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When exactly was the GMT-Master 2 introduced?
In the new book "100 Superlative Rolex Watches'' by John Goldberger there is a timeline which says the GMT-Master 2 was introduced in 1989. I know this isn't correct because I bought mine in March 1987 and was told it was a brand new model. But I recently saw a thread posted on TRF where the author said he bought his in 1983. Can anyone shed light on which is the correct year that this watch made its appearance?
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Thanks for that - much appreciated!
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The original GMT MASTER II made it's debut circa 1983 with the reference 16760. Using a 3085 movement and slightly thicker case it was the first GMT to introduce the "jump-hour" feature whereby the hands could be decoupled.
It ran untill about 1988 when it was replaced with the 16710 with it's 3185 movement and slightly thinner case. ![]() |
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Spot on, Mike. The 16760 is sometimes called the "Fat Lady" due to the thicker case it used. The "jump hour" feature also comes in handy when Daylight Saving Time changes occur, as I found out Sunday.
![]() Here's a picture of my recently acquired 16760. It's an early one from 1984 and the bezel insert has been switched from the usual red/black to KU colors.
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The 16760 is an often overlooked reference. Made concurrently with the MASTER series 16750 it was never a big seller due, some feel, to the increased price vs. it's MASTER cousin. Some feel the 3085 movement was a bear to work on (not being a watchmaker I can't say), and was quickly (in Rolex terms) replaced by the 3185 series. |
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It's my understanding that the 16710 was introduced in 1988. So which model do you have? Thanks. |
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I would agree Will. Mine is an R series from 87. The slightly thicker case and guards are an indicator, ![]() |
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Great info in this post, thanks !
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Hi Will - yes I think you're correct. I'll have to dig out the guarantee card though, which is buried somewhere and reconfirm later so stay tuned...
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OK sorry for the delay but yes, the model I bought in March 1987 was a 16760. The timeline in the Rolex book I mentioned earlier states the 1989 model as the 16710 so I guess the author didn't get it wrong, it's just that there was an earlier model which he didn't feature. ![]() |
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This has always seemed an oddity with the GMT to me..
The 16760 GMT II was released during the same time as the 16750..1983/1988, but the 16750 Master was the more popular.. When the 16710 GMT II came out to replace the 16760, they also released the 16700 GMT Master to take the place of the 16750. But the 16710 GMT II was so popular that the 16700 Master only lasted until 1999 before it was phased out..
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It has been my good fortune to have handled several examples from early 84 (even an OP dial). |
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