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InVision · 7 February 2010, 01:01 AM

I was cleaning out my bank safety box to make room for my Daytona and I cam across this band. It is a long story but I will try to be concise. My Mother was the executor for a US Army Colonel who was in charge of cleaning up Japan after WWII. I purchased a fancy silver box that he was given by the emperor and this was in the lot. It says Rolex on it and marked .375. , cy & co and WAB. Someone know anything about this band? Is it something someone would want to buy or should I just scrape it? It is actually a nice gold color, but I guess I forgot to white balance.

Mike

rolexsubdate · 7 February 2010, 01:06 AM

MADE IN ENGLAND???? you sir have something rare: It is DOLEX band .... look how crappy the steel looks ... I bet you can scrape off the steel with a razor blade ....it is proably aluminum ... but be careful, it might crack into many pieces ....Look at the crown on the bracelet: 4 marks on the crown ...It is screaming "FAKE!!!!" ... I thought the crown had 5 .....it just doesn't have the steel finish/look .... I seriously doubt it is steel ....

Idle Swede · 7 February 2010, 01:07 AM

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Seems to be a 9K gold bracelet.

Idle Swede · 7 February 2010, 01:08 AM

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And yes, I'd like to buy it.

Send me a PM if you want to get rid of it.

Lamone · 7 February 2010, 01:12 AM

Nice vintage band.

InVision · 7 February 2010, 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolexsubdate

you sir have something rare: It is DOLEX band .... look how crappy the steel looks ... I bet you can scrape off the steel with a razor blade ....it is proably aluminum ... but be careful, it might crack into many pieces ....

No it solid metal. I think .375 means it is 9K.

Mike

InVision · 7 February 2010, 01:24 AM

Anyone know what WAB stands for?

Mike

Renoir · 7 February 2010, 01:28 AM

Nice find...I'd certainly like to hear more about it.

rolexsubdate · 7 February 2010, 01:31 AM

the MADE IN ENGLAND is disturbing .... it should say SWISS MADE, at the least ...could be an aftermarket item...look at the crown on the clasp .... it is going overboard and it has 4 lines .... rolex crowns have 5 lines ....

CoopJr · 7 February 2010, 01:39 AM

That crown does have 5 points. I hope authenticating Rolex watches is not how you make your living!

Idle Swede · 7 February 2010, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by CoopJr

That crown does have 5 points. I hope authenticating Rolex watches is not how you make your living!

PeteNYC13 · 7 February 2010, 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolexsubdate

MADE IN ENGLAND???? you sir have something rare: It is DOLEX band .... look how crappy the steel looks ... I bet you can scrape off the steel with a razor blade ....it is proably aluminum ... but be careful, it might crack into many pieces ....Look at the crown on the bracelet: 4 marks on the crown ...It is screaming "FAKE!!!!" ... I thought the crown had 5 .....it just doesn't have the steel finish/look .... I seriously doubt it is steel ....

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I really, really try to keep it positive on here...BUT, I hope you aren't a Doctor, your bedside manner would SUCK!

Every post of yours starts with the most negative thing you could think of.

Now, back to my coffee and my positive thoughts.

To the OP, if it is rare and vinatge, GREAT Find!

-Pete

InVision · 7 February 2010, 01:47 AM

Also it is weird that every link is marked .375

Mike

Idle Swede · 7 February 2010, 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InVision

Also it is weird that every link is marked .375

Mike

Can you shoot some better pics of it?

Rscmaine · 7 February 2010, 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolexsubdate

the MADE IN ENGLAND is disturbing .... it should say SWISS MADE, at the least ...could be an aftermarket item...look at the crown on the clasp .... it is going overboard and it has 4 lines .... rolex crowns have 5 lines ....

You couldn't be more wrong if you tried...

9kt gold is very common in England and Australia - but is not an accepted grade in other countries.

No doubt this is genuine and was commissioned by Rolex for manufacture in England.

Nice piece - what size are the end pieces?

rolexsubdate · 7 February 2010, 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoopJr

That crown does have 5 points. I hope authenticating Rolex watches is not how you make your living!

take the first pic ... save iit and enlarge it ... I only see 4 lines ....ok, if you think there are 5, point them out with redlines and post the pic....here is my pic... I am only seeing 4 ....

sakuraba · 7 February 2010, 01:57 AM

Expanding link bracelet?

FWIW it looks genuine to me.

Congratulations!

FlyingMoose · 7 February 2010, 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolexsubdate

take the first pic ... save iit and enlarge it ... I only see 4 lines ....ok, if you think there are 5, point them out with redlines and post the pic....here is my pic... I am only seeing 4 ....

You are pointing to the spaces between the points.

rolexsubdate · 7 February 2010, 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeteNYC13

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I really, really try to keep it positive on here...BUT, I hope you aren't a Doctor, your bedside manner would SUCK!

Every post of yours starts with the most negative thing you could think of.

Now, back to my coffee and my positive thoughts.

To the OP, if it is rare and vinatge, GREAT Find!

-Pete

I am not trying to be pos or neg ... I am commenting on what I see ,,,, I have never seen a Rolex crown with 4 lines .... if there is, then I am wrong and i will gladly appologize ... just from the pics, the crown and MADE IN ENGLAND just sounds suspicious ... well the crwon looks suspicious ...if it has 5, I can't see the 5th one ... may be it is the way pics are taken ...can you please point out where the 5th one is?

No, I am not a doctor ... my job is to interrogate poeple .... I scrutinize every little thing told to me until there is nothing left ... all loose ends are tied ...if the story is legit, it is legit from all angles ... if not, then I can poke holes through it ....and catch them ...

InVision · 7 February 2010, 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rscmaine

You couldn't be more wrong if you tried...

9kt gold is very common in England and Australia - but is not an accepted grade in other countries.

No doubt this is genuine and was commissioned by Rolex for manufacture in England.

Nice piece - what size are the end pieces?

looks like ~18 cm.

Swede I don't have any good photo equipment yet, here is another shot.

Rscmaine · 7 February 2010, 02:06 AM

I just found CY&Co in a listing of British gold companies- the company was in business as early as the 1860's- to actually determine what you have, you need to look at the tiny hallmarks...

It is definitely pre 1975 - and after 1932 - due to the .375 mark

Can't find the WAP anywhere.

My guess is that this was from the same era as when Rolex and other Swiss watchmakers outsourced their bracelet manufacture to avoid import tariffs.

mikefrmnj · 7 February 2010, 02:06 AM

That's sweet. Any idea on year of production?

PeteNYC13 · 7 February 2010, 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolexsubdate

take the first pic ... save iit and enlarge it ... I only see 4 lines ....ok, if you think there are 5, point them out with redlines and post the pic....here is my pic... I am only seeing 4 ....

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Using your math, I just checked and I only have four fingers!

I hope you post this stuff just to ruin our Saturday morning

-Pete

InVision · 7 February 2010, 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeteNYC13

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Using your math, I just checked and I only have four fingers!

I hope you post this stuff just to ruin our Saturday morning

-Pete

Pete it is me, every time I post I create havoc...

Mike

Cap · 7 February 2010, 02:12 AM

A thead just doesn't get any btter then this.

PeteNYC13 · 7 February 2010, 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolexsubdate

I am not trying to be pos or neg ... I am commenting on what I see ,,,, I have never seen a Rolex crown with 4 lines .... if there is, then I am wrong and i will gladly appologize ... just from the pics, the crown and MADE IN ENGLAND just sounds suspicious ... well the crwon looks suspicious ...if it has 5, I can't see the 5th one ... may be it is the way pics are taken ...can you please point out where the 5th one is?

No, I am not a doctor ... my job is to interrogate poeple .... I scrutinize every little thing told to me until there is nothing left ... all loose ends are tied ...if the story is legit, it is legit from all angles ... if not, then I can poke holes through it ....and catch them ...

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This is the best I could crop the photo, count the red dots, there are five of them.
Your job may be to interrogate people, good for you... but nobody comes on to this forum to be interrogated or told how crappy a product they have - especially when you clearly don't know what you are talking about.

-Pete

Rscmaine · 7 February 2010, 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikefrmnj

That's sweet. Any idea on year of production?

Nope...I'm tapped out.

My guess is that you have something pretty rare and valuable. Somewhere there is a watch crying out for that bracelet and an owner who REALLY wants it!

acce1999 · 7 February 2010, 02:17 AM

Too funny!

I've heard about those bracelets as well.

Best,

A

PeteNYC13 · 7 February 2010, 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InVision

Pete it is me, every time I post I create havoc...

Mike

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well, you have some nerve coming on a Rolex Forum and asking about Rolex... cut it out!

-Pete

mike · 7 February 2010, 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolexsubdate

the MADE IN ENGLAND is disturbing .... it should say SWISS MADE, at the least ...could be an aftermarket item...look at the crown on the clasp .... it is going overboard and it has 4 lines .... rolex crowns have 5 lines ....

I'm the first to admit my knowledge about bracelets could be better, but back in the day bracelets were not only made in England, but Mexico and the USA for two others.

I believe USA bracelets could be had into the mid 70s.

7 February 2010, 01:01 AM	#1
InVision Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Mike Location: Destin, FL USA Watch: Outerspace DayDate Posts: 2,662	*What the $@#$& is this....** I was cleaning out my bank safety box to make room for my Daytona and I cam across this band. It is a long story but I will try to be concise. My Mother was the executor for a US Army Colonel who was in charge of cleaning up Japan after WWII. I purchased a fancy silver box that he was given by the emperor and this was in the lot. It says Rolex on it and marked .375. , cy & co and WAB. Someone know anything about this band? Is it something someone would want to buy or should I just scrape it? It is actually a nice gold color, but I guess I forgot to white balance. Mike

7 February 2010, 02:06 AM	#21
Rscmaine "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Nat Parkinson Location: Maine, USA Watch: me pull a rabbit.. Posts: 1,196	I just found CY&Co in a listing of British gold companies- the company was in business as early as the 1860's- to actually determine what you have, you need to look at the tiny hallmarks... It is definitely pre 1975 - and after 1932 - due to the .375 mark Can't find the WAP anywhere. My guess is that this was from the same era as when Rolex and other Swiss watchmakers outsourced their bracelet manufacture to avoid import tariffs. __________________ When the alien spaceships actually landed, to everyone's surprise, it turned out that the world's governments had not been hiding anything. They were just as clueless as the rest of us!

7 February 2010, 01:06 AM	#2
rolexsubdate Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Moon Posts: 1,238	MADE IN ENGLAND???? you sir have something rare: It is DOLEX band .... look how crappy the steel looks ... I bet you can scrape off the steel with a razor blade ....it is proably aluminum ... but be careful, it might crack into many pieces ....Look at the crown on the bracelet: 4 marks on the crown ...It is screaming "FAKE!!!!" ... I thought the crown had 5 .....it just doesn't have the steel finish/look .... I seriously doubt it is steel ....

7 February 2010, 01:07 AM	#3
Idle Swede Suspended Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Leo Location: Boca Raton Posts: 13,820	. Seems to be a 9K gold bracelet.

7 February 2010, 01:08 AM	#4
Idle Swede Suspended Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Leo Location: Boca Raton Posts: 13,820	. And yes, I'd like to buy it. Send me a PM if you want to get rid of it.

7 February 2010, 01:12 AM	#5
Lamone Banned Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NYC Watch: ya mawt! Posts: 3,448	Nice vintage band.

7 February 2010, 01:24 AM	#7
InVision Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Mike Location: Destin, FL USA Watch: Outerspace DayDate Posts: 2,662	Anyone know what WAB stands for? Mike

7 February 2010, 01:28 AM	#8
Renoir "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Renato Location: New York Posts: 2,396	Nice find...I'd certainly like to hear more about it.

7 February 2010, 01:31 AM	#9
rolexsubdate Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Moon Posts: 1,238	the MADE IN ENGLAND is disturbing .... it should say SWISS MADE, at the least ...could be an aftermarket item...look at the crown on the clasp .... it is going overboard and it has 4 lines .... rolex crowns have 5 lines ....

7 February 2010, 01:39 AM	#10
CoopJr "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Coop Location: U.S.A. Watch: Subs Posts: 6,455	That crown does have 5 points. I hope authenticating Rolex watches is not how you make your living!

7 February 2010, 01:47 AM	#13
InVision Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Mike Location: Destin, FL USA Watch: Outerspace DayDate Posts: 2,662	Also it is weird that every link is marked .375 Mike

7 February 2010, 01:57 AM	#17
sakuraba "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Jib Location: SJ, California Watch: sun dial Posts: 8,189	Expanding link bracelet? FWIW it looks genuine to me. Congratulations!

7 February 2010, 02:06 AM	#22
mikefrmnj Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: NJ USA Posts: 267	That's sweet. Any idea on year of production?

7 February 2010, 02:12 AM	#25
Cap Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Ft Worth, TX Posts: 49	A thead just doesn't get any btter then this.

7 February 2010, 02:17 AM	#28
acce1999 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: GMT+1 Posts: 2,711	Too funny! I've heard about those bracelets as well. Best, A

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