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newshawnee · 15 April 2014, 03:14 AM

Hello,

I am a new member. I know little or noting about watches. I inherited a Tudor watch, its been in the family for 4 decades. But the dial looks wrong to me. Is this a fake from the 1960's? Was told it was bought in france. No steel band. serial number 756029. Specifically the word "220m" on the dial looks wrong. Shouldn't it be 200m? As 220m = 721ft, not 660. I have looked on the net, no other Tudor has 220m. Please tell me if its real or replica. Thanks you in advance. See picture.

Urosfan · 15 April 2014, 04:36 AM

Welcome

Cc1966 · 15 April 2014, 05:47 AM

Welcome aboard. Post your question in the "WATCHOUT!" section here at TRF.

sea-dweller · 15 April 2014, 12:14 PM

Welcome!

Hairdude1 · 15 April 2014, 01:27 PM

Welcome

drifter01 · 15 April 2014, 02:09 PM

So... you're told it was fake in one thread, so you start another thread asking the same question?

newshawnee · 15 April 2014, 02:39 PM

I posted it in this thread as the other one (on "watch out") had 138 views without any responses. Not one. Figured maybe in the "new member" thread people might be more responsive to me as someone who just signed up. I really appreciate people's insite as I hate to be tricked, and a fake is nothing more than that. Aren't there laws against making fakes and shouldn't the FTC be strongly prosecuting those frauds? It a form of theft from the honest manufactures too.

Old Expat Beast · 15 April 2014, 03:04 PM

It's fake, as you probably know.

newshawnee · 15 April 2014, 04:39 PM

yes fake. Which is interesting given that the previous owner always passed it off as authentic. The things you learn after people have passed away..... wonder how it will stand up to a direct hit with a sledgehammer tomorrow?

waQstar · 15 April 2014, 05:09 PM

Poor sledge hammer..

AbsolutelyROLEX! · 16 April 2014, 12:50 AM

very fake, for the garbage bin!

newshawnee · 16 April 2014, 04:37 AM

the thread "please verify if this is a real tudor watch" has pictures I took today of the serial number and model number too. Just before the sledgehammer came out. Hope it wasn't real.

Wesley Crusher · 16 April 2014, 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newshawnee

yes fake. Which is interesting given that the previous owner always passed it off as authentic. The things you learn after people have passed away..... wonder how it will stand up to a direct hit with a sledgehammer tomorrow?

Film it and upload it to youtube.

Welshwatchman · 16 April 2014, 05:33 AM

40 years in the family?

Sure.

newshawnee · 16 April 2014, 08:18 AM

really it was owned 40 years by the same person, unless someone switched watches with him at some point, he owns a lot of very expensive ones (with receipts and boxes and all records). so this was a surprise

77T · 16 April 2014, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wesley Crusher

Film it and upload it to youtube.

Yep, pics or it didn't happen...

newshawnee · 16 April 2014, 12:30 PM

I did get the watch going and the second hand seemed to move about 4 equal jumps as it moves to the next "second marker". Kinda weird looking. And the winder screw feel off. That's probably a dead giveaway? I never found any other Submariners with a "220m" on the dial. I like the style and look forward to getting a verified 100% correct one someday. Till then my Tissot works for me. Its real. Bought at a auth dealer.

newshawnee · 16 April 2014, 12:34 PM

Its really too bad there are fake watches. It ruins the fun of ownership and so many people must get ripped off each day buying fakes. I saw a bunch of fake Tudor Submariners like mine on Google searches. Prices $68 to $190. And the look so real to a guy like me that knows really nothing about watches. From now on I buy only at authorized dealers. That should be safe right?

drifter01 · 16 April 2014, 12:35 PM

Crown coming off isn't a "giveaway". Crowns can unscrew and come off of any watch, regardless of maker or price. Like they say in Breakfast Club..."The world is an imperfect place, screws fall out all the time".

newshawnee · 18 April 2014, 02:08 AM

Was verified by Rolex people as a fake. Thanks everyone for your input.

15 April 2014, 05:47 AM	#3
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15 April 2014, 02:09 PM	#6
drifter01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Real Name: Dave Location: NC Watch: 5500 Air-King Posts: 633	So... you're told it was fake in one thread, so you start another thread asking the same question? __________________ Dave Ace of Clubs "Never mind the track. The track is for punks. We are Road People. We are Cafe Racers." - Hunter S. Thompson

15 April 2014, 05:09 PM	#10
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16 April 2014, 12:50 AM	#11
AbsolutelyROLEX! "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Andy Location: Ontario, Canada Watch: AKA: ANDERL712000 Posts: 4,935	very fake, for the garbage bin! __________________ We want to be the first in the field and Rolex should be seen as the one and only-the best. Hans Wilsdorf, Rolex founder

16 April 2014, 12:34 PM	#18
newshawnee Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Missouri Watch: Tissot Posts: 23	Its really too bad there are fake watches. It ruins the fun of ownership and so many people must get ripped off each day buying fakes. I saw a bunch of fake Tudor Submariners like mine on Google searches. Prices $68 to $190. And the look so real to a guy like me that knows really nothing about watches. From now on I buy only at authorized dealers. That should be safe right? Last edited by newshawnee; 16 April 2014 at 12:35 PM.. Reason: added sentence

15 April 2014, 04:36 AM	#2
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15 April 2014, 02:39 PM	#7
newshawnee Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Missouri Watch: Tissot Posts: 23	I posted it in this thread as the other one (on "watch out") had 138 views without any responses. Not one. Figured maybe in the "new member" thread people might be more responsive to me as someone who just signed up. I really appreciate people's insite as I hate to be tricked, and a fake is nothing more than that. Aren't there laws against making fakes and shouldn't the FTC be strongly prosecuting those frauds? It a form of theft from the honest manufactures too.

15 April 2014, 03:04 PM	#8
Old Expat Beast TRF Moderator & 2024 SUBMARINER Patron Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Adam Location: Far East Watch: SEIKO TUNA Posts: 28,556	It's fake, as you probably know.

15 April 2014, 04:39 PM	#9
newshawnee Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Missouri Watch: Tissot Posts: 23	yes fake. Which is interesting given that the previous owner always passed it off as authentic. The things you learn after people have passed away..... wonder how it will stand up to a direct hit with a sledgehammer tomorrow?

16 April 2014, 04:37 AM	#12
newshawnee Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Missouri Watch: Tissot Posts: 23	the thread "please verify if this is a real tudor watch" has pictures I took today of the serial number and model number too. Just before the sledgehammer came out. Hope it wasn't real.

16 April 2014, 05:33 AM	#14
Welshwatchman "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Paul Location: Wales, UK Posts: 14,578	40 years in the family? Sure.

16 April 2014, 08:18 AM	#15
newshawnee Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Missouri Watch: Tissot Posts: 23	really it was owned 40 years by the same person, unless someone switched watches with him at some point, he owns a lot of very expensive ones (with receipts and boxes and all records). so this was a surprise

16 April 2014, 12:30 PM	#17
newshawnee Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Missouri Watch: Tissot Posts: 23	I did get the watch going and the second hand seemed to move about 4 equal jumps as it moves to the next "second marker". Kinda weird looking. And the winder screw feel off. That's probably a dead giveaway? I never found any other Submariners with a "220m" on the dial. I like the style and look forward to getting a verified 100% correct one someday. Till then my Tissot works for me. Its real. Bought at a auth dealer.

16 April 2014, 12:35 PM	#19
drifter01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Real Name: Dave Location: NC Watch: 5500 Air-King Posts: 633	Crown coming off isn't a "giveaway". Crowns can unscrew and come off of any watch, regardless of maker or price. Like they say in Breakfast Club..."The world is an imperfect place, screws fall out all the time". __________________ Dave Ace of Clubs "Never mind the track. The track is for punks. We are Road People. We are Cafe Racers." - Hunter S. Thompson

18 April 2014, 02:08 AM	#20
newshawnee Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Missouri Watch: Tissot Posts: 23	Was verified by Rolex people as a fake. Thanks everyone for your input.

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