, and should be attainable as 1st and 2nd pieces from AP imo. I echo the advice above and think it’d be worth a chat with your SA!


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[codecow]

I dunno I bought my diver in part because it was the first one with a display back with their in house movement.

[In-N-Out]

Originally Posted by VogelPhoenix

I'll just leave this here, for everyone hatin' on the diver (not my watch, not my photo):

that looks amazing.

[cal14]

Originally Posted by VogelPhoenix

I'll just leave this here, for everyone hatin' on the diver (not my watch, not my photo):

Incredible! What does the steel bracelet cost?

[VogelPhoenix]

Originally Posted by cal14

Incredible! What does the steel bracelet cost?

In round numbers $1k for the plots, $7k for the bracelet, if one wants to quick change (some people claim it fits right away, but that was not the case when I tried). Old, non-quick change, bracelet would be cheaper.

[Uros]

2 years wait fir the diver?! They got to be crazy, good thing you declined. Happy hunting for what you really want


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[VogelPhoenix]

Originally Posted by dpj17

You need to switch the plots from the 26238 to the Diver in order to attach the quick change bracelet otherwise it won't attach properly.

Missed your reply previously. I thought that might be the case. Will the original rubber straps then still fit the diver with the new plots?