Rolex From 1910!

[imono]

As seen on ebay - not mine. Wish it were!
http://tinyurl.com/yakzsvd

This has got to be somebody's dream watch.
Is it rare to see something this old and in such nice condition?

[kyle L]

I would be careful, it could be a franken watch. The thing is coming out of Ukraine, and I've seen on the Omega boards that some of the stuff that they have are not real. It looks like a pocket watch conversion, never seen those lugs before.

[Jolu]

Very nice dial, but diameter 45mm? In 1910?

Not born a wristwatch, that's for sure.

[kyle L]

Originally Posted by Jolu

Very nice dial, but diameter 45mm? In 1910?

Not born a wristwatch, that's for sure.

Yeah, more like a pocket watch.

[kyle L]

This is what I mean:
http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trk...Omega+Skeleton

All of these Omega Skeletons aren't real, they're likely frankens coming out of Ukraine with the exception of the Speedmaster.

[Yazo]

Originally Posted by kyle L

This is what I mean:
http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trk...Omega+Skeleton

All of these Omega Skeletons aren't real, they're likely frankens coming out of Ukraine with the exception of the Speedmaster.

I think I know the answer is no but I'm going to throw it out there anyways :-) Does Rolex make any 'Skeleton' watches?

[kyle L]

Originally Posted by Yazo

I think I know the answer is no but I'm going to throw it out there anyways :-) Does Rolex make any 'Skeleton' watches?

I don't think so, but the closest you can get is a clear caseback. The only skeletons are replicas.

[imono]

After a closer examination the crown and the lug do not sit right. It looks like someone hacked an opening for the crown. And the other lug looks questionable too.
Talking about size, TOP THIS diameter diving watch!

[Yazo]

Originally Posted by kyle L

I don't think so, but the closest you can get is a clear caseback. The only skeletons are replicas.

I figured as much... thanks Kyle!

[Jackxv]

I think it's a complete fake watch, even the movement seems odd, Rolex normally has more engraving including mainspring barrel ed.

Also the balance is not OK for this era.

In Holland those sellers (Ukranian) even come to watch shows with these things, sometimes you can see old PP or VC movements. But always recased.

Also almost perfect old Tudor Subs, but fake.

Watch out!!

Jack

[Kokyuryoku]

I agree with you Kyle Definitely a pocket watch fitted with a strap. Although the idea of turning a pocket watch into a wristwatch sounds interesting. I wonder how it feels on the wrist.

[Kokyuryoku]

Originally Posted by imono

After a closer examination the crown and the lug do not sit right. It looks like someone hacked an opening for the crown. And the other lug looks questionable too.
Talking about size, TOP THIS diameter diving watch!

That's a big watch! Casio came out with a new Frogman late last year that's just a tab bigger at 58.3 mm. But there are even bigger watches out there like the PAM 341 which is 60mm!! I pretty sure there are some even bigger than this too. Beautiful watch btw

[Colours]

Looks really sketchy to me - although I have to admit that dial is beautiful.

It's the movement that does it for me - just doesn't look authentic at all.

[Alcan]

There's a small problem with that watch, look at these timelines:

1905, Wilsdorf & Davis is established in London
1908, Hans Wilsdorf registers the Tradename Rolex
1915, the Rolex Watch Company Ltd. is established
1920, the company is renamed Montres Rolex S.A

Given that the Rolex watch company didn't exist until 1915, and only a small percentage of watches were initially branded Rolex on the dials, that eBay offering might be a number of things but it certainly is not a 1910 Rolex, pocket watch or otherwise.

[DLagent]

I have no doubt that it's a converted pocketwatch - see how the crown is at 12 o'clock?

It's also very likely not a Rolex (although I know nothing about vintage), but a cool, elegant-looking, and probably somewhat unique piece anyway.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by Alcan

There's a small problem with that watch, look at these timelines:

1905, Wilsdorf & Davis is established in London
1908, Hans Wilsdorf registers the Tradename Rolex
1915, the Rolex Watch Company Ltd. is established
1920, the company is renamed Montres Rolex S.A

Given that the Rolex watch company didn't exist until 1915, and only a small percentage of watches were initially branded Rolex on the dials, that eBay offering might be a number of things but it certainly is not a 1910 Rolex, pocket watch or otherwise.

Have to agree AL and when Rolex did start to appear on the dials it was around 1 in every 4.At this time dials were blank for the various retailers to put there own name on.But on case back some just had a sticker the RWC now in the early days of wrist watches they were just basically converted pocket watches but not that size.