116500 to 126500 upgrade?

[BigDogGoneHunting]

Originally Posted by Daytona king

I was in a similar situation. For me the modern case was worth the trade imo. For me the 126500 is a significant upgrade as the watch wears larger on my wrist. It also looks for refined. The new case is the same case as the OF Daytona.

Get the new one. If you are already asking you know the answer.



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This nails it for me. The 126 is the way & definitely wears larger.

[shaunylw]

The 126 is such a nice upgrade, i love how the bezel looks with the stainless ring.


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[Masteryacht]

I’m keeping my 116500 black. The way Rolex has been going as of late, it won’t be long until they change the Daytona again.

[georgekart]

Assuming you got the 116500 from an AD, you can get the 126500 from an AD, so get on the list for the 126500 and when it comes in, sell the 116500. You'll have the watch you like more on your wrist and won't lose any money. In fact you'll make money. If you can't get it from an AD, it makes it harder because you'll probably have to add a significant amount. Only you can answer if it's worth it. As for the potential future value, nobody knows what will happen. So just ignore it. If you get a watch you enjoy more, that's all you can hope for.

[wobjk]

My personal preference is the 116500LN with the white dial and the 126500LN with the black dial.

I find that the case of the new reference is blockier than the old reference. This makes the bracelet appear slimmer at the lugs - a look that I do not like and which reminds me of previous submariner references 116610LN/LV. To my eye this effect is more pronounced with the white dial than with the black dial.

The thinner subdial rings, smaller hour markers, and conseuqently increased dial space work well with the black dial in the new reference but not as well with the white dial.


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[enjoythemusic]

Personal preference... my old eyes prefers the 11.

[Tricolore66]

As someone posted previously, if you’ve owned a Speedmaster Pro you know that the ring around the bezel is particularly vulnerable to picking up nicks, and that alone would lead me to keep my 116500. The point of the ceramic bezel was to fix the most annoying aspect of owning a 116520, which was the bezel scratches. The 126500 trades one issue for another. I actually like the asymmetrical lugs as well, which were often referred to in Rolex print ads for the Daytona as a design detail and not a flaw to to corrected later. For the record, I was offered a 126500 and passed, though I’d happily taken it if I didn’t already have the 116500. I like my Daytona but it’s not one of my favorites. I actually far prefer my recent white dial Speedmaster Professional, which I realize isn’t a popular opinion on a Rolex forum.

[JR16]

Originally Posted by Tricolore66

As someone posted previously, if you’ve owned a Speedmaster Pro you know that the ring around the bezel is particularly vulnerable to picking up nicks, and that alone would lead me to keep my 116500. The point of the ceramic bezel was to fix the most annoying aspect of owning a 116520, which was the bezel scratches. The 126500 trades one issue for another. I actually like the asymmetrical lugs as well, which were often referred to in Rolex print ads for the Daytona as a design detail and not a flaw to to corrected later. For the record, I was offered a 126500 and passed, though I’d happily taken it if I didn’t already have the 116500. I like my Daytona but it’s not one of my favorites. I actually far prefer my recent white dial Speedmaster Professional, which I realize isn’t a popular opinion on a Rolex forum.

I much prefer the 116500 so think paying to upgrade isn’t at all worth it.


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[Daytona king]

Originally Posted by JSol1

I prefer the 12s. I own both Black & White 116’s and I plan on upgrading both. As others have said, no big changes just iterations of refinement…

116 pair
126 pair. The 126 definitely wears better imo. Also looks more refined in person. The 116 definitely photographs well but the 126 is just nicer imo.

I say go for it.


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[Daytona king]

Originally Posted by Aerotol786

As someone with both what’s your experience with the new movement? Have you tried running the chrono for a while on both and seeing how it affects timekeeping?

No differences. I don’t run the chronograph for no reason so I don’t have any data on that. I’m sorry.


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[Maxy]

Thank you for so much feedback. It's good to read varied opinions. I think if the difference between 2 watches is < $5K USD, I can do it but if it's around $10K, it doesn't make sense to swap the reference.

[Daytona king]

Originally Posted by Tricolore66

As someone posted previously, if you’ve owned a Speedmaster Pro you know that the ring around the bezel is particularly vulnerable to picking up nicks, and that alone would lead me to keep my 116500. The point of the ceramic bezel was to fix the most annoying aspect of owning a 116520, which was the bezel scratches. The 126500 trades one issue for another. I actually like the asymmetrical lugs as well, which were often referred to in Rolex print ads for the Daytona as a design detail and not a flaw to to corrected later. For the record, I was offered a 126500 and passed, though I’d happily taken it if I didn’t already have the 116500. I like my Daytona but it’s not one of my favorites. I actually far prefer my recent white dial Speedmaster Professional, which I realize isn’t a popular opinion on a Rolex forum.

Wow which 126500 did you pass up on? I’m assuming this was from an AD at retail.


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[928ktgold]

Originally Posted by Daytona king

I was in a similar situation. For me the modern case was worth the trade imo. For me the 126500 is a significant upgrade as the watch wears larger on my wrist. It also looks for refined. The new case is the same case as the OF Daytona.



Get the new one. If you are already asking you know the answer.







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New case is similar but not exactly the same as the OF case. The OF case is slight wider and its lugs are sharper

To the OP my dad and I had the white and black 116500 and traded them to get new ones. Very happy.


Lastly I’m going to update my 116519 to the 126519 next year if my ad takes it as a CPO trade in. If not I’ll go grey.
This one makes that least sense as the differences here are negligible. I do love the new markers and bezel ring through.

[Armis]

Originally Posted by 928ktgold

To the OP my dad and I had the white and black 116500 and traded them to get new ones. Very happy.


Lastly I’m going to update my 116519 to the 126519 next year if my ad takes it as a CPO trade in. If not I’ll go grey.
This one makes that least sense as the differences here are negligible. I do love the new markers and bezel ring through.

Very nice duo. Were you and your dad able to do a 1:1 trade with the AD, or did the AD want additional $ on top?

[Greg.A]

12 is the way to go, market polls(search here) and prices reflect the same

[kritameth]

I have both. I think the design of the 12 series look more cohesive, and if I was to own only one Daytona or recommend one for most, it'd be the 12. But FWIW, I prefer the 11 in my collection and on my wrist; I realize I'm alone in this, but I only wear the 11 formally (and actually daily my DD40) so I love its proportions, and maybe because of said proportions or whatever other reason, I think the 11 looks better than the 12 on my wrist, but vice versa in the watch box. Can't really go wrong with either, but like I said, I think the 12 is the safer choice for most.

[ronricks]

If you are going to do it do it now the price on the 116500 is going down by the month.

[Calatrava r]

I am looking to add it, but my AD may have other ideas. LOL

[Calatrava r]

Originally Posted by 928ktgold

New case is similar but not exactly the same as the OF case. The OF case is slight wider and its lugs are sharper

To the OP my dad and I had the white and black 116500 and traded them to get new ones. Very happy.


Lastly I’m going to update my 116519 to the 126519 next year if my ad takes it as a CPO trade in. If not I’ll go grey.
This one makes that least sense as the differences here are negligible. I do love the new markers and bezel ring through.

I think the new ones look so much better than the old ones. The bezel cased in metal, smaller sub-dial circles and balanced lugs. Amazing how these changes improved these watches.

[kritameth]

Originally Posted by Greg.A

12 is the way to go, market polls(search here) and prices reflect the same

Let me get this straight, if a reference is worth more in the secondary it's inherently the right choice for everyone? Not a rhetorical question, I candidly would like to understand your rationale.

[Tricolore66]

It was, a white dial 126500. I’m not a flipper and I’d rather use my goodwill for a piece I really want. Truth be told, if it was a black dial I may have taken it, since I’ve never owned a Daytona with a black dial.

Originally Posted by Daytona king

Wow which 126500 did you pass up on? I’m assuming this was from an AD at retail.


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[mannyv11]

I prefer the 12 series and recently made a swap with my AD from the 11 to the 12

[Greg.A]

Originally Posted by kritameth

Let me get this straight, if a reference is worth more in the secondary it's inherently the right choice for everyone? Not a rhetorical question, I candidly would like to understand your rationale.

May or may not be. Ultimately, watch is a personal thing, what’s nice for you might not be for others. My point is that 12 appears to be more popular than the 11, judging from the polls here and market demand. And 11 price is dropping, as you can see from the chats here as well..

[Maxy]

Originally Posted by mannyv11

I prefer the 12 series and recently made a swap with my AD from the 11 to the 12

Was it an equal swap or adding $$ from your side? If I gray market, the difference seems huge.

[928ktgold]

Originally Posted by Armis

Very nice duo. Were you and your dad able to do a 1:1 trade with the AD, or did the AD want additional $ on top?

Was grey originally to other greys

[KyloRen]

I actually prefer the older white. I prefer thicker subdials on the white.

On the other hand, I prefer new black compared to older one.

[mannyv11]

Originally Posted by Maxy

Was it an equal swap or adding $$ from your side? If I gray market, the difference seems huge.

equal swap, my AD sells pre-owned watches so he took my watch on a straight trade for the new one as it would be a win-win for both of us.

[Maxy]

Originally Posted by mannyv11

equal swap, my AD sells pre-owned watches so he took my watch on a straight trade for the new one as it would be a win-win for both of us.

That's a great trade. For equal swap, it's no brainer.

[trout_thumper21]

For me, getting rid of the asymmetrical lugs was the biggest improvement.

[faz]

Lucky owner of 126500 in black dial, and I really like the bezel ring around the ceramic (somehow no ring bezel looked unfinished to me), but... if I had the 116500 I don't think I would replace it with the new one.

I have been having the same dilemma with my 16613LB bluesy , I really preferred the ceramic when it came out and then every generation since, but I could never bring myself to sell the old watch and 'upgrade' to the newer one. Just didn't make sense. (and my history with the old watch was important to me as well.)