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smc · 13 November 2009, 03:08 AM

That's pretty darn nice. I would leave it as is - and get an original bracelet :)

PhilM · 13 November 2009, 03:40 AM

That really is a wonderful catch, I would love to get hold of one of those but sadly I think the prices just keep heading up before I can get the $$$ togehter.

Rolesor · 13 November 2009, 03:49 AM

Wow! What a stunning acquisition. Congrats on picking up your grail - It must feel great!

SDDS · 13 November 2009, 06:10 AM

congratulations very nice

deserted · 13 November 2009, 06:17 AM

Not a bad find ....Enjoy my friend...

TSW · 13 November 2009, 06:22 AM

Damn thats a nice vintage model!!

Ken Cox · 13 November 2009, 06:34 AM

A beautiful watch, yes, and a fascinating dial face.

However, something escapes me, probably having to do with my ignorance regarding the early years of the Explorer II.

It says "Explorer II" on the dial face, and it appears to have a plastic crystal and a Cyclops.

The "II", to me, denotes a 3085 movement, which allows hacking and jump setting of the hour hand.

My previous reading on this subject suggests to me that Rolex developed the 3085 movement in 1977, but didn't put it into a production watch until the 1983 GMT Master II, aka "Fat Lady," which had a sapphire crystal.

Further, my reading suggests that the Explorer did not become the Explorer II until 1986, when Rolex placed the 3085 movement in the Explorer and added a sapphire crystal.

So, I'd like to know more about this watch, the movement in it, the "II", the plastic crystal, and the Cyclops.

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Regarding the "scars," or history on this watch: the first time I had my 1986 Fat Lady serviced, I didn't realize they would polish the case.

I grieved the loss of all those honorably earned scars and the history they carried with them.

whiskyguy · 13 November 2009, 02:41 PM

The explorer II was released in the early 70's It uses the 1575 movement (same as the original GMT). In 86 or so the followed this up with the 16550 using The same movement as the gmt II

this particular watch dates to 74

cheers

mck22 · 13 November 2009, 02:49 PM

Very very nice, are you in west kansas or east kansas?

Kemper Boyd · 13 November 2009, 02:56 PM

beautiful battle scarred warrior...congratulations

whiskyguy · 13 November 2009, 08:20 PM

Nt

13 November 2009, 06:10 AM	#34
SDDS "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Yazan Location: Canada Posts: 4,782	congratulations very nice __________________ Patek Philippe 5167 Patek Philippe 5905P black dial Rolex Deepsea 116660 M series Rolex Oysterquartz 17000 N series Rolex OP 41MM 124300 Green Dial

13 November 2009, 06:22 AM	#36
TSW "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: TSW Location: Le Brassus Watch: Rolex & AP's Posts: 27,449	Damn thats a nice vintage model!! __________________ AP Owners Club IG @swiss.watch.connection

13 November 2009, 02:41 PM	#38
whiskyguy "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Kansas Posts: 666	Ken... Some answers The explorer II was released in the early 70's It uses the 1575 movement (same as the original GMT). In 86 or so the followed this up with the 16550 using The same movement as the gmt II this particular watch dates to 74 cheers

13 November 2009, 02:49 PM	#39
mck22 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Brent Location: St Louis Watch: Rolex Sub Date Posts: 1,516	Very very nice, are you in west kansas or east kansas? __________________ 16610 Submariner GMT Master II 16710 1675

13 November 2009, 08:20 PM	#41
whiskyguy "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Kansas Posts: 666	Kansas City (Overland Park). Nt Nt

13 November 2009, 03:08 AM	#31
smc Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: canada Watch: 16610 - Y Posts: 95	That's pretty darn nice. I would leave it as is - and get an original bracelet :)

13 November 2009, 03:40 AM	#32
PhilM "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Phil Location: London Watch: Sea-Dweller Posts: 1,765	That really is a wonderful catch, I would love to get hold of one of those but sadly I think the prices just keep heading up before I can get the $$$ togehter.

13 November 2009, 03:49 AM	#33
Rolesor "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Brandon Location: Toronto, ON Watch: 116234 Posts: 4,150	Wow! What a stunning acquisition. Congrats on picking up your grail - It must feel great!

13 November 2009, 06:17 AM	#35
deserted Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: fort wayne IN Watch: Patek 1909003 Posts: 2,176	Not a bad find ....Enjoy my friend...

13 November 2009, 06:34 AM	#37
Ken Cox "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Ken Cox Location: Bend, Oregon, USA Watch: GMT Master II Posts: 469	A beautiful watch, yes, and a fascinating dial face. However, something escapes me, probably having to do with my ignorance regarding the early years of the Explorer II. It says "Explorer II" on the dial face, and it appears to have a plastic crystal and a Cyclops. The "II", to me, denotes a 3085 movement, which allows hacking and jump setting of the hour hand. My previous reading on this subject suggests to me that Rolex developed the 3085 movement in 1977, but didn't put it into a production watch until the 1983 GMT Master II, aka "Fat Lady," which had a sapphire crystal. Further, my reading suggests that the Explorer did not become the Explorer II until 1986, when Rolex placed the 3085 movement in the Explorer and added a sapphire crystal. So, I'd like to know more about this watch, the movement in it, the "II", the plastic crystal, and the Cyclops. ===== Regarding the "scars," or history on this watch: the first time I had my 1986 Fat Lady serviced, I didn't realize they would polish the case. I grieved the loss of all those honorably earned scars and the history they carried with them.

13 November 2009, 02:56 PM	#40
Kemper Boyd "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Mike Location: Houston, USA Watch: 16610 V-series Posts: 127	beautiful battle scarred warrior...congratulations

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