DRSD Case Back Puzzle

[exador]

Hi Guys, looking at a DSRD for sale. Serial 528**** which ties up with a MKIV dial. Looks OK from the front, but what's with the case back? Can't obtain a better photo at the moment but obviously not correct for this model.

• Does anyone recognise the case back?
• What are the chances of it having been replaced at some stage?
• Is the whole watch fake?

[exador]

OK, so it seems that the caseback is the type used for the later 16600 model. Was there a transition period where the two were combined?

[U5512]

Wrong caseback for this DRSD.

[exador]

Originally Posted by U5512

Wrong caseback for this DRSD.

Suspect it may be a service replacement now. What would this do to the value of the watch?

[Daytonaman799]

walk away

[scooba]

Wrong Back . The back on MK4s are similar to 1665 Great Whites but have the serial number pressed into them as well as the date , Hope this helps

[steptoe]

Originally Posted by exador

OK, so it seems that the caseback is the type used for the later 16600 model. Was there a transition period where the two were combined?

Yes.

[exador]

Originally Posted by steptoe

Yes.

So you think the watch is legit then?

[steptoe]

Originally Posted by exador

So you think the watch is legit then?

Haven't a clue just by looking at the pictures, my opinion would just be nothing more than a guess.

I said "yes" as a reply to the question you asked concerning the overlapping casebacks, as i quoted in my previous post.

Any numbers are inside the caseback and not on show on the outside.

[omitohud]

Originally Posted by exador

OK, so it seems that the caseback is the type used for the later 16600 model. Was there a transition period where the two were combined?

I believe that one is the 1665 GW caseback not later. There was a transition period but debatable. For it to be legit drsd, it has to have the serial engraved inside caseback. Hope this helps. Personally i would prefer rolex across caseback fir drsd just to be safe.


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[steptoe]

Originally Posted by omitohud

. There was a transition period but debatable.

It's not debatable. There was a transitional period caseback.

[exador]

I understand that this is the transitional:



While this is the 16600 version (which the watch above appears to sport):

[omitohud]

Ah I see. There is no way a drsd would b fitted with the second caseback unless its a service replacement. I would stay away from such a watch unless its a real bargain. Its probably impossible to find the original caseback with matching serial.


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[marcello pisani]

Originally Posted by omitohud

Ah I see. There is no way a drsd would b fitted with the second caseback unless its a service replacement. I would stay away from such a watch unless its a real bargain. Its probably impossible to find the original caseback with matching serial.


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these 1665 with DR dial but " white style " back usually have no case number engraved in the back inside .. so you should " just " ( LOL LOL ) have to find a standard " white 1665 " back.
check also if the case is a service one ...

[omitohud]

Originally Posted by marcello pisani

these 1665 with DR dial but " white style " back usually have no case number engraved in the back inside .. so you should " just " ( LOL LOL ) have to find a standard " white 1665 " back.

check also if the case is a service one ...

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[exador]

So got this additional photo from the seller. At least the bracelet is correct!

[Vincent65]

and it's not correct ^^ the correct transitional one is as per above example taken from doubleredseadweller.com

[U5512]

Originally Posted by steptoe

It's not debatable. There was a transitional period caseback.

True, there is a transitional caseback for the SD. However, the caseback presented here ISN'T a transition caseback. I REPEAT the caseback presented here isn't transitional. I hope you're NOT saying the caseback as presented in here by the original poster (OP) is correct for the watch!!!

[exador]

Just found this auction for a 1665:

"The case back features the transitional Mk4 version with 'Original Gas Escape Valve' printed to the outer as found on the 16660 launched in 1985 but retains the 1665 inner stamp with the word 'Patented' removed"

http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/16094/lot/205/

Also this:

http://www.chrono-shop.net/en/case-a...acl-neuf-.html

[marcello pisani]

no the case back is a later replacement for a watch with 5.2 case range !
the case in http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/16094/lot/205/ might be the pristine for a 8.0 watch .. as there is a difference of some years.

[exador]

OK so I guess we've established that the case back is a later replacement, thanks. How much will this affect the value?

[aaamax]

There is a reason the caseback was replaced... Why? Before you even consider buting this one, you MUST have a look inside. There could be allllll sorts of gremlins hiding in there. Water anyone??? loving you some rust?
Good luck.

[marcello pisani]

once again ( I answer only in this forum .. LOL LOL LOL ) : better check if also the middle case is the pristine or a service one ( not all replacement cases have a new case number ).

[Vincent65]

Originally Posted by marcello pisani

once again ( I answer only in this forum .. LOL LOL LOL ) : better check if also the middle case is the pristine or a service one ( not all replacement cases have a new case number ).

Yes, it does look very sharp!

[steptoe]

Originally Posted by U5512

True, there is a transitional caseback for the SD. However, the caseback presented here ISN'T a transition caseback. I REPEAT the caseback presented here isn't transitional. I hope you're NOT saying the caseback as presented in here by the original poster (OP) is correct for the watch!!!

Nope.

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[watchcrank]

If you have to explain a watch I'd avoid unless very cheap (parts value). Good advice here.
M

[exador]

Watch sold for $11,000USD. Good luck to the buyer.

[aaamax]

Originally Posted by exador

Watch sold for $11,000USD. Good luck to the buyer.

oh my.