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Old 28 January 2010, 12:26 PM   #31
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Old 28 January 2010, 12:27 PM   #32
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Kyle stealing Jocke's photos again.......................
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Old 28 January 2010, 12:28 PM   #33
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Kyle stealing Jocke's photos again.......................
Not stealing, just helping to show them off.
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Old 28 January 2010, 12:29 PM   #34
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Not stealing, just helping to show them off.
You know it might look like that in reality!
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Old 28 January 2010, 12:30 PM   #35
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Bad news, the glue that holds the cyclops on does degrade sometimes, I have seen this many times. Unless your watch is under warranty I seriously doubt Rolex will fix it.

Good news you can fix this yourself. Just get some UV activated glue, carefully clean the spot over the date with a little denatured alcohol and a cotton swab, clean the cyclops too.

Apply a small drop of glue directly over the date, and place the cyclops back on. Put your watch in direct sunlight to cure. Clean up excess after dry, use a tiny screwdriver (it's sapphire you won't scratch it).

If you mess up clean it off and try again.

No biggy.
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Old 28 January 2010, 12:37 PM   #36
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Old 29 January 2010, 12:11 PM   #38
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Bad news, the glue that holds the cyclops on does degrade sometimes, I have seen this many times. Unless your watch is under warranty I seriously doubt Rolex will fix it.

Good news you can fix this yourself. Just get some UV activated glue, carefully clean the spot over the date with a little denatured alcohol and a cotton swab, clean the cyclops too.

Apply a small drop of glue directly over the date, and place the cyclops back on. Put your watch in direct sunlight to cure. Clean up excess after dry, use a tiny screwdriver (it's sapphire you won't scratch it).

If you mess up clean it off and try again.

No biggy.

I can't stress this enough... DO NOT DO THIS! You risk a lot of things that would make the warranty useless even if you succeed. (unlikely) Just send it to RSC and play it cool.
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Old 29 January 2010, 12:52 PM   #39
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I can't stress this enough... DO NOT DO THIS! You risk a lot of things that would make the warranty useless even if you succeed. (unlikely) Just send it to RSC and play it cool.
Read the thread. It is an 8 year-old watch. It is not under warranty.
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Old 29 January 2010, 03:27 PM   #40
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I agree, send it to an RSC. I would be curious to see how much they charge to attach a new cyclops. Given that a full overhaul service of the watch is $500, I can't imagine that a new cyclops would be very much.

Then there's the question of what to do with the separated cyclops...it would be funny to think of things to do with it. If I knew how to use Photoshop it would be funny to turn an "I Phone" into a "Rolex phone" with a cyclops on the middle of the right side of the screen...
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Old 29 January 2010, 05:39 PM   #41
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Strange !! I thought the cyclops is a one piece with the sapphire..
Go directly to RSC to fix it. I think they will change all the sapphire crystal.

Please post some pics and if you go to RSC tell us who much it will cost.
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Old 29 January 2010, 05:50 PM   #42
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So, that means Sub and GMT owners should... always keep an eye on the cyclops?
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Old 31 January 2010, 10:10 AM   #43
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I can't stress this enough... DO NOT DO THIS! You risk a lot of things that would make the warranty useless even if you succeed. (unlikely) Just send it to RSC and play it cool.
Woops sorry dude I wasn't trying to scare anyone! The original poster asked what kind of glue to use. I am simply telling him what to use and how to use it.

Placed in the correct position no one will know the difference, even RSC! Why? Because it is the same thing that is done by the manufacturer of the crystal.

And besides this if the watch is not under warranty you are looking at a full service in order to get a new crystal.

The other option is to take it to a qualified watchmaker and have him either re-glue it or put a new crystal on. Little dab will do Ya.

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Call me stupid.. but it sounds like the magnifier is glued on top of a flat crystal. I thought the crystal was cut and the magnifier was inserted into a hole.

Which is it??
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Old 31 January 2010, 06:46 PM   #45
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The sapphire cyclops is attached with an adhesive that is activated with UV light, and not something for you to try with your dentists UV light and cement products that are for dental use ONLY !
Maybe it fell off when he do a root canal?
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Old 31 January 2010, 07:00 PM   #46
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Call me stupid.. but it sounds like the magnifier is glued on top of a flat crystal. I thought the crystal was cut and the magnifier was inserted into a hole.

Which is it??
No not stupid, correct the cyclops is glued on


If the watch is 8 years old (as Highhorology has stated) if you take it to RSC they will want to service the watch before fitting a new crystal unless you are very very lucky.
This would then cost you somewhere around $700 I'd guess.
If the watch is running ok and you do not have any eyesight issues I'd just leave it as is until you need a service and have it sorted then.
Just my 2 pence worth.
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Old 31 January 2010, 08:18 PM   #47
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Ahhhh, once again a disappearing act and I'm left looking for the freakin' train wreck!

Where are the pictures!!!

Maybe it's a fugazi??
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Old 31 January 2010, 08:19 PM   #48
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From what i understand,this thread has progressed 3 pages and we STILL have not established which model it is!!!!!!!!



Or is my eyesight failing along with everything else??
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Old 31 January 2010, 10:08 PM   #49
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From what i understand,this thread has progressed 3 pages and we STILL have not established which model it is!!!!!!!!



Or is my eyesight failing along with everything else??
Lets hope it's not a Sea Dweller.
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Old 31 January 2010, 10:32 PM   #50
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Lets hope it's not a Sea Dweller.
EXACTLY....my thought also!!!!!!..

.......but now i am REALLY WORRIED if i am starting to think like you Jocke!!!!



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Old 31 January 2010, 10:39 PM   #51
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mmmmmm....but on the plus side...maybe it also means i am suddenly a super talented photographer!!!!!!
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Old 31 January 2010, 11:27 PM   #52
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I've seen the cyclops fall off after the crystal was smashed, I can't see wiping water off would cause the adhesive to fail, unless..........................................

Well I have to also ask.

Wheres the beef, I mean the photos!!!
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Strange !! I thought the cyclops is a one piece with the sapphire.

It isn't.


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Call me stupid.. but it sounds like the magnifier is glued on top of a flat crystal.

It is.


Here are a couple of Charles N's watches with the cyclops removed from the crystals.
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I think the chances of aligning it perfectly, if doing a do-it-yourself repair, would be slim. As I understand it, the Rolex technicians use a template with the precise placement of the cyclops set over the date.

Here and there on the forum, I think in the Watch Out section, photographs have surfaced of either fakes or botched repairs with mis-aligned cyclops. As the placement of the cyclops is often taken as an indicator of authenticity, I'd recommend leaving it to an RSC.

BTW I found these on-line "cyclops glasses" - I can see JJ sporting them.

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Yep, cyclops glued on and as mentioned above, can be removed. On the GMT C, one can see the antireflective coating that is applied on the underside of the crystal.

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Maybe wait a few days before getting it sent to Rolex for repair. You may like it sans cyclops, i know i prefer the look without them.
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I think the chances of aligning it perfectly, if doing a do-it-yourself repair, would be slim. As I understand it, the Rolex technicians use a template with the precise placement of the cyclops set over the date.

Here and there on the forum, I think in the Watch Out section, photographs have surfaced of either fakes or botched repairs with mis-aligned cyclops. As the placement of the cyclops is often taken as an indicator of authenticity, I'd recommend leaving it to an RSC.

BTW I found these on-line "cyclops glasses" - I can see JJ sporting them.

In all honesty I have never actually done this repair on a Rolex. I have on other watches and it really isn't that difficult. If somebody asked me to in order to save themselves a couple hundred bucks, I would probably be obliged. Would the repair be perfect? Well, what is your definition of perfect? .1 mm .01mm .001mm? My point is this unless I did a totally whacked out job, nobody would tell the difference. Not you, not Rolex, nobody. Trust me there is not a little guy at Rolex measuring every minute detail of every watch that comes in. Worst case all they would do is replace your crystal anyway.

The truth of the the matter is that watchmakers work within certain tolerances, they may be close tolerances (.02 mm) but still there are tolerances. If there weren't tolerances no watch would ever leave the factory.

O.K. here's a test, you really want to freak a Rolex dealer out? Try this. Ask to look at every watch with a date on it in the case. These are new watches right? Now when you are looking at the cyclops look at it from the angle of the crown, so you are looking at the Rolex emblem. What you will see if you look closely is that the date window is either directly above the date or a little bit below center. Why? Simple when the watch is viewed on the wrist it is not generally from directly above, the angle of view is slightly from the 6 o'clock position.

Watch manufacturers may give the customer the impression that watches are "perfect", what they are really shooting for is something more along the lines of being functionally perfect with no obvious defects.

George Daniels has written some great stuff along these lines.
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