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Safetrends · 18 January 2010, 03:16 PM

On the Rolex movements their are two gears that are different colors. Both my 1565 and my 1575 have this. Now how can the gear last so many years without the color on gears coming off unless it is poured into the metal at the time of manufacturing the gears?

BTW: This is a stock photo I stole from Ebay.

Some info please to stop me from

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sleddog · 18 January 2010, 03:22 PM

Good question David!!!
Larry will let us know.........

Tools · 18 January 2010, 03:39 PM

Rolex is famous for it's red Teflon coated reverser gears... The part you see doesn't rub against anything or have any wear surfaces at all. The only thing that engages is the small surface area between the teeth with a very tiny gear inside...

Not much to wear out, and easily removed and replaced...

I expect that one of our watchmakers can say how often they have had to replace one of these gears..........

Safetrends · 18 January 2010, 03:41 PM

Thanks Larry

Both of my movements still look like new so I was impressed for, 40 year old movements!

Alcan · 18 January 2010, 08:53 PM

The reverser gears, up close and personal.

padi56 · 18 January 2010, 11:05 PM

IMHO the older Rolex movements from the 15XX up to the cal 3035 seem to be made of stronger and better finished materials.Now not saying anything wrong with the cal 3135 and its clones but IMHO the parts are not made or finished as good as the older Rolex movements.

Damage Inc. · 19 January 2010, 01:25 AM

Thanks for the photo Al...always wondered what Rolex reversing wheels looked like. I knew they looked different on the visible surface than ETA wheels, and from your pic it shows that the internal clutch mechanism is different too.

Damage Inc. · 19 January 2010, 01:30 AM

And to build a little on what Larry said...
The red gears are turned by the motion of the rotor (that nice butterfly rotor in the original pic)...I believe one (of the red wheels) turns clockwise and the other counter clockwise (I could be off base here)...but the energy is supplied to the next piece in only one direction due to the clutch mechanisms in each wheel. That rotation is translated to the gold colored wheel (the one with 4 holes in it), which in turn rotates the gear sitting on top of the barrel (the other gold colored piece in the original picture, connected to the barrel arbor)...thus winding the mainspring.

Safetrends · 19 January 2010, 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alcan

The reverser gears, up close and personal.

Nice photo, this, in a nut shell is what winds up the watch, both gears look to be the same, except for the internal clicks that are different, I guess counting teeth would confirm that.

Denver Dick · 19 January 2010, 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by padi56

IMHO the older Rolex movements from the 15XX up to the cal 3035 seem to be made of stronger and better finished materials.Now not saying anything wrong with the cal 3135 and its clones but IMHO the parts are not made or finished as good as the older Rolex movements.

I love my TT DJ 16013 with cal 3035. It's accurate and reliable. In addition, it held up well parts and accuracy-wise when it went 11 1/2 years without servicing once.

18 January 2010, 03:22 PM	#2
sleddog TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Rob Location: Nearby. Posts: 24,930	Good question David!!! Larry will let us know......... __________________ He who wears a Rolex is always on time, even when late!! TRF's "After Dark" Bar & Nightclub Patron-Founding Member..

18 January 2010, 03:39 PM	#3
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,477	Rolex is famous for it's red Teflon coated reverser gears... The part you see doesn't rub against anything or have any wear surfaces at all. The only thing that engages is the small surface area between the teeth with a very tiny gear inside... Not much to wear out, and easily removed and replaced... I expect that one of our watchmakers can say how often they have had to replace one of these gears.......... __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member Last edited by Tools; 19 January 2010 at 07:13 AM..

18 January 2010, 11:05 PM	#6
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19 January 2010, 01:25 AM	#7
Damage Inc. "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Vic Location: Colorado, USA Watch: Mechanical!! Posts: 807	Thanks for the photo Al...always wondered what Rolex reversing wheels looked like. I knew they looked different on the visible surface than ETA wheels, and from your pic it shows that the internal clutch mechanism is different too. __________________ "Science tastes like vomit." Kari "Mythbusters hottie" Byron Z-serial GMT IIc 2.92M serial 1675 Pepsi V-serial 16610LV

19 January 2010, 01:30 AM	#8
Damage Inc. "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Vic Location: Colorado, USA Watch: Mechanical!! Posts: 807	And to build a little on what Larry said... The red gears are turned by the motion of the rotor (that nice butterfly rotor in the original pic)...I believe one (of the red wheels) turns clockwise and the other counter clockwise (I could be off base here)...but the energy is supplied to the next piece in only one direction due to the clutch mechanisms in each wheel. That rotation is translated to the gold colored wheel (the one with 4 holes in it), which in turn rotates the gear sitting on top of the barrel (the other gold colored piece in the original picture, connected to the barrel arbor)...thus winding the mainspring. __________________ "Science tastes like vomit." Kari "Mythbusters hottie" Byron Z-serial GMT IIc 2.92M serial 1675 Pepsi V-serial 16610LV

18 January 2010, 03:41 PM	#4
Safetrends Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: David Walz Location: San Diego CA USA Watch: my hand. :) Posts: 9,156	Thanks Larry Both of my movements still look like new so I was impressed for, 40 year old movements!

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