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20 December 2007, 03:47 PM | #61 |
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Small technical detail. Carrying a .45 w/an empty chamber and hammer down... the safety is not functional and can not be engaged. Condition One is a legitimate and recognized mode of carry for the 1911 single action variants. This mode of carry doesn't apply to double action weapons such as the Beretta, Sig and others. Striker fire weapons like the Glock are a whole other animal. Each have their own unique states and levels of carry mode. Accidents w/guns are far more likely to be do to operator error than mechanical malfunctions. Example: Recent return from Iraq military man shoots and kills beautiful wife while practicing "quick draws" in preparation to join LE agency here in the states. Horrible and absolutely inexcusable operator error. Oops, sorry... didn't see all the pg2 posts. Back on topic...
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21 December 2007, 03:06 AM | #62 | |
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21 December 2007, 03:18 AM | #63 | |
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I'm not sure where you get your info, but accidental discharge in this situation is rare if the safety is on. And when did SPD start using .45 autos? I would've guessed Glock of Beretta. |
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26 December 2007, 03:58 AM | #64 |
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Did someone say toys???
I love my toys!!!!!
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28 December 2007, 09:24 AM | #65 |
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Love the walnut grips on your P230. I also believe that Series 80 and up 1911s have a firing pin block that prevents the firing pin from striking the chambered round unless the trigger is pulled. That is one reason that Series 70 models were preferred for competition matches until all the specialized 'combat event' guns came out in the 90s. Colt 1911 is still one of the finest service pistol designs ever made. My toys: Colt Delta Elite 10mm Auto Blued Steel Sig Sauer P230 9mm Kurz, 1923 Mauser Broomhandle 7.62mm Springfield Armory M1A 7.62mm NATO, Colt Delta HBAR 5.56mm I'll try and post some pics as well, I like this thread. |
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I can safely say that with a grip safety, a 1911 with a round chambered and the hammer back is as safe as a loaded Glock or revolver. Now as far as cops and accidental discharge is concerned, I've seen and heard quite a few Glock stories. It's amazing how many will draw their sidearm with their finger already inside the trigger guard. If you have a gun on you, or nearby you, there is no reason why a bullet shouldn't be in the chamber. No matter WHAT type of pistol/revolver. |
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3 January 2008, 05:47 AM | #67 |
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I would NEVER, under any circumstances keep a round chambered in a weapon. That is irresponsible bravado if you ask me. My buddy's roommate keeps his gun loaded and he's not allowed in my home or car until I'm quite sure his barrel is clear. I don't allow loaded firearms in either. Since I've had my permit I can count one one hand how many times I've taken my sidearm out of my home. Remember that a safety is mechanical device and it can fail.
I'm quite sure I'd hand over my Rolex before I'd draw on someone. It's easier to explain a lost Rolex than a bullet hole in someone. |
9 January 2008, 04:46 PM | #68 |
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I guess it depends on how you were raised and with what type of weapon. :shrug:
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I agree with you on this one. Unless the perpetrator is a threat to me or my family's life or well-being, I will just hand him the watch. I will not shoot a person over a watch. Besides, it's cheaper to replace a Rolex than to retain a good lawyer. Oh yeah, you will need a good lawyer if you shoot someone over a watch. |
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10 January 2008, 03:02 PM | #70 | |
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12 January 2008, 02:09 AM | #71 |
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Jbat: I'm not going to argue about this. You know I don't think cops are irresponsible so don't put words in my mouth.
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1911? Ok!
The hammer is cocked - but no chambered bullet... Don't know why, just the way it happened with the picture. |
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16 January 2008, 04:51 AM | #74 |
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is that a walter P-38?
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17 January 2008, 03:53 AM | #76 |
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Its a walther PPK/S stainless steel
shoots 380 or 9mm kurz. very accurate 7+1 Compact enough to fit in your pocket. Fun to shoot. Safety and de cocker lever. Looks great in my opinion. With hollow points and a good strong load this is a very lethal weapon. Another shot: |
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