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dangaa · 20 August 2015, 10:28 AM

Hi Guys,

Looking to take this watch in on a trade from a reputable seller on a forum that doesn't deal in watches (not necessarily proof they are reputable, rather just a comment on his possible integrity).

The pics were sent via phone and hopefully higher res photos will follow (I've asked for dial/bezel/lug/back/LEC photos if possible).

Based on my observations:

1) Y series - which coincides with his description that the there are open lugs on the watch.
2) The original vendor listed on the Certificate looks to be an AD for Rolex in the Philippines.
3) Photo with the box/paperwork looks to be complete

Concerns:

1) The watch is circa 2012 but it has an older box - did watches in that era come with this style?
2) The Certificate lists ROLEX SA instead of MONTRES ROLEX SA which is what I commonly see on older watches. I know they officially changed their name, but what year did they change the paperwork?

Is there anything that you guys see off the top that would lead you to believe its a fake?

The owner seems legit but I don't want to waste time if this is an obvious copy.

I blacked out the copy of the certificate to conceal the serial, if its worth anything he sent me an image of the complete one.

Feedback appreciated!

123Blueface · 20 August 2015, 10:57 AM

Those are lousy photos.
Lousy photos are usually by design given just about any phone has quality cameras nowadays.

dangaa · 20 August 2015, 10:59 AM

No argument here. Waiting on higher res copies to post.

AbsolutelyROLEX! · 20 August 2015, 11:32 AM

From here it looks good but i agree better pics are needed

hunterp27 · 20 August 2015, 12:32 PM

The endgame here in this section is to help people make decisions based on input. The input is based on the quality of the photos we get to see obviously. Like a previous poster stated, all phones these days have hi res cameras......so to receive photos like that would raise my pucker factor to red alert. You could be onto something here with a trade but id be really careful and don't hold your breath waiting on better pics.......they usually never come for one or more reasons. Just sayin.......good luck

crowncollection · 20 August 2015, 01:33 PM

Better pics needed

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20 August 2015, 10:28 AM	#1
dangaa "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 20	16600 Seadweller - Real? Help! Hi Guys, Looking to take this watch in on a trade from a reputable seller on a forum that doesn't deal in watches (not necessarily proof they are reputable, rather just a comment on his possible integrity). The pics were sent via phone and hopefully higher res photos will follow (I've asked for dial/bezel/lug/back/LEC photos if possible). Based on my observations: 1) Y series - which coincides with his description that the there are open lugs on the watch. 2) The original vendor listed on the Certificate looks to be an AD for Rolex in the Philippines. 3) Photo with the box/paperwork looks to be complete Concerns: 1) The watch is circa 2012 but it has an older box - did watches in that era come with this style? 2) The Certificate lists ROLEX SA instead of MONTRES ROLEX SA which is what I commonly see on older watches. I know they officially changed their name, but what year did they change the paperwork? Is there anything that you guys see off the top that would lead you to believe its a fake? The owner seems legit but I don't want to waste time if this is an obvious copy. I blacked out the copy of the certificate to conceal the serial, if its worth anything he sent me an image of the complete one. Feedback appreciated!

20 August 2015, 11:32 AM	#4
AbsolutelyROLEX! "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Andy Location: Ontario, Canada Watch: AKA: ANDERL712000 Posts: 4,935	From here it looks good but i agree better pics are needed __________________ We want to be the first in the field and Rolex should be seen as the one and only-the best. Hans Wilsdorf, Rolex founder

20 August 2015, 01:33 PM	#6
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,186	Better pics needed Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ watches many

20 August 2015, 10:57 AM	#2
123Blueface "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: USA Watch: All Posts: 5,181	Those are lousy photos. Lousy photos are usually by design given just about any phone has quality cameras nowadays.

20 August 2015, 10:59 AM	#3
dangaa "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 20	No argument here. Waiting on higher res copies to post.

20 August 2015, 12:32 PM	#5
hunterp27 Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: JHP Location: Fairview, TX Watch: WG 18039 Day/Date Posts: 789	The endgame here in this section is to help people make decisions based on input. The input is based on the quality of the photos we get to see obviously. Like a previous poster stated, all phones these days have hi res cameras......so to receive photos like that would raise my pucker factor to red alert. You could be onto something here with a trade but id be really careful and don't hold your breath waiting on better pics.......they usually never come for one or more reasons. Just sayin.......good luck

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