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vimaljonn · 25 September 2012, 10:49 PM

Does anyone know what this model is, or what it is worth to buy? The back wouldn't latch shut. Has some scratches on the surface.

hutchman · 25 September 2012, 11:18 PM

It is one of the not so rare Pateks made in China. The fact that it has chrono pushers and no chronograph should make it pretty obvious that its fake!

tom2517 · 25 September 2012, 11:26 PM

Not even a good fake.

vimaljonn · 25 September 2012, 11:29 PM

Ha! I was wondering about the chronograph but thought may be it is an older model.
Thanks much for the help folks!!

FeelingTheBlues · 26 September 2012, 12:08 AM

This is absolute nonsense! The subdials don't even try to act like they can actually show you something!

Puffy · 26 September 2012, 12:11 AM

love the analogue year and date

"today kids - we're going to knock out a fake phillip patel, yeeeey!!"

Mosco · 26 September 2012, 11:16 AM

oh wow

Watchonisto · 26 September 2012, 06:46 PM

Cheap

vimaljonn · 28 September 2012, 04:20 AM

You guys rock! Thanks for identifying this for me!

That second picture exposes a jewel. Why do these guys go through so much trouble of doing that to a fake watch? Unless it is a cheap stone!! So that seller wants 1000 for this, no strap and the back wouldn't latch shut. Wow!

FeelingTheBlues · 28 September 2012, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by vimaljonn

You guys rock! Thanks for identifying this for me!

That second picture exposes a jewel. Why do these guys go through so much trouble of doing that to a fake watch? Unless it is a cheap stone!! So that seller wants 1000 for this, no strap and the back wouldn't latch shut. Wow!

It's a synthetic ruby, they're found in every single mechanical watch movement (or almost) as well as in a lot of quartz movements. In fact, even the real Patek watches have those so it cannot help you at all in the process of authenticating a watch.

perzbenz · 28 September 2012, 08:52 AM

Who is the seller that tried to sell this to you?

onkyo · 28 September 2012, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by perzbenz

Who is the seller that tried to sell this to you?

x2...... someone is trying to rip you off.

alxforschnr · 29 September 2012, 02:25 AM

How much are they asking?

FeelingTheBlues · 29 September 2012, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by alxforschnr

How much are they asking?

No matter the price, it's way too much!

T-Rip · 29 September 2012, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by alxforschnr

How much are they asking?

They should ask for a hammer!!

T-Rip · 29 September 2012, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by feelingtheblues

no matter the price, it's way too much!

x1000000000000000

vimaljonn · 29 September 2012, 04:38 AM

There's this pawn shop in Portsmouth NH. He posted on craigslist. Ok, never going to pawnshop for a used item. He wanted 1000 bucks for it.

FeelingTheBlues · 29 September 2012, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by vimaljonn

There's this pawn shop in Portsmouth NH. He posted on craigslist. Ok, never going to pawnshop for a used item. He wanted 1000 bucks for it.

As always, you must buy the buyer before the item.

Some Pawnshops can be good to deal with but clearly not this one, run away and never look at its ads again.

P.S.: Please allow me to give you a friendly advice and tell you that you will never (and I am willing to bet on this one)...ever...get an authentic and all original Patek Philippe under (at the very least) 4 000$ (and we would be talking about an old and very simple Calatrava in need of a service and perhaps a restoration that would cost you a lot), therefore you must never think about getting a timepiece that is supposed to have the sight of a complication (let alone a supposed to be perpetual calendar in this case) under 50k. Patek Philippe is one of the most well known and respected brands in the world of haute horlogerie, it should give you an idea of the price you should pay for one of their watches and it should be the very first thing you should look at in order to authenticate one of their models.

ICARO · 29 September 2012, 04:50 AM

May be this is one of the lousiest example of fake ever to be...buddy you need a lot of reading in this forum to learn at least the basics...

Ab Alta Cuncta

vimaljonn · 29 September 2012, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by FeelingTheBlues

As always, you must buy the buyer before the item.

Some Pawnshops can be good to deal with but clearly not this one, run away and never look at its ads again.

P.S.: Please allow me to give you a friendly advice and tell you that you will never (and I am willing to bet on this one)...ever...get an authentic and all original Patek Philippe under (at the very least) 4 000$ (and we would be talking about an old and very simple Calatrava in need of a service and perhaps a restoration that would cost you a lot), therefore you must never think about getting a timepiece that is supposed to have the sight of a complication (let alone a supposed to be perpetual calendar in this case) under 50k. Patek Philippe is one of the most well known and respected brands in the world of haute horlogerie, it should give you an idea of the price you should pay for one of their watches and it should be the very first thing you should look at in order to authenticate one of their models.

Thank you for the info! Yes apparently I do have some reading to do. I definitely can't spend more than 6G on a watch because if my wife finds out, I am dead. Well before all that, I'll need to teach myself a few things.

Dickson Lim · 29 September 2012, 06:25 AM

1k for PP = Mission impossible. The SS bracelet or the 18K clasp will cost more than that.

AmbSteve · 30 September 2012, 01:47 AM

Should have been posted in the Watchout! section from the start. Also, with that budget a PP is not within reach.

25 September 2012, 11:18 PM	#2
hutchman "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Real Name: Mike Watch: All things Patek Posts: 515	It is one of the not so rare Pateks made in China. The fact that it has chrono pushers and no chronograph should make it pretty obvious that its fake! __________________ "There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count, and those who can't" Warren Buffett

26 September 2012, 12:08 AM	#5
FeelingTheBlues "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Carl Location: Always moving Watch: If you wish... Posts: 22,039	This is absolute nonsense! The subdials don't even try to act like they can actually show you something! __________________ Mon corps c'est un pays en guerre sur l'point d'finir, Le général de l'armée de terre s'attend au pire, J'ai faim, j'ai frette, je suis trop faible pour me lever debout, On va hisser le drapeau blanc un point c'est tout. - André Fortin

26 September 2012, 12:11 AM	#6
Puffy "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 12,485	love the analogue year and date "today kids - we're going to knock out a fake phillip patel, yeeeey!!" __________________ Fine Quality is Long Remembered After the Pain of Spending Money is Forgotten

26 September 2012, 11:16 AM	#7
Mosco "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Greg Location: Cincinnati Watch: I like to... Posts: 18,567	oh wow __________________ Instagram - @CaliberSwiss *“A man who procrastinates in his choosing will inevitably have his choice made for him by circumstance.” - Hunter S. Thompson*

29 September 2012, 06:25 AM	#21
Dickson Lim "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: planet Posts: 1,517	1k for PP = Mission impossible. The SS bracelet or the 18K clasp will cost more than that. __________________ Dream the impossible, and make it possible!

25 September 2012, 11:26 PM	#3
tom2517 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Asia & US Posts: 1,551	Not even a good fake.

25 September 2012, 11:29 PM	#4
vimaljonn "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Portsmouth NH Posts: 99	Ha! I was wondering about the chronograph but thought may be it is an older model. Thanks much for the help folks!!

26 September 2012, 06:46 PM	#8
Watchonisto Banned Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Alex Location: European Union Watch: AP, ROLEX, PP, PAM Posts: 4,344	Cheap

28 September 2012, 04:20 AM	#9
vimaljonn "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Portsmouth NH Posts: 99	You guys rock! Thanks for identifying this for me! That second picture exposes a jewel. Why do these guys go through so much trouble of doing that to a fake watch? Unless it is a cheap stone!! So that seller wants 1000 for this, no strap and the back wouldn't latch shut. Wow!

28 September 2012, 08:52 AM	#11
perzbenz "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Orange County Posts: 26	Who is the seller that tried to sell this to you?

29 September 2012, 02:25 AM	#13
alxforschnr "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: Alex Location: NYC Watch: No batteries Posts: 248	How much are they asking?

29 September 2012, 04:38 AM	#17
vimaljonn "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Portsmouth NH Posts: 99	There's this pawn shop in Portsmouth NH. He posted on craigslist. Ok, never going to pawnshop for a used item. He wanted 1000 bucks for it.

29 September 2012, 04:50 AM	#19
ICARO Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Qatar/Spain Posts: 32	May be this is one of the lousiest example of fake ever to be...buddy you need a lot of reading in this forum to learn at least the basics... Ab Alta Cuncta

30 September 2012, 01:47 AM	#22
AmbSteve "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Steve Location: San Angelo, TX Watch: Rlx,Omega,JLC,Breg Posts: 1,699	Should have been posted in the Watchout! section from the start. Also, with that budget a PP is not within reach. __________________

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