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Syed117 · 6 June 2015, 12:59 AM

Someone brought this up yesterday, but they titled the thread incorrectly. I've been wondering this for a few days, and I think this is the right place to ask.

I'm not sure where I picked the habit up, but I always put a mechanical watch to my ear to hear if it is working. Yes, I can clearly see the seconds hand ticking away and I don't really know why I do it.

So when my father got his new Submariner last week, I did the same thing. I couldn't hear it. I had to go into a quiet room and focus on the sound to hear the movement.

I've been wondering why that is? Every other mechanical watch I've ever handled (other than modern a modern Rolex) has been easy to hear.

Is this something more specific to the divers and the way they are sealed? Or do all modern Rolex watches have this muted sound from inside the case? I don't think the sales people at an AD would be thrilled I stopped by and started putting all their watches to my ears.

Is there a difference in resonance between 316 and 904 steel? Do the thicker diver crystals make the difference?

I personally like being able to hear the movement, but in theory, it seems it's better if I can't.

I'm sure this doesn't warrant this level of discussion, but it's been at the back of my mind for a few days and there's no better place to ask.

Abdullah71601 · 6 June 2015, 01:37 AM

I can hear the movement in my Milgauss, which has a metal mag shield, about as well as my Explorer. I don't know, but I wouldn't think a thicker crystal would be more sound absorbing than the Milgauss shield.

padi56 · 6 June 2015, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Syed117

Someone brought this up yesterday, but they titled the thread incorrectly. I've been wondering this for a few days, and I think this is the right place to ask.

I'm not sure where I picked the habit up, but I always put a mechanical watch to my ear to hear if it is working. Yes, I can clearly see the seconds hand ticking away and I don't really know why I do it.

So when my father got his new Submariner last week, I did the same thing. I couldn't hear it. I had to go into a quiet room and focus on the sound to hear the movement.

I've been wondering why that is? Every other mechanical watch I've ever handled (other than modern a modern Rolex) has been easy to hear.

Is this something more specific to the divers and the way they are sealed? Or do all modern Rolex watches have this muted sound from inside the case? I don't think the sales people at an AD would be thrilled I stopped by and started putting all their watches to my ears.

Is there a difference in resonance between 316 and 904 steel? Do the thicker diver crystals make the difference?

I personally like being able to hear the movement, but in theory, it seems it's better if I can't.

I'm sure this doesn't warrant this level of discussion, but it's been at the back of my mind for a few days and there's no better place to ask.

The only difference in the sound of any modern day movement that beats at 28800 BPH,would be simply this. The size thickness of the case/crystal, the amount of space left in the case to resonate the sound, and most of all the persons hearing with the watch close to his/her ear.

Beelzy · 6 June 2015, 04:56 AM

Just put it on a nightstand and late at night you will be able to hear it. I could not only hear my Sub tick, I could hear that every 50 seconds it would sound a tiny bit different.

Syed117 · 6 June 2015, 05:06 AM

I can hear it, it's just much quieter than just about every other watch I've listened to.

I have a family history of hearing loss. Maybe it's kicking in a bit early.

DrKorn1423 · 30 June 2015, 09:00 AM

I have listened to a 5513, 14060M, and 114060 subs. 5513 is a lot slower as it beats slower, from the 60's. The other two subs sound the same. Fast as hell and with,not always constant, but some kind of a ring to it. What causes the ringing? They are all not audible more than an inch from my ear. My ears are fine as I drive a school bus and get tested each year.

SearChart · 30 June 2015, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Beelzy

Just put it on a nightstand and late at night you will be able to hear it. I could not only hear my Sub tick, I could hear that every 50 seconds it would sound a tiny bit different.

If I do this with my manual Hamilton khaki it will make quite an annoying resonating sound, I'm all for hearing watches and stuff but not when I want to sleep.

joejeweler · 1 July 2015, 05:31 AM

My 114060 Sub is fairly quiet but easily discernible to my ears,....but then I always have had great hearing. (could pick up on conversations across the room!

)

Brings to mind a watch I once owned that you could hear from a few YARDS away,.......with a Valjoux 72 movement mounted up into a Wittnaeur SS case.

Of course some of you may already know that to be the reference Rolex used on their 1st Daytona, with a few changes as I recall........

......I wonder if one of the changes Rolex made was to QUIET the damn thing DOWN!

.....anybody have/had one to let us know?

6 June 2015, 12:59 AM	#1
Syed117 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Real Name: Syed Location: The Ether Posts: 3,388	Movement Sound Someone brought this up yesterday, but they titled the thread incorrectly. I've been wondering this for a few days, and I think this is the right place to ask. I'm not sure where I picked the habit up, but I always put a mechanical watch to my ear to hear if it is working. Yes, I can clearly see the seconds hand ticking away and I don't really know why I do it. So when my father got his new Submariner last week, I did the same thing. I couldn't hear it. I had to go into a quiet room and focus on the sound to hear the movement. I've been wondering why that is? Every other mechanical watch I've ever handled (other than modern a modern Rolex) has been easy to hear. Is this something more specific to the divers and the way they are sealed? Or do all modern Rolex watches have this muted sound from inside the case? I don't think the sales people at an AD would be thrilled I stopped by and started putting all their watches to my ears. Is there a difference in resonance between 316 and 904 steel? Do the thicker diver crystals make the difference? I personally like being able to hear the movement, but in theory, it seems it's better if I can't. I'm sure this doesn't warrant this level of discussion, but it's been at the back of my mind for a few days and there's no better place to ask.

6 June 2015, 05:06 AM	#5
Syed117 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Real Name: Syed Location: The Ether Posts: 3,388	I can hear it, it's just much quieter than just about every other watch I've listened to. I have a family history of hearing loss. Maybe it's kicking in a bit early. __________________ Rolex Datejust 41 126334 \| Omega Speedmaster Professional Hesalite \| Cartier Santos Large \| Tudor Black Bay 58

6 June 2015, 01:37 AM	#2
Abdullah71601 Banned Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Calumet Harbor Watch: ing da Bears Posts: 13,568	I can hear the movement in my Milgauss, which has a metal mag shield, about as well as my Explorer. I don't know, but I wouldn't think a thicker crystal would be more sound absorbing than the Milgauss shield.

6 June 2015, 04:56 AM	#4
Beelzy "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Chris Location: Cen-Cal Watch: 16610 Posts: 869	Just put it on a nightstand and late at night you will be able to hear it. I could not only hear my Sub tick, I could hear that every 50 seconds it would sound a tiny bit different.

30 June 2015, 09:00 AM	#6
DrKorn1423 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Toledo, Ohio Watch: 5513 Since '70 Posts: 13	I have listened to a 5513, 14060M, and 114060 subs. 5513 is a lot slower as it beats slower, from the 60's. The other two subs sound the same. Fast as hell and with,not always constant, but some kind of a ring to it. What causes the ringing? They are all not audible more than an inch from my ear. My ears are fine as I drive a school bus and get tested each year.

1 July 2015, 05:31 AM	#8
joejeweler Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Upstate New York Watch: Rolex 114060 Sub Posts: 109	My 114060 Sub is fairly quiet but easily discernible to my ears,....but then I always have had great hearing. (could pick up on conversations across the room! ) Brings to mind a watch I once owned that you could hear from a few YARDS away,.......with a Valjoux 72 movement mounted up into a Wittnaeur SS case. Of course some of you may already know that to be the reference Rolex used on their 1st Daytona, with a few changes as I recall........ ......I wonder if one of the changes Rolex made was to QUIET the damn thing DOWN! .....anybody have/had one to let us know?

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