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Old 5 December 2013, 01:43 AM   #1
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Need some help on a 1675

I'm looking to the experts here. I've exhausted my research and haven't found any conclusive answers.

I'm interested in a 1675 with a serial bringing it to 1960. It's got all the hallmarks of being original (chapter ring, small GMT hand, PCG, etc), EXCEPT it has a brown bezel. It's a stainless steel version and I'm just not convinced the bezel is original, despite the seller's claim.

Does anyone have strong info on the bezel variants on 1675's in that timeframe? I think that style of 1675 lasted until 1964.

Thanks!!!
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Old 5 December 2013, 01:58 AM   #2
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I'm looking to the experts here. I've exhausted my research and haven't found any conclusive answers.

I'm interested in a 1675 with a serial bringing it to 1960. It's got all the hallmarks of being original (chapter ring, small GMT hand, PCG, etc), EXCEPT it has a brown bezel. It's a stainless steel version and I'm just not convinced the bezel is original, despite the seller's claim.

Does anyone have strong info on the bezel variants on 1675's in that timeframe? I think that style of 1675 lasted until 1964.

Thanks!!!
Your suspicions are correct. Inserts were blue/red only. Black inserts were introduced several years later.
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Old 5 December 2013, 02:15 AM   #3
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Thanks, springer, had a feeling you might respond.

As a follow-on, how much of an impact would it have on value? Assuming all else is original and it's in working condition. I'm not asking for a specific number, just in general. Thank you!

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Old 5 December 2013, 05:23 AM   #4
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I'm looking to the experts here. I've exhausted my research and haven't found any conclusive answers.

I'm interested in a 1675 with a serial bringing it to 1960. It's got all the hallmarks of being original (chapter ring, small GMT hand, PCG, etc), EXCEPT it has a brown bezel. It's a stainless steel version and I'm just not convinced the bezel is original, despite the seller's claim.

Does anyone have strong info on the bezel variants on 1675's in that timeframe? I think that style of 1675 lasted until 1964.

Thanks!!!
A pic would certainly help....but if the watch is a nice example, why let an insert stop you? (Assuming everything else checks out) GMT inserts are quite abundant....not like you are trying to source a red triangle sub insert or an all blue GMT insert....
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Old 5 December 2013, 06:10 AM   #5
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I agree not original. I also agree that might not be a deal breaker. I wonder if it might be a faded brown insert from an early 1675/8. I bet that might look pretty cool.
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My first thought was it might be a faded brown insert from a gold one. Pics would be great!
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Old 5 December 2013, 07:14 AM   #7
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No pics yet, sorry. But yes, it must be a bezel from the 1675/8, and it looks cool as shit with the tropical dial.
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Old 5 December 2013, 07:22 AM   #8
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sounds like a nice example. i would def post pics before you buy. You can get some great help on here.
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Old 5 December 2013, 07:23 AM   #9
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No pics yet, sorry. But yes, it must be a bezel from the 1675/8, and it looks cool as shit with the tropical dial.
So definitely not "original to the watch", but if the dial is tropical, a brown fat font insert is the way to go It is much harder to find a nice brown/silver GMT insert than a pepsi IMO. I would know!!

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Nice Rick. I was hoping to see something like that posted.
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Old 5 December 2013, 09:48 AM   #11
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So definitely not "original to the watch", but if the dial is tropical, a brown fat font insert is the way to go It is much harder to find a nice brown/silver GMT insert than a pepsi IMO. I would know!!

i knew this was coming Such a great watch. I love unique pieces like this. Something you will never see with ceramics. Yet another reason to love vintage.
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Old 5 December 2013, 11:34 AM   #12
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Nice Rick. I was hoping to see something like that posted.
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i knew this was coming Such a great watch. I love unique pieces like this. Something you will never see with ceramics. Yet another reason to love vintage.
Thanks guys!! Happy humpday! And - I totally agree....vintage all the way!
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Old 5 December 2013, 11:57 AM   #13
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Rick, that thing is a beauty! That's exactly the bezel. Your piece has aged really well.
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Old 6 December 2013, 11:03 AM   #14
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Rick, that thing is a beauty! That's exactly the bezel. Your piece has aged really well.
Thanks Shane! Any pics yet??
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I agree not original. I also agree that might not be a deal breaker. I wonder if it might be a faded brown insert from an early 1675/8. I bet that might look pretty cool.
X2. I've seen the brown inserts on the tropical/brown dials and it looked very nice. As far as value, it shouldn't be a factor at all. Source a correct insert and you are in business.
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Old 7 December 2013, 01:54 AM   #16
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+1, I'd never let a bezel insert be a deal breaker if the price was right!
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