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Old Today, 02:41 PM   #1
norcalgt3
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5711 Hype Dissapearing

The 5711 prices on secondary are dropping significantly even past discontinuation. I have several dial color configurations and am thinking of consolidating my collection (aka selling). Is this something multiple 5711 owners have considered?

I see nothing in the future propping the hype prices up. Happy to be wrong however.
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Old Today, 03:23 PM   #2
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Yeah they're definitely dropping fast. I see 60k as a very reasonable target within the next year.
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Old Today, 03:39 PM   #3
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Hmm good question. Nobody knows what the future holds but I feel pretty good about my 5711. I probably paid way too much for it but to me it was always kinda THE watch.. I think if they can’t hold value then I don’t know what can.
But if I had multiple I’d maybe trade some for something else and just keep one, but that’s just for practicality not what’s a better investment. What are you thinking of trading into?


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Hmm good question. Nobody knows what the future holds but I feel pretty good about my 5711. I probably paid way too much for it but to me it was always kinda THE watch.. I think if they can’t hold value then I don’t know what can.
But if I had multiple I’d maybe trade some for something else and just keep one, but that’s just for practicality not what’s a better investment. What are you thinking of trading into?


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Honestly thinking of selling to buy stocks while i await for future patek releases
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Old Today, 04:48 PM   #5
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It’s a mass produced watch that is “nice” but not worth anywhere near what it has traded for these last few years. I wouldn’t be surprised if it keeps floating down in value.

IMO it’s a good thing as Patek has WAY more interesting pieces than the Nautilus. I’m glad Patek said they didn’t want turn into AP and the RO.
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Old Today, 04:57 PM   #6
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Not a bad thing especially if you are in the market for one
less buyers the better and I mean that for all watches
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Old Today, 05:39 PM   #7
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I have recently purchased a 5712 on grey and can tell you that if something is priced right, even 10% under the average it can move in days. I would get a watch offered wednesday night and by thursday morning it would be sold, so there is definitely movement and it's not a "free fall" at least for that model. I think what will define the bottom will be the new price of comparable models. SO if the only available three hand time only Nautilus is the 5811 and it costs 60k then the bottom will be somewhat above that. Furthermore dont let low prices at face value fool you, some of them are 12 years old and in ROUGH shape. You would think it's easy to find a good watch for a ton of money but it is not. Bad polishing and questionable history made me raise my budget multiple times.
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Old Today, 07:01 PM   #8
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Not sure if other multiple 5711 owners address the issue purely from a financial perspective. It begs the question why you ended up with multiple 5711 and what has changed since. If you fell out of love with the disappearing hype you might still want to rush to the exit despite missing out on much higher prices 2 years ago. No point in hoping for prices to move up again substantially but still some room for further drops I think. Personally I have a clear favorite which I continue to enjoy and haven't thought about selling. Not in 2021 or 2022 and not since.
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Old Today, 08:02 PM   #9
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Excellent idea! Sell your 5711s and buy stocks. Equities will go up in price between now and when PP issues its new releases thereby reducing your "real cost" when you are allocated those new and desirable watches.
I don't see anything wrong with this. Everyone should do it.
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Old Today, 08:27 PM   #10
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Excellent idea! Sell your 5711s and buy stocks. Equities will go up in price between now and when PP issues its new releases thereby reducing your "real cost" when you are allocated those new and desirable watches.
I don't see anything wrong with this. Everyone should do it.
Another plus is that the stock market will be propelled to new highs if everyone follows your advice.
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Another plus is that the stock market will be propelled to new highs if everyone follows your advice.
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Old Today, 08:57 PM   #12
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I've been following watches since 2009 (and deep in Patek since 2011). The Nautilus models usually sold on the secondary market around 10-15% under MSRP. Aquanaut as well (even if it wasn't a model people liked back then). The "traditional" models faced, depending on the complication and price level (the higher the price, the higher the loss), between 10 and 40% (very roughly)?

And then came the growth of China during the 2010's that has gone along with western countries performance. It started to be visible I guess progressively but very visible from the 2018-2019 years. With a pick in the post-covid boom.

The Nautilus x2 x3 secondary increase, the Aquanaut's rise (that nobody wanted before) has pushed with a 6-10 months delay the traditional models up as well.

This trend is reversing on the economics side and the watch market as well.

I guess that many new comers will stay in the sense that watches have gained some interest/visibility versus the 2000's and before.

How low will it go, when will it rise again (if it does)? Hard to say. I guess the Nautilus/Aquanaut correspond to today's casual fashion, which means they should remain on the front line. But I remember that people preferred gold vs steel 10 years ago. They also preferred complications vs aesthetics.

Hard to read for the future :)
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