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chiubak · 5 November 2009, 02:22 PM

hi, thinking of buying a vintage sub cannot make up my mind which to buy any thought on which one 5512 or 5513 ?

mbording · 5 November 2009, 06:31 PM

Hmm, tough one!! I have been tumbling the same question arround!

I would really prefer finding a 5512 with four lines rather than a 5513. However, I dream of one with good patina and faded bezel. Finding two in same condition, I would choose the 5512 over the 5513. (obviously talking maxi dials here).

Some Pair · 6 November 2009, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by mbording

Hmm, tough one!! I have been tumbling the same question arround!

I would really prefer finding a 5512 with four lines rather than a 5513. However, I dream of one with good patina and faded bezel. Finding two in same condition, I would choose the 5512 over the 5513. (obviously talking maxi dials here).

Great choice either way when "a real" example shows up. Stick to this forum.

Btw, Since you're talkin' maxi dials, then get proper year era, and the "Maxi Dial" scoop & info here:

http://doubleredseadweller.com/5513maxi.htm

Best regards Gents

snow_rocks · 6 November 2009, 01:22 AM

5512

mike · 6 November 2009, 01:03 PM

Many feel the 5512 is the collector's choice, but it pays to do you're homework reguarding year/movement/dial type etc...

As an example, movements for the 12 should following the following break down,

from 1959 till about 1964 was with 1530 movement
from 1964/65 till 1966 it came with 1560.
from 1966 till 1978 it came with 1570
up to 1971/72 it came with a 1570 movement with hacking second.

Dial types for gilt/gloss generally are as follows,

- OCC dial w/4lines, "Submariner" in gilt, OCC and depth in silver (outer track)
2- 2 line dial, older font style, gilt "Submariner" and gilt depth (outer track)
3- 2 line w/ newer font style (outer track)
4- SCOC dial w/4lines, "Submariner" in silver, OCC and depth in silver, older font style (outer track)
5- SCOC dial w/4 lines, newer font style (outer track)
6- SCOC dial w/4 lines, underline below "Perpetual" and no outer track (still marked "Swiss", not "Swiss T<25")
7- SCOC dial w/4 lines, no outer track, start of the T<25

The 5512 was discontinued circa 1978.

chiubak · 6 November 2009, 02:02 PM

looks like the 5512 have it..... cheers for that

watchthisone2 · 7 November 2009, 03:25 AM

5513 for me.
They mat be more common, but I prefer the clean uncluttered face as opposed to having too much writing on it... just a thought.

marke · 7 November 2009, 03:28 AM

I would like both please in particular a 5512 with a 7206 bracelet...

Blue Lantern · 7 November 2009, 03:33 AM

I prefer the 5513 with only 2 lines of text, as compared to either the 5512 or any of the date models. So good looking.

5 November 2009, 02:22 PM	#1
chiubak "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: uk Watch: explorer II 1655 Posts: 33	5512 or 5513 hi, thinking of buying a vintage sub cannot make up my mind which to buy any thought on which one 5512 or 5513 ?

5 November 2009, 06:31 PM	#2
mbording "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Denmark Posts: 40	Hmm, tough one!! I have been tumbling the same question arround! I would really prefer finding a 5512 with four lines rather than a 5513. However, I dream of one with good patina and faded bezel. Finding two in same condition, I would choose the 5512 over the 5513. (obviously talking maxi dials here).

6 November 2009, 01:22 AM	#4
snow_rocks Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Rick Location: At what TIME?!!! Watch: the SKY tonite! Posts: 3,225	5512

6 November 2009, 01:03 PM	#5
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	Many feel the 5512 is the collector's choice, but it pays to do you're homework reguarding year/movement/dial type etc... As an example, movements for the 12 should following the following break down, from 1959 till about 1964 was with 1530 movement from 1964/65 till 1966 it came with 1560. from 1966 till 1978 it came with 1570 up to 1971/72 it came with a 1570 movement with hacking second. Dial types for gilt/gloss generally are as follows, - OCC dial w/4lines, "Submariner" in gilt, OCC and depth in silver (outer track) 2- 2 line dial, older font style, gilt "Submariner" and gilt depth (outer track) 3- 2 line w/ newer font style (outer track) 4- SCOC dial w/4lines, "Submariner" in silver, OCC and depth in silver, older font style (outer track) 5- SCOC dial w/4 lines, newer font style (outer track) 6- SCOC dial w/4 lines, underline below "Perpetual" and no outer track (still marked "Swiss", not "Swiss T<25") 7- SCOC dial w/4 lines, no outer track, start of the T<25 The 5512 was discontinued circa 1978.

6 November 2009, 02:02 PM	#6
chiubak "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: uk Watch: explorer II 1655 Posts: 33	looks like the 5512 have it..... cheers for that

7 November 2009, 03:25 AM	#7
watchthisone2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Jeff Location: Devon, UK Watch: Sea-Dweller Posts: 208	5513 for me. They mat be more common, but I prefer the clean uncluttered face as opposed to having too much writing on it... just a thought.

7 November 2009, 03:28 AM	#8
marke Banned Join Date: Mar 2008 Real Name: Mark Location: UK Nationwide... Watch: Daytona Posts: 1,842	I would like both please in particular a 5512 with a 7206 bracelet...

7 November 2009, 03:33 AM	#9
Blue Lantern "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Delaware Watch: Tudor 79190 Posts: 366	I prefer the 5513 with only 2 lines of text, as compared to either the 5512 or any of the date models. So good looking.

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