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4 December 2011, 09:11 PM | #1 |
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Do I buy a Yachtmaster without papers?
Got the new watch fever at the moment. Just spotted a 5 to 6 year old Yatchmaster 16622 in a local jewellers for £5k.
It looks superb on the wrist and I'm a tad smitten. Only downside to this is the lack of paperwork! There's a box (big deal) and nothing else. Am I taking a big risk? Is it the sort of watch you'd buy? Anything to watch out for? Regards to all |
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If you like it go for it. I think you can do better on the price though. I've bought 2 YM this year. One for $5000 usd and one for $5600 with box and papers.
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I totally agree...the watch is what matters. I'd far sooner have a watch in better condition without b&p than a lesser condition watch with the full kit. As long as it's genuine and is to your expectations on condition...go for it
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Personally, I like the boxes and papers.
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There is no more "risk" one way or the other.. papers are more easily faked than the watch and so if you do find one with them, both need to be authenticated... Papers do not "authenticate" any Rolex..
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I like B&P but with our without that seems too high priced
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Until I started frequenting this board, the idea of boxes and papers was foreign to me.
But then, I'd never owned a "luxury" watch. The two Rolex watches I have were bought new, so I do have the boxes and papers, mainly because of the influence of many on this and other boards. Although I do agree that they are not essential, the importance of them among the WIS community makes keeping them a good idea and I like the idea that I have all the documentation of the sales on hand. Both instances were big events for me. If I were to by a used Rolex, certainly I would not depend on boxes and papers as authentication, but I would look upon them as a kind of "security blanket," if you will. With the sales and service documentation, there's more than just a watch, there's a story of sorts and provenance.
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I used to be fuzzy about papers and boxes, not anymore.
All that really matters is that you get a genuine and good condition watch! Get it.
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Thanks for your comments everyone.
I am now of the opinion that it's the watch rather than the inclusion of 'papers' that's important. I am, however, going to go for a discount as the 'papers' thing seems to be important to dealers. Play them at their own game, I think Thanks again |
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Great watch, but you may be able to do better on that price I'm not sure if maybe they are harder to get there across the pond
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12 December 2011, 12:16 AM | #15 |
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Thanks again for all your help.
Yesterday I bit the bullet and bought it. It's a 2005. Got it for £4.3k after a bit of persuation so I'm a happy bunny! |
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Can I ask you wether sizers are still going last time I was in scarborough they were shuttered up and they used to advertise in yorkshire life but havent for a while?congrats on your new purchase my wife has the same watch but in ladies size and she hasnt looked at another rolex since,smitten !
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Congratulations and well done with the haggling! I like the YM a lot. It's a "quiet" Rolex imo.
I like box and papers, but if you're buying to keep it wouldn't really matter. padi56 and Tools make good points, as usual. |
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Papers schmapers, are you a collector, is it a collectable?
Then go for it
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papers are good but not essential, the watch is what matters.
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Good choice I love to have a YM
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That is overpriced. But the dealer has bricks and mortar as well as business rates to pay for. When buying Yacht-Masters it's all about the bezel, so inspect it with for any marks whatsoever.
My advice would be to go for Puffy's. That is almost a thousand pounds cheaper and you could have a mini GTG.
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You now have yourself one heck of a nice watch...congrats and enjoy!!!
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Well done on your deal! Enjoy the YM!
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Pics or it never happened.!;)
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well done , good health to wear it.
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Boxes and papers are important, but remember ... papers can be forged. You need to determine if the watch is original, but papers may not necessarily do that. So, I would insist that the seller allow you to have the watch authenticated within "x" number of days. If it's real and you elect to buy it, send it to Rolex for a full service and you should be good to go. Also, remember that the lack of papers should give you some haggling room for a price reduction ... I think $5K for a 5-6 year old YM w/o papers is high.
NOTE ... After writing the above, I realized I missed your post about purchasing it. Congratulations! |
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