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[SDGT3]

Originally Posted by Maleg

It's OK to be a game manager if you have a great defense. You can still grind out TD's and outscore your opponent. While it's nice to have the uber-talented QB, you don't need one to win the SB (remember Jim McMahon and Joe Flacco).

You forgot Trent Dilfer

[Maleg]

Originally Posted by SDGT3

You forgot Trent Dilfer

Some are more easily forgotten than others.

[Krash]

More crazy Jalen Hurts stats:

With a minimum of 50 passes thrown, Hurts is now the most accurate passer in Super Bowl history with a rating of 73.3. (71.3 in Super Bowl LVII and 77.3 in Super Bowl LIX).

Hurts has the 4th highest Super Bowl QB rating in history with 109.4. He trails Joe Montana (127.8), Terry Bradshaw (112.8) and Troy Aikman (111.9).

Hurts is the first player to have multiple 70 yard rushing games in the Super Bowl since Joseph Addai did it with the Colts.

Hurts is tied for second all-time with 4 rushing touchdowns in the Super Bowl. Emmitt Smith (5). He’s tied with Thurman Thomas, John Elway, and Franco Harris.

All this come from NBC Sports. Here are some screen shots.

[twitch54]

Krash, you know what's interesting.........living here in SE Pa I hear plenty of Eagles fans that still don't think he is a stellar QB ?? go figure !

[Maleg]

Originally Posted by twitch54

Krash, you know what's interesting.........living here in SE Pa I hear plenty of Eagles fans that still don't think he is a stellar QB ?? go figure !

He earned that reputation though. He struggled reading defenses for quite a while. People were genuinely concerned when Jason Kelce retired that Hurts wouldn't be able to read defenses and adjust the protections.

[Krash]

Originally Posted by Maleg

He earned that reputation though. He struggled reading defenses for quite a while. People were genuinely concerned when Jason Kelce retired that Hurts wouldn't be able to read defenses and adjust the protections.

The Eagles collapsed in 2023 because of their defense. They couldn’t stop anyone. If you look back at that season, Hurts and company were still were ranked a top 5 offense. But much of the problems were projected onto the QB (which is pretty normal).

This year, Hurts only threw about 20 passes a game on average. Significantly less than most of the QBs in the league. They didn’t need to throw because of how dominating their run game was. But a bi-product of that, was the perception that the Eagles don’t have a good passing game.

It was compounded by their big 3 missing a lot of games. AJ Brown missed 4 games. Devonte Smith missed 5 games. And Dallas Goedert missed 8 games. Some of those injuries overlapped, but yet they were still winning and running over teams while those guys were out.


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[SDGT3]

To expand on my earlier point that Hurts made some really good decisions, the Chiefs defense did an outstanding job stopping Barkley and dared the Eagles that Hurts would have to beat them. Again, the Philly defense was something else that night, but the way Hurts passed and run showed that he stepped up to the challenge. He had 1 bad pass in the first half where he was pressured and led to a pick. I'm not a philly fan, just an opinion as an observer.

[Maleg]

Originally Posted by Krash

The Eagles collapsed in 2023 because of their defense. They couldn’t stop anyone. If you look back at that season, Hurts and company were still were ranked a top 5 offense. But much of the problems were projected onto the QB (which is pretty normal).

This year, Hurts only threw about 20 passes a game on average. Significantly less than most of the QBs in the league. They didn’t need to throw because of how dominating their run game was. But a bi-product of that, was the perception that the Eagles don’t have a good passing game.

It was compounded by their big 3 missing a lot of games. AJ Brown missed 4 games. Devonte Smith missed 5 games. And Dallas Goedert missed 8 games. Some of those injuries overlapped, but yet they were still winning and running over teams while those guys were out.


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Hurts definately stepped up this season. But that doesn't mean there weren't worries in the past. Jason Kelcey ran the protections before he retired. It was not a certainty that Hurts would make the leap, hence the naysayers amongst your own fan base.

[Krash]

Originally Posted by Maleg

Hurts definately stepped up this season. But that doesn't mean there weren't worries in the past. Jason Kelcey ran the protections before he retired. It was not a certainty that Hurts would make the leap, hence the naysayers amongst your own fan base.

Yeah, I think I was one of them. I remember saying in this thread (I believe, maybe not), that Trevor Lawrence would ball out if he were an Eagle.

I also think I said I’d trade Hurts for Lawrence any day. That sounds crazy now.

Now he’s a Philadelphia legend.


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[Maleg]

Originally Posted by Krash

Yeah, I think I was one of them. I remember saying in this thread (I believe, maybe not), that Trevor Lawrence would ball out if he were an Eagle.

I also think I said I’d trade Hurts for Lawrence any day. That sounds crazy now.

Now he’s a Philadelphia legend.


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The real hero's always step up. Hurts joined an exclusive list this year.

[huncho]

Originally Posted by SDGT3

To expand on my earlier point that Hurts made some really good decisions, the Chiefs defense did an outstanding job stopping Barkley and dared the Eagles that Hurts would have to beat them. Again, the Philly defense was something else that night, but the way Hurts passed and run showed that he stepped up to the challenge. He had 1 bad pass in the first half where he was pressured and led to a pick. I'm not a philly fan, just an opinion as an observer.

yeah Hurts played a pretty perfect game outside of that 1 bad pass

crazy turnaround for the eagles considering it felt like they were probably 1 or 2 losses away from imploding at the beginning of the season. i imagine something drastic could've happened if they lost that game vs the browns since they were already coming off an unexplainable collapse last season

at the end of the day that's just a ridiculously stacked roster and just needed a spark. maybe that spark was Sirianni shaving his head

[Boothroyd]

Well, all 32 teams are at 0-0 now. Wonder who next year's surprise playoff team will be.

[huncho]

also just wanna say everyone should go and re-read the first page or 2 where we all gave our predictions. we were all horribly wrong lol

[Easy E]

Originally Posted by Boothroyd

Well, all 32 teams are at 0-0 now. Wonder who next year's surprise playoff team will be.

Not the Falcons

[Krash]

Originally Posted by Boothroyd

Well, all 32 teams are at 0-0 now. Wonder who next year's surprise playoff team will be.

We’ll start to get a glimmer into next season after the draft and free agent signings.

Eagles have some big names that are free agents.

Josh Sweat and Milton Sweat. They accounted for 4 1/2 sacks in the Super Bowl. Both are going to get paid $$$$$$$$. Eagles won’t be able to keep either because of salary cap constraints. But the Eagles have depth, so don’t be surprised if the Eagles don’t miss a beat after plugging in some guys that are already on their roster.

Zach Baun. He was nominated for defensive player of the year. The Eagles will sign and keep him.

Mechi Becton. Massive right guard that plowed huge holes for Barkley. He’s gone but the Eagles have guys on the bench that will fill in and they won’t miss a beat. They’ll still have the best offensive line in football.

My only concern is if teams like the Commanders, Lions, Rams or 49ers sign some of these guys. Otherwise, we could fill these shoes either through the draft or with guys already on the roster.


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[Malum]

Originally Posted by Easy E

Not the Falcons

Maybe not , but I was at the Eagles home opener on MNF and the Falcons won .

[Malum]

Must sign Braun and Becton !

[Easy E]

Originally Posted by Malum

Maybe not , but I was at the Eagles home opener on MNF and the Falcons won .

While true, the Falcons have a mysterious knack for being very middle of the pack forgettable by year end.

[Boothroyd]

The Draft is in Green Bay in April. Hotels are charging 3x (an hour away) to 14x regular rates. Not a lot of hotel room capacity for the expected crowd. And most of these hotel rooms are your Hampton Inn variety--for $1600 a night in Green Bay.

Not sure what the draw is for standing around waiting for a name to be called. It's a great place to watch a game, but......

[Krash]

Originally Posted by Krash

We’ll start to get a glimmer into next season after the draft and free agent signings.

Eagles have some big names that are free agents.

Josh Sweat and Milton Sweat. They accounted for 4 1/2 sacks in the Super Bowl. Both are going to get paid $$$$$$$$. Eagles won’t be able to keep either because of salary cap constraints. But the Eagles have depth, so don’t be surprised if the Eagles don’t miss a beat after plugging in some guys that are already on their roster.

Zach Baun. He was nominated for defensive player of the year. The Eagles will sign and keep him.

Mechi Becton. Massive right guard that plowed huge holes for Barkley. He’s gone but the Eagles have guys on the bench that will fill in and they won’t miss a beat. They’ll still have the best offensive line in football.

My only concern is if teams like the Commanders, Lions, Rams or 49ers sign some of these guys. Otherwise, we could fill these shoes either through the draft or with guys already on the roster.


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I made a mistake. There is a typo in this. That’s Milton Williams, not Milton Sweat.


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[Maleg]

Originally Posted by Boothroyd

The Draft is in Green Bay in April. Hotels are charging 3x (an hour away) to 14x regular rates. Not a lot of hotel room capacity for the expected crowd. And most of these hotel rooms are your Hampton Inn variety--for $1600 a night in Green Bay.

Not sure what the draw is for standing around waiting for a name to be called. It's a great place to watch a game, but......

I agree. I think the draft coverage is far better than standing around in a huge crowd.

We used to have a cottage up in Sturgeon Bay. I bet that rents for big money if the Hampton is getting $1600 a night.

[White Collar Boy]

Guys, please help me out with any suggestions: for someone not from the USA, what criteria would you suggest for choosing an NFL team to follow?

I’d rather not jump on any team that’s too good straight away, some team with a little struggle and heartache, with decent ownership, and some interesting cultural links to the city would be good. Am I missing anything?

[Krash]

Originally Posted by White Collar Boy

Guys, please help me out with any suggestions: for someone not from the USA, what criteria would you suggest for choosing an NFL team to follow?

I’d rather not jump on any team that’s too good straight away, some team with a little struggle and heartache, with decent ownership, and some interesting cultural links to the city would be good. Am I missing anything?

Literally every team struggles and gives fans a little heartache.

Fans of the Chiefs, Lions, Bills, and Ravens aren’t exactly jumping for joy right now. But all these teams had great seasons this year. Last year, Eagle fans were apoplectic over how the season ended. This year, they’re Super Bowl Champions.

I would classify those 5 teams as top tier with teams like the Rams, Commanders, Texans, Packers, Buccaneers, and Chargers not far behind.

It’s difficult to give advice because football seasons very rarely go as expected. However, there are many teams that are much worse than others when it comes to heartache. For example, Cleveland Browns, Las Vegas Raiders, Miami Dolphins to name a few.

In my case, I’m a huge Eagles fan simply because I lived in south east Pennsylvania for 58 years. Being an Eagles fan is genetic and in my DNA.

So for most of us, it comes down to geography and where we live or grew up.

Is there a US city or location that you have a deep affinity with?


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[SDGT3]

Originally Posted by White Collar Boy

Guys, please help me out with any suggestions: for someone not from the USA, what criteria would you suggest for choosing an NFL team to follow?

I’d rather not jump on any team that’s too good straight away, some team with a little struggle and heartache, with decent ownership, and some interesting cultural links to the city would be good. Am I missing anything?

This is such a personal question. Typically with any sports team, it comes down to who one may have been a fan of when a child, where you grew up and the memories associated with them. Logically trying to pick a team based on ownership or cultural links when not tied to a team is nearly impossible.

I once took my daughter to a Fulham Football match in London during a vacation when she was 14. There are much more famous clubs in London and England for that matter, but that one experience made her a Fulham fan for life even as she's an adult now. Fulham isn't the best team and regardless of the fact they get relegated every so often, she still follows them and has their shirts. Those are the kind of emotional heartstrings that being a "Fan"atic are all about.

[huncho]

Originally Posted by White Collar Boy

Guys, please help me out with any suggestions: for someone not from the USA, what criteria would you suggest for choosing an NFL team to follow?

I’d rather not jump on any team that’s too good straight away, some team with a little struggle and heartache, with decent ownership, and some interesting cultural links to the city would be good. Am I missing anything?

watch highlights and pick a player you really enjoy watching and go from there

[Maleg]

Originally Posted by White Collar Boy

Guys, please help me out with any suggestions: for someone not from the USA, what criteria would you suggest for choosing an NFL team to follow?

I’d rather not jump on any team that’s too good straight away, some team with a little struggle and heartache, with decent ownership, and some interesting cultural links to the city would be good. Am I missing anything?

With the parity that is built into the NFL there is an excellent chance any team you pick will be competitive for some time and a disaster for some time. However, some teams have horrible owners and are essentially doomed every year.

The Bears, Jets, and Browns have notoriously horrible ownership. If you follow any of these teams you will soon acquire a sense of hopelessness in your life.

[Boothroyd]

Originally Posted by White Collar Boy

Guys, please help me out with any suggestions: for someone not from the USA, what criteria would you suggest for choosing an NFL team to follow?

I’d rather not jump on any team that’s too good straight away, some team with a little struggle and heartache, with decent ownership, and some interesting cultural links to the city would be good. Am I missing anything?

You do sound like a candidate to be Packers fan, but I am biased. The Packers are the only team owned by the fans, so no obnoxious owner. History of success, but somewhat under achieving in recent years.

Steelers, Broncos, Bills, Eagles, 49'ers, Vikings, Commanders, Lions, Ravens come to mind. Maybe pick one from each conference, as they will play each other infrequently (every 4th year generally). Even though Eagles have won this Super Bowl, it is only their second ever.

I eliminated some famous teams on ownership criteria: Cowboys, Dolphins, Raiders.

One guy's opinion. Hope it helps.

[Krash]

Originally Posted by Boothroyd

Even though Eagles have won this Super Bowl, it is only their second ever.

LOL. The Packers only have two Super Bowl wins in the last 57 years. And Eagles have more Super Bowl wins in the 21st century than the Packers do. So Packer fans should get off that high horse of theirs.


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[ts3]

Originally Posted by White Collar Boy

Guys, please help me out with any suggestions: for someone not from the USA, what criteria would you suggest for choosing an NFL team to follow?

I’d rather not jump on any team that’s too good straight away, some team with a little struggle and heartache, with decent ownership, and some interesting cultural links to the city would be good. Am I missing anything?

I never thought about rational criteria regarding which team to support. It is a matter of the heart rather than the head I think. I started watching NFL on American Forces Network in Germany in the late 1980s and liked the Bills after a while. Accidentally, Buffalo of all places was also a brief stop during my first US trip in 1993. I lived in New York in the late 1990s and have been back and forth all the time in the 2000s and 2010s but have not been back to Buffalo. As a Bills fan ever since I was the laughing stock of many of my friends for much of the time. Not anymore.

[Boothroyd]

"I’d rather not jump on any team that’s too good straight away, some team with a little struggle and heartache,..."

You're absolutely right, Krash.

White Collar Boy, I would follow Krash's advice and eliminate the Eagles from your list of teams you might choose to support. Too much recent success.