1938 Rolex Oyster "Centregraph" Chronometre,

[Gottabgibbs]

Any information appreciated I have a Rolex Oyster "Centregraph" Chronometre, 18J Ref. 3462 made in 1938, produced in stainless steel only. Less than 50 examples were produced Extremely rare, waterproof, center second, stainless steel gentleman's wristwatch with single round button chronograph. Serial Number: 121400 considering having it restored or parting with it.

[nickb732]

Pictures?

[padi56]

Originally Posted by Gottabgibbs

Any information appreciated I have a Rolex Oyster "Centregraph" Chronometre, 18J Ref. 3462 made in 1938, produced in stainless steel only. Less than 50 examples were produced Extremely rare, waterproof, center second, stainless steel gentleman's wristwatch with single round button chronograph. Serial Number: 121400 considering having it restored or parting with it.

Post a picture of your watch and its not a Chronometer tested watch its a Observatory tested watch and yes they are rare.

[crowncollection]

Pics 😊


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[elohtee]

Sorry to post a link but I'm assuming OP's referring to this...?

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Rolex-Oyster-...0b61fda&_uhb=1

[adam78]

That might be a very difficult restoration. Looks like the pusher and the assembly for the chronograph are both missing. It should look something like this I think (a pic of the rare Zerograph).



This is the movement of the watch in question (from the auction):

[Gottabgibbs]

I took better pictures and it said Chronometer on the movement and the dial. Thank you for the information.
http://http://www.ebay.com/itm/390840783495?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p39 84.m1555.l2649

[Kingair]

Looks like a totaly different movement

17 and 18 rubbies . . .

HAGOne

[adam78]

Yes, it's very possible a non-chronograph movement was switched out at some point, when the pusher was removed.

[R.W.T.]

It's totally the same base movement. Calibre 700 10.5 Hunter.

It is just missing the chronograph parts.

Note the cut out below the click for the pusher and chrono mech.
Also the bridge screw on the barrel bridge above the detent screw but below the dial foot to hold the chrono trip bridge. Also the chrono mech mounting screw above the click.
Same era super balance. Same era single bottom mount screw cap jewel on the escape wheel. This happens to be a Chronometer version and contains 18 jewels.

Either this movement at one time had that very same apparatus attached or someone went to a LOT of trouble to make you think so.

[Mark020]

Because of the Rarity significance and importance, these types of watches are almost never seen and almost never offered for sale here is your chance to own one. Restored this watch would sell for upwards of $20,000 to $35,000 and up, do your homework.

:-)

[adam78]

Originally Posted by R.W.T.

It's totally the same base movement. Calibre 700 10.5 Hunter.

It is just missing the chronograph parts.

Note the cut out below the click for the pusher and chrono mech.
Also the bridge screw on the barrel bridge above the detent screw but below the dial foot to hold the chrono trip bridge. Also the chrono mech mounting screw above the click.
Same era super balance. Same era single bottom mount screw cap jewel on the escape wheel. This happens to be a Chronometer version and contains 18 jewels.

Either this movement at one time had that very same apparatus attached or someone went to a LOT of trouble to make you think so.

OK, what he said!

[R.W.T.]

"Because of the Rarity significance and importance, these types of watches are almost never seen and almost never offered for sale here is your chance to own one. Restored this watch would sell for upwards of $20,000 to $35,000 and up, do your homework."


I wish anyone good luck finding the parts to make that whole again.

You would have better luck finding genuine parts for a 6062 moonphase module...

[Gottabgibbs]

I have had it checked out Its real and authentic as it was produced in 1938. its the correct movement for the case, the crystal is not original to the watch and will need replaced like I said it needs some parts and a restoration, just need to find the right person to own it. I have one small reduction gear in a plastic bag that goes with this movement. Thank you for all the comments and the help.

[Mark020]

So somebody (you?) has a 20k watch and sells it for 6.5k just because it lacks some parts? Interesting concept.

[Mark020]

Did some research. Interesting watch.

2 sisters albeit with different dials:


Similar caseback:

Close references:

[Gottabgibbs]

The only reason why I am selling it is to help a family member that has health issues. It would make a collector or an investor a good buy don't you think so? Thank you for all your research MarK020 and others link to the watch:http://m.ebay.com/itm?itemId=390840783495

[adam78]

It's really difficult to tell what it might be worth in its present condition. If complete, not so much a problem. GLWTS!

[R.W.T.]

It's the parts...they don't exist...You would have to have a willing watch maker with the skills to make all the parts and an identical watch to use for models....

If you have ANY of the parts you need to show them. It makes a HUGE difference.

Can you photograph both sides of the reduction gear?

[Gottabgibbs]

PM me give me your email I will send picture I have trouble uploading pics to this site.

[Gottabgibbs]

Since there are patents there must be detailed blue prints schematics and designs on the parts somewhere.

[R.W.T.]

Well patents...noted inside the caseback don't really mean for that watch specifically.

[Mark020]

Originally Posted by Gottabgibbs

The only reason why I am selling it is to help a family member that has health issues. It would make a collector or an investor a good buy don't you think so? Thank you for all your research MarK020 and others link to the watch:http://m.ebay.com/itm?itemId=390840783495

Ok

A good buy? Not really: as stated you need loads of impossible to find parts. Price you ask now is about right.