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Doc Strange · 4 January 2015, 08:40 AM

I'm interested in this sub. I love the matte dial with open markers.
But I'd like to make sure in not getting beaten up.
The band is marked 93150, which I think is appropriate.
The ends are 593, also appropriate, I think.
The serial is 803xxxx and the movement is a 3035.
The open 6 is, I believe, correct for the period.
As best as I can tell, the thick font on the insert is correct, too.
The date is not quick-set.
It winds nice and smooth.
It doesn't show in my photos but the bottom of the face around the 6 has tiny scrapes.
Any reason this watch is doubtable? I am able to get it for 5k with no information about its history. The case seems a little beat up but nothing frightening.
Experts? What am I missing here? Is there anything that doesn't seem original on this watch? Is the low price just a reflection of the beating the case has taken and the soft market for this model?

Haywood_Milton · 4 January 2015, 09:06 AM

Should be quick-set : turn the crown anti-clockwise in the mid-position. 3035 is a quick-set movement; 16610 brought the 3135 calibre which is also quick-set but you turn the crown the other way to change the date.

Dial looks original.

Is it the dial or the glass which is marked at 6 ? Glass would be the better of the two, as it can be replaced easily if you wish in due course.

Quite a common watch so if in doubt, hold out. Patience will definitely find you alternative watches to choose from.

Don't know the US market but $5k won't be a million miles away - impossible for anyone to be too sure without seeing more details.

Haywood Milton, UK

stmoore · 4 January 2015, 09:12 AM

I'd likely pass due to the chipping you mentioned at the bottom of the dial. I am able to see it quite clearly.

Spend some time searching. A nicer one will come up.

By the way, the 16800 is my favorite Submariner. : )

Limey- · 4 January 2015, 11:25 AM

There was a head only version on WUS for about 3200 just about a month ago.
The value is to a large extent in the dial and this one is damaged. It's overpriced.

Doc Strange · 4 January 2015, 11:57 PM

^thanks to all.
I get eager when I pass by a watch in a window, even if I've walked by it 20 times before.

4 January 2015, 08:40 AM	#1
Doc Strange "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: NYC Posts: 49	Advice from the wise about this 16800 please. I'm interested in this sub. I love the matte dial with open markers. But I'd like to make sure in not getting beaten up. The band is marked 93150, which I think is appropriate. The ends are 593, also appropriate, I think. The serial is 803xxxx and the movement is a 3035. The open 6 is, I believe, correct for the period. As best as I can tell, the thick font on the insert is correct, too. The date is not quick-set. It winds nice and smooth. It doesn't show in my photos but the bottom of the face around the 6 has tiny scrapes. Any reason this watch is doubtable? I am able to get it for 5k with no information about its history. The case seems a little beat up but nothing frightening. Experts? What am I missing here? Is there anything that doesn't seem original on this watch? Is the low price just a reflection of the beating the case has taken and the soft market for this model?

4 January 2015, 09:06 AM	#2
Haywood_Milton "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: Yes, it is ! Location: Cheshire & Mersey Watch: Military issue Sub Posts: 1,329	Should be quick-set : turn the crown anti-clockwise in the mid-position. 3035 is a quick-set movement; 16610 brought the 3135 calibre which is also quick-set but you turn the crown the other way to change the date. Dial looks original. Is it the dial or the glass which is marked at 6 ? Glass would be the better of the two, as it can be replaced easily if you wish in due course. Quite a common watch so if in doubt, hold out. Patience will definitely find you alternative watches to choose from. Don't know the US market but $5k won't be a million miles away - impossible for anyone to be too sure without seeing more details. Haywood Milton, UK

4 January 2015, 09:12 AM	#3
stmoore Banned Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: US Watch: Gilt Posts: 1,592	I'd likely pass due to the chipping you mentioned at the bottom of the dial. I am able to see it quite clearly. Spend some time searching. A nicer one will come up. By the way, the 16800 is my favorite Submariner. : )

4 January 2015, 11:25 AM	#4
Limey- "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: Nick Location: WA Watch: Your Six Posts: 476	There was a head only version on WUS for about 3200 just about a month ago. The value is to a large extent in the dial and this one is damaged. It's overpriced.

4 January 2015, 11:57 PM	#5
Doc Strange "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: NYC Posts: 49	^thanks to all. I get eager when I pass by a watch in a window, even if I've walked by it 20 times before.

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