Vintage Tudor from an Italian Seller

[stxfan10]

I found the below Tudor Sub 79090 from the 1980s on Chrono24.

http://www.chrono24.com/en/tudor/pri...ch%2Findex.htm

Like any other online source I am trying to buy the vendor, not just the watch.
Based on the website below they appear to be a legit purveyor of fine time pieces with a brick and mortar store in Bologna, Italy.

http://www.mariobaroncini.com/site/orologi.php

I have communicated several times with the seller via email and they seem to speak decent English.
They offer payment via PayPal and a 2 year service warranty, so there is a bit of protection in case the watch isn't as anticipated.

Does anyone have any experience purchasing watches from European sellers via Chrono24 or a similar site?
Anything else to watch for during the process?

Thank you for the advice.

[Tudor Guy]

I don't know the seller, but that is a lot of money. Looks like a nice watch.

[MATCH1969]

Italian grey dealer market is huge and there are a lot of well known experts.

Now, always difficult to be 100% sure of the quality of the watch as soon as you cannot see it in real.

Always ask for extra pictures of the movment for example.

Good luck

[Lgear080]

Watch is ok, but find a local one. Price is meh.

[Old Expat Beast]

Price is ok, but no bargain. Not worth the risk, IMO. Try HQ Milton.

[Wesley Crusher]

If Tudor import laws are the same as Rolex, I'd think twice before buying one from outside of the USA. It could be seized at customs. Just FYI.

[JohnAndrew]

Originally Posted by Wesley Crusher

If Tudor import laws are the same as Rolex, I'd think twice before buying one from outside of the USA. It could be seized at customs. Just FYI.

I've purchased four Tudors from outside the US with no issues, when they were shipped here.

[stxfan10]

Unfortunately it seems there haven't been many true deals on Tudor Subs recently.

HQ Milton had one for sale last week, but it sold in less than a day.
It was selling with box and papers, though it was still priced at $3600.

http://www.hqmilton.com/watches/1995...box-and-papers

The only ones on EBay are buy it now for $3500+

I'll just have to be patient.

[Fabrice M]

I doubt very much that there is a "tudor" or "rolex" import law that was actually presented or passed by congress... I am sure it would have been all over the news, no to say Rolex doesn't have that type of power. Maybe a little bit of an urban legend mixed with some real facts. Anyways, I actually did a little bit of research all one need to do is go to the source: the U.S custom website.

There is nothing about Rolex in particular, However the custom and border protection office does enforce "trademarked and Copyrighted articles". It's not against the law to bring a Rolex bought elsewhere, it is against the law to bring in a fake rolex in the U.S. So it you bought a Rolex elsewhere, have the papers that proves it's not a fake and I believe if it's over 10K, you need to declare it. I would imagine that If you buy a watch from overseas, it needs to come with the papers when shipped as well. There are trades agreement between countries, and I assure you Rolex doesn't have a "special exemption" to them. Vintage watches may be exempt from taxation. I know antiques and art work are.


The watch looks nice and the price seems right.

Disclaimer: This is not legal advice, and I am not a lawyer. If you need legal advice contact a licensed attorney in your jurisdiction.

[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by Fabrice M

I doubt very much that there is a "tudor" or "rolex" import law that was actually presented or passed by congress... I am sure it would have been all over the news, no to say Rolex doesn't have that type of power. Maybe a little bit of an urban legend mixed with some real facts. Anyways, I actually did a little bit of research all one need to do is go to the source: the U.S custom website.

There is nothing about Rolex in particular, However the custom and border protection office does enforce "trademarked and Copyrighted articles". It's not against the law to bring a Rolex bought elsewhere, it is against the law to bring in a fake rolex in the U.S. So it you bought a Rolex elsewhere, have the papers that proves it's not a fake and I believe if it's over 10K, you need to declare it. I would imagine that If you buy a watch from overseas, it needs to come with the papers when shipped as well. There are trades agreement between countries, and I assure you Rolex doesn't have a "special exemption" to them. Vintage watches may be exempt from taxation. I know antiques and art work are.


The watch looks nice and the price seems right.

Disclaimer: This is not legal advice, and I am not a lawyer. If you need legal advice contact a licensed attorney in your jurisdiction.

Seen this? http://www.crownandcaliber.com/watch...united-states/

[stxfan10]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

Price is ok, but no bargain. Not worth the risk, IMO. Try HQ Milton.

They had a mid nineties for sale last week but it sold in less than a day.
It had the box and papers, though they were asking $3600 including shipping and insurance.

http://www.hqmilton.com/watches/1995...box-and-papers

Seems like finding deals on Tudor subs is tough today

[crowncollection]

Originally Posted by Fabrice M

I doubt very much that there is a "tudor" or "rolex" import law that was actually presented or passed by congress... I am sure it would have been all over the news, no to say Rolex doesn't have that type of power. Maybe a little bit of an urban legend mixed with some real facts. Anyways, I actually did a little bit of research all one need to do is go to the source: the U.S custom website.

There is nothing about Rolex in particular, However the custom and border protection office does enforce "trademarked and Copyrighted articles". It's not against the law to bring a Rolex bought elsewhere, it is against the law to bring in a fake rolex in the U.S. So it you bought a Rolex elsewhere, have the papers that proves it's not a fake and I believe if it's over 10K, you need to declare it. I would imagine that If you buy a watch from overseas, it needs to come with the papers when shipped as well. There are trades agreement between countries, and I assure you Rolex doesn't have a "special exemption" to them. Vintage watches may be exempt from taxation. I know antiques and art work are.


The watch looks nice and the price seems right.

Disclaimer: This is not legal advice, and I am not a lawyer. If you need legal advice contact a licensed attorney in your jurisdiction.

This has been discussed extensively you cannot import by post, only one watch on the wrist.

[TudorSnowflake]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

Try HQ Milton.

They appear to install newer bits on their watches and don't disclose it.

Beware.

I found mine on eBay.

Beware x5 there.

[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by TudorSnowflake

They appear to install newer bits on their watches and don't disclose it.

Beware.

I found mine on eBay.

Beware x5 there.

Care to explain further? That's a pretty serious allegation.

[MonBK]

Originally Posted by Fabrice M

I doubt very much that there is a "tudor" or "rolex" import law that was actually presented or passed by congress... I am sure it would have been all over the news, no to say Rolex doesn't have that type of power. Maybe a little bit of an urban legend mixed with some real facts. Anyways, I actually did a little bit of research all one need to do is go to the source: the U.S custom website.

There is nothing about Rolex in particular, However the custom and border protection office does enforce "trademarked and Copyrighted articles". It's not against the law to bring a Rolex bought elsewhere, it is against the law to bring in a fake rolex in the U.S. So it you bought a Rolex elsewhere, have the papers that proves it's not a fake and I believe if it's over 10K, you need to declare it. I would imagine that If you buy a watch from overseas, it needs to come with the papers when shipped as well. There are trades agreement between countries, and I assure you Rolex doesn't have a "special exemption" to them. Vintage watches may be exempt from taxation. I know antiques and art work are.


The watch looks nice and the price seems right.

Disclaimer: This is not legal advice, and I am not a lawyer. If you need legal advice contact a licensed attorney in your jurisdiction.

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