Is Rolex THAT much better than Omega?

[Talon84]

Originally Posted by Henrimontgomery

Back then Omega could do great watches.

Nowadays it’s horrendous straight bracelet from the 2000s, it has the “MASCULINE MAN” vibe across the full line up. Thick, large, straight watches.

There is no subtlety and the brand has become a factory of “editions”. 60 years ago we went on the moon, and you’ll never get to forget it!

Yeh about that subtlety……


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Rolex is a hype machine and instagram wet dream full of macho watches that lacks subtlety….

Granted rolex has some subtle watches like the explorer 1 but so does omega in its constellation, de ville and heritage lines

You are correct about the god awful bracelet on the seamaster though

[Neillthewatchfan]

Rolex is just better that's it. It's really that simple every part is just better from fit and finish to wearing comfort. To look to materials used. If I was to make any comment and that is Omega is over priced when competing against the likes of Tudor Tag Breitling.

[Talon84]

Originally Posted by Neillthewatchfan

Rolex is just better that's it. It's really that simple every part is just better from fit and finish to wearing comfort. To look to materials used. If I was to make any comment and that is Omega is over priced when competing against the likes of Tudor Tag Breitling.

Speedy is £7600
Navitimer is £7750
Monaco is £7000 (on a leather bracelet)

300m is £5600
Superocean is £4500
Aqua racer is £3300

Aqua terra is £5700
Chronomat is £4700
Carrera is £2900

I think Omega is priced where it should be in comparison to the other brands…..and superior to all three brands you mention (all 3 are overpriced…..but then so is rolex…..£9000 for a sub, £3400 more than a seamaster?!)

[omar-rye]

[garyk]

Omegas are awesome, Rolexes are awesomer

[Rolex_Fan_]

I have always been a fan of Omega, however when I had compared the rubber they used to the Oysterflex, I couldn't believe how Omega's rubber was so cheap and poorly made.

[Lesnerelli23]

Originally Posted by Talon84

So…Omega

Coaxial movement
Helped set up METAS
Use of ceramic bezels before Rolex and fully ceramic cases
15000 gauss antimagnetic silicone hairspring
Titanium way before Rolex
Sedna Gold…some really cool tech behind that material
Spirate movement
De ville tourbillon
Omega Chiming watches
Lovely historic pieces off catalogue like the 18 CHRO (google it!)
Legendary movements like the 321 and 1861

Im sure rolex have a list too, but i do think Omega has innovated more with materials, movements and designs….some good, some bad

Thank you, I am sincerely interested!

Did Omega do the first chiming watch? Those are very cool, I’ve seen a video about the JLC one.


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[Lesnerelli23]

I absolutely love my Speedmaster. Although I find it annoying to set the date via a button. Would rather not have the date. Too small anyway.


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[911991]

Interesting article comparing Omega Deep Sea 20,000 feet vs Roles DSSD JC 12,800 feet
https://www.fratellowatches.com/sund...tra-deep/#gref

[Talon84]

Originally Posted by Rolex_Fan_

I have always been a fan of Omega, however when I had compared the rubber they used to the Oysterflex, I couldn't believe how Omega's rubber was so cheap and poorly made.

In fairness the oysterflex bracelet is around $600, omegas rubber is half that….so id expect them to be better

[Talon84]

Originally Posted by Lesnerelli23

Thank you, I am sincerely interested!

Did Omega do the first chiming watch? Those are very cool, I’ve seen a video about the JLC one.


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No, obviously didnt make the first one, they just made some cool itterations, if you look into the movement technology of the ones they launched last year, theres quite a lot of innovation going on…..

[00Seven]

They're both great. Ultimately, it comes down to what "moves" your emotions more. Whatever it is, wear it. Life's short.

[Lesnerelli23]

Originally Posted by 911991

Interesting article comparing Omega Deep Sea 20,000 feet vs Roles DSSD JC 12,800 feet
https://www.fratellowatches.com/sund...tra-deep/#gref

Great read


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[Krash]

Like I said above, I’m a huge fan of both Rolex and Omega, but I think the METAS certified movements are a little over-rated.

My most accurate watch is my Submariner 114060 with the 3130 movement. It’s more accurate than my METAS certified Seamaster.

YMMV.


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[Rolex_Fan_]

Originally Posted by Talon84

In fairness the oysterflex bracelet is around $600, omegas rubber is half that….so id expect them to be better

Cost is no excuse for poor quality when it comes to luxury brands. The fact that Omega would let a cheap rubber band like that hit the market, screams inemptitude.

[AK797]

For nearly everyone non WIS, including me 20 years ago, Rolex is the gold standard, top of the heap, king of the hill luxury watch, and whenever I am comparing something else that is the best in its field, I just say this is the Rolex of whatever it is cars/cigars/wines etc and the person gets its the best, if I were to say Patek or AP or RM they would have no clue what I'm on about, and saying Omega or Breitling would not engender that same supremacy either.

[Talon84]

Originally Posted by Rolex_Fan_

Cost is no excuse for poor quality when it comes to luxury brands. The fact that Omega would let a cheap rubber band like that hit the market, screams inemptitude.

The oyserflex isnt as good as the rubber strap on an overseas or royal oak…..but you know, its cheaper….

…inemptitude by rolex

…everything is relative

..the omega strap isnt poor, infact its a decent strap, its just not as good as the oysterflex

[Oxfordian]

I like both brands, I have not had an issue with any of my watches so reliability wise both are equal. My watches are bought because I like them and intend to wear them not because of retained value.

[DoricSpiker]

Originally Posted by Rolex_Fan_

I have always been a fan of Omega, however when I had compared the rubber they used to the Oysterflex, I couldn't believe how Omega's rubber was so cheap and poorly made.

Which rubber strap are you talking about?


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[buckeyechemie]

In short, not in reality. But likely so in perception. This beauty is running about -15s over the last 33 days. Full sunlight highlights the details best. Underwater chrono, built to be an underwater chrono.

Better regulated than my Hulk. Equally discontinued. Beautiful, but not quite as stunning and had from an Omega AD at about 1/2 the Submariner MSRP (at the time).

[Devildog]

Originally Posted by Henrimontgomery

Back then Omega could do great watches.

Nowadays it’s horrendous straight bracelet from the 2000s, it has the “MASCULINE MAN” vibe across the full line up. Thick, large, straight watches.

There is no subtlety and the brand has become a factory of “editions”. 60 years ago we went on the moon, and you’ll never get to forget it!

None of which is in any way related to quality.


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[DauJones]

Got my first omega speedy white dial last weeky and I’m still absolute in love.
Rolex is king for me but the omega is on equal level.


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[Wingman244]

Originally Posted by Rolex_Fan_

Cost is no excuse for poor quality when it comes to luxury brands. The fact that Omega would let a cheap rubber band like that hit the market, screams inemptitude.

The only watch I can see a rubber strap on is maybe a serious diver - like a Seiko 1000meter Tuna. The rubber strap on Daytonas will not be remembered well in 20 years IMO.

[Henrimontgomery]

Originally Posted by Talon84

Yeh about that subtlety……

USA! USA! USA!

Originally Posted by Devildog

None of which is in any way related to quality.

Well at least Rolex has the generosity of eating their profits by giving us a bracelet that’s made of more than 3 similar parts across all the lengths. The no taper thing is 100% laziness.

[wgdaytona]

Each to their own... but... I say Yes. Omega is nice watch, but I do not rank it with a Rolex. Just my .02 worth.

[Talon84]

Originally Posted by Henrimontgomery

USA! USA! USA!




Well at least Rolex has the generosity of eating their profits by giving us a bracelet that’s made of more than 3 similar parts across all the lengths. The no taper thing is 100% laziness.

Still more subtle than that daytona

The only bracelet that doesnt taper with omega is the smp300 now, so one watch out of an entire catalogue….i expect that will be rectified, not before time when its refreshed…probably next year

[stockae92]

I think the market determines what "better" means.

Sometimes better resale value doesn't mean better quality.

If you ask me, I like Omega movement better than Rolex, but like the Rolex construction, detail, tolerance better.

[omar-rye]

Originally Posted by Henrimontgomery

Well at least Rolex has the generosity of eating their profits by giving us a bracelet that’s made of more than 3 similar parts across all the lengths. The no taper thing is 100% laziness.

Omega had solid links and end links years before Rolex finally did. That was 100% due to laziness on Rolex's part.

Originally Posted by Rolex_Fan_

I have always been a fan of Omega, however when I had compared the rubber they used to the Oysterflex, I couldn't believe how Omega's rubber was so cheap and poorly made.

Omega's rubber straps are amazing and far superior to anything else in that price range. I don't know what you're talking about.

[majidessa]

For the ones that say Omega movements are better, I need to understand their argement with facts as according to my knowledge :
- Rolex movements beat at a higher rate of 28,800 vs. Omega's (non chrono) of 25,200
- Rolex movements have longer power reserve of 70 hours Vs 60 hours for 8900 movement
- Rolex precision is -2/+2 Vs Omega 0 to 5 seconds for 8900 movement.
- Rolex service intervals is up to 10 years vs. Omega 5 years despite co axial movement and lower beat rate to minimize wear.
- Serviceability of Rolex movements is easier and usually less complicated than Omega's co-axial movements.
- Both watches have resistance to magnetic fields. However, Omega has edge with 15000 gauss (could not find Rolex rating).
- Omega movements have better decorations than Rolex (no real advantage)

Having said that, I consider Omega movements really good however, I think the benefit of the co-axial escapment and magnetic rating is over exaurated in real life usage.

[rover26c]

Is Rolex much better than Omega?

——> Absolutely!




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