Would you buy a Two-Tone Sub as a Dressy Watch

[Sweetswisssteel]

Yes 16613 Bluesey is dressy, casual, sport, functional, tough or whatever you want it to be.

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[Rolexlover43]

No no no

[TonyYu]

I dont think Sub in general is dressy, SS or TT. But it does fine with suit or t-shirt.

I rather think Daytona is, and I usually wear it a shirt.

[Sweetswisssteel]

Ultimately, if I strap an onion to my wrist and I think its dressy then that is all the matters. This is a crazy subjective post to get people throwing their 2 cents in and having a little winge here and there. Lots of fun and

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[roosvelt]

I'll give you a watch that goes both ways...serti sub !!

[|404|]

Dress watch should have class.

A submariner, is not classy. Despite what James Bond has done for the field.

Traditionally, they shouldn't even have a date. And even more traditionally, one should not even wear a watch. As on an occasion such as dressing up, one should care more about the event than the sands of time.

However, that said get something thin, beautiful, understated. Not a Rolex 2 tone anything to be honest. They are loud, brash, and uncouth in such events.

A great example of a cheaper offering of a dress watch would be a Nomos Orion 38mm if you have large wrists. Or their 34mm offering if you have smaller wrists. (because lets face it, most people do not dress up for proper black tie/white tie events that often)


If you do wish to spend more money, then Patek have plenty of classy options as do the Cellini's that Rolex offer.
But certainly two tone anything is brash and not dressy whatsoever.

[1William]

I like it and the gold does dress the watch up a bit. I prefer the Submariner to the GMT.

[Old Geezer]

A TT Sub or GMT can be dressy and pair well with a suit. Maybe not a tux but suits and sport coats, sure. TT with black dial is my pick. I have a TT gmt and had a TT Sub with black dial for 10 years. Wish I’d kept it instead of flipping it.

[THC]

TT DJ41 on Jubilee, white or silver dial

[samson66]

Neither, get a datejust ot daydate if you can swing it. My datejust is perfect for work and any dress up situation.

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[superstarmar]

Nuff said ...

[Sweetswisssteel]

Originally Posted by |404|

Dress watch should have class.

A submariner, is not classy. Despite what James Bond has done for the field.

Traditionally, they shouldn't even have a date. And even more traditionally, one should not even wear a watch. As on an occasion such as dressing up, one should care more about the event than the sands of time.

However, that said get something thin, beautiful, understated. Not a Rolex 2 tone anything to be honest. They are loud, brash, and uncouth in such events.

A great example of a cheaper offering of a dress watch would be a Nomos Orion 38mm if you have large wrists. Or their 34mm offering if you have smaller wrists. (because lets face it, most people do not dress up for proper black tie/white tie events that often)


If you do wish to spend more money, then Patek have plenty of classy options as do the Cellini's that Rolex offer.
But certainly two tone anything is brash and not dressy whatsoever.

Wrong

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[Sweetswisssteel]

Originally Posted by superstarmar

Nuff said ...

Yeah, boss

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[|404|]

Originally Posted by Sweetswisssteel

Wrong

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Oh yes, you Australians do classy. Tell me more :)

[superstarmar]

Originally Posted by |404|

Oh yes, you Australians do classy. Tell me more :)

Whether it’s classy or not I prefer a dressier sports
watch that can be versatile as I don’t wear a suit
24/7... With that being said if said budget can acquire
a nice Patek Calatrava or another dress Patek go for it .

[|404|]

Originally Posted by superstarmar

Whether it’s classy or not I prefer a dressier sports
watch that can be versatile as I don’t wear a suit
24/7... With that being said if said budget can acquire
a nice Patek Calatrava or another dress Patek go for it .

I don't get this argument. If you buy a Tuxedo... a Cummerbund, special silk bow tie, a special shirt winged/laydown/mandarin. Black, ultra shined Shoes.

These aren't versatile garments. None of these items could you wear other than a special event. The same applies to a dress watch. But yet your watch has to be versatile? It doesn't make sense, logically.

The example I gave in my country is around £1000-1200 and will last you endless events. Far beyond your tux,shirt,shoes.

If you're going to make such effort in your attire, personally I think your watch should match too. If you don't have a dress watch, don't wear a watch at all.
It is brash and uncouth to wear a sports watch to such event.

Furthermore, my advice also stated that PP and other brands could be worn if your budget allowed for it.

[Mystro]

I am interested at how strict some people confine themself to these dress codes and what circles you travel in that adhere to these rules because I have not seen them.
I have worn a Bluesy Sub for over 18 years everywhere. I was in the entertainment business and wore my Bluesy to many swanky celebrity events including black tie. I would consider some of these events extremely high end and exclusive. The Bluesy looked at home as I saw Subs, Panerai as well as other "sport models" all the time at these kinds of events. I wouldn't consider these events typical to most but certainly a accurate gage of realistic protocol of what people that live a high profile lifestyle are really wearing at formal events.

[superstarmar]

Originally Posted by |404|

I don't get this argument. If you buy a Tuxedo... a Cummerbund, special silk bow tie, a special shirt winged/laydown/mandarin.

These aren't versatile garments. Nor is a dress watch. But yet your watch has to be versatile? It doesn't make sense, logically.

The example I gave in my country is around £1000-1200 and will last you endless events.

If you're going to make such effort in your attire, personally I think your watch should match too.

Furthermore, my advice also stated that PP and other brands could be worn if your budget allowed for it.

I don’t believe the OP mentioned a Tux. but since the
subject came up here’s my suggestion.

Closest I have to a tux ...
A 5 digit would work just as well if not better...

[Mystro]

Originally Posted by superstarmar

I don’t believe the OP mentioned a Tux. but since the
subject came up here’s my suggestion.

Closest I have to a tux ...
A 5 digit would work just as well if not better...

Classic look.

[Spoonage]

To me a Sub or GMT are not dress watches. That is the Cellini line from Rolex... otherwise you are into other brands like PP, JLC, ALS, etc.

[Sweetswisssteel]

Originally Posted by |404|

Oh yes, you Australians do classy. Tell me more :)

Cmon bro, you are shilling Nomos watches, yuk, enough said. Just WRONG. No need to insult my nationality. Cheers mate, have a great life.

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[|404|]

It's not the point of getting away with it... or it just fitting in. Dress watches exist for a reason. You don't half arse any of the rest of your appearance, with black/white tie... why do it with the watch? I've not seen anyone with black trainers yet. One day perhaps?

[Sweetswisssteel]

Originally Posted by Mystro

I am interested at how strict some people confine themself to these dress codes and what circles you travel in that adhere to these rules because I have not seen them.
I have worn a Bluesy Sub for over 18 years everywhere. I was in the entertainment business and wore my Bluesy to many swanky celebrity events including black tie. I would consider some of these events extremely high end and exclusive. The Bluesy looked at home as I saw Subs, Panerai as well as other "sport models" all the time at these kinds of events. I wouldn't consider these events typical to most but certainly a accurate gage of realistic protocol of what people that live a high profile lifestyle are really wearing at formal events.

Yeah, bluesey all the way. We know it's way cool, sporty,dressy etc. It's all personal taste. Love my bluesey

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[Sweetswisssteel]

Originally Posted by |404|

It's not the point of getting away with it... or it just fitting in. Dress watches exist for a reason. You don't half arse any of the rest of your appearance, with black/white tie... why do it with the watch? I've not seen anyone with black trainers yet. One day perhaps?

Mate its 2018, what defines "dress" anyway?? Lighten up man

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[mikkolopez]

Been there, done that and moved the TT Sub on.

If it’s dress watch, my best bet is a Datejust or DayDate.


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[|404|]

Originally Posted by Mystro

I am interested at how strict some people confine themself to these dress codes and what circles you travel in that adhere to these rules because I have not seen them.
I have worn a Bluesy Sub for over 18 years everywhere. I was in the entertainment business and wore my Bluesy to many swanky celebrity events including black tie. I would consider some of these events extremely high end and exclusive. The Bluesy looked at home as I saw Subs, Panerai as well as other "sport models" all the time at these kinds of events. I wouldn't consider these events typical to most but certainly a accurate gage of realistic protocol of what people that live a high profile lifestyle are really wearing at formal events.

Well you're American... not being offensive. But you've not exactly got a long history or events that go back more than 200 years...

I went to Oxford and I can tell you for sure at our events here in the UK it would be looked down on. Perhaps not at celebrity event because these people do not have class anyway...

But at our events and some of my professional events in the city of London (the financial city/hub, not just London, if you're not in the know), it would be looked down upon. Probably not to your face, but certainly behind your back.
The rules are, no watch or a dress watch. No-one turns up to events in a dinner jacket, it's full black/white tie attire. Why slack on your watch? Why ruin the look, the sophistication, the class?

[superstarmar]

Originally Posted by |404|

It's not the point of getting away with it... or it just fitting in. Dress watches exist for a reason. You don't half arse any of the rest of your appearance, with black/white tie... why do it with the watch? I've not seen anyone with black trainers yet. One day perhaps?

Seen plenty of suits with sneakers. Not my style but
Hey , it’s the modern look ...

Dressy is subjective anyway. People nowadays are
redefining terms constantly...

[Mystro]

Originally Posted by |404|

Well you're American... not being offensive. But you've not exactly got a long history or events that go back more than 200 years...

I went to Oxford and I can tell you for sure at our events here in the UK it would be looked down on. Perhaps not at celebrity event because these people do not have class anyway...

But at our events and some of my professional events in the city of London (the financial city/hub, not just London, if you're not in the know), it would be looked down upon. Probably not to your face, but certainly behind your back.
The rules are, no watch or a dress watch. No-one turns up to events in a dinner jacket, it's full black/white tie attire. Why slack on your watch? Why ruin the look, the sophistication, the class?

I think for the most part, the world (especially the USA) has moved beyond that kind of snobbery.

[|404|]

Originally Posted by Mystro

I think for the most part, the world (especially the USA) has moved beyond that kind of snobbery.

It's not snobbery. The word snob comes from the Latin phrase " sine nobilitate" translating to, "without nobility".

We are adhering to our history, by continuing traditions and respecting the nobility in this heritage.

It is not snobbery, quite the opposite. It is a sign of respect to the events that we attend, but also to our hosts.

The irony being that, you also adhere to tradition. However, only when it suits. You are buying mechanical watches that are based in horological history. Mechanical watches have no place in the modern world, but we buy them for their tradition, their story, their heart.
Thermal-compensated/regulator quartz puts mechanical watches to shame.

[watchwatcher]

Originally Posted by |404|

Well you're American... not being offensive. But you've not exactly got a long history or events that go back more than 200 years...

I went to Oxford and I can tell you for sure at our events here in the UK it would be looked down on. Perhaps not at celebrity event because these people do not have class anyway...

Actually, you are being offensive. Our culture in America may indeed be only 200 years old, but let's face it, our two cultures were the same for many years before that.

And...you've also insulted people attending celebrity events. Anyone else you want to take a shot at?