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DWdrummer · 14 March 2010, 02:51 PM

So I brought my GMT II to the watch repair shop. While the watchmaker looked it over I was looking at Subs. They had a stainless 16610 and a Bluesy 16613 model side by side. After trying them both on, and holding them, then trying them on different wrist at the same time, I love Bluesy.

The problem is this. I just got my GMT II three days ago. I do love it, its my first, but it doesnt grab me or pop the way the Blue Sub does for me. I literally had it on my wrist over an hour. The way the color changes with different light, the extra weight of the gold, the utter beauty of it all.

They are asking $5300 for it, and it looks new to me. I couldnt find a mark or scratch on it. They offered me $2k for my GMT II, big shock there right? I told them thank you but Ill be back.

My GMT meanwhile is running fine. The threads were dirty I guess. He found nothing wrong in there when he looked around. Set it, and its fine now. Im glad about that anyway.

What is a fair price to sell it for? I see them on Ebay from $3500-4000 lately.
I dont want to price it too high and look like a fool. I cant own both. It took me forever to get this GMT home it seems. If I can get a good price for my GMT and roll some tax refund money in, I can swing the Blue Sub fine. I just cant do both.

The sub spoke to me, and grabbed me.

Thanks for any input guys.

brianflemm · 14 March 2010, 02:56 PM

what year, condition, etc is your GMT II? I am possibly interested in purchasing it from you.

Gerry · 14 March 2010, 05:57 PM

This is the exact opposite of what I'm going through. I've got a 16613 (and think it's a beautiful watch) but for some time now, the one that really smiles at me is the Blue/Red GMT or GMT II. Good luck! I hope you find some way to resolve your dilemma.

Andad · 14 March 2010, 06:01 PM

Swap them Gerry.

When you change your mind - swap them back.

Woody · 15 March 2010, 12:07 AM

I would give yourself a little more time to get used to your GMT - personally it can take me a few months to "bond" with a new watch so I wouldn't be in too much of a hurry to flip it for another model. There are plenty of blue subs around so why not try to save some cash whilst you get to know your "fat lady".

HL65 · 15 March 2010, 12:12 AM

Agree!!

Deyn Man · 15 March 2010, 12:44 AM

give it time..

the bluesy is quite cool though...

sea-dweller · 15 March 2010, 02:36 AM

You have caught the "illness", the only known cure are more Rolexes...

DWdrummer · 15 March 2010, 03:22 AM

Thanks guys for the advice. My wife said to wait too.

She feels its only been a few days, and I will regret it later perhaps.

What is a fair value for my GMT II? I dont have the box or papers. Im curious as to what is considered a fair value for it.

Im going to wait a bit unless I come across a very good deal of course.

There is someone locally near me, with a Blue Sub, with all box, papers hang tag etc. He is asking $4500 or so, but it open to offers he said. I asked if he would go $4200 cash and he said yes. That seems like an extremely good deal. The watch looks new, and he offered to go to the jeweler of my choice to authenticate the watch as well. Im extremely tempted to just buy it and keep them both, but that would be a very bad move for me financially right now.

The lowest price I found a Bluesy for was $5400 plus tax, and that is going to run around $5700+ after I pay the man his 6% in this state. So the $4200 seems like a steal to me. I found one other one, with box and papers for $6500 plus tax.

Choices choices....................

bluemartinifan · 15 March 2010, 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWdrummer

So I brought my GMT II to the watch repair shop. While the watchmaker looked it over I was looking at Subs. They had a stainless 16610 and a Bluesy 16613 model side by side. After trying them both on, and holding them, then trying them on different wrist at the same time, I love Bluesy.

The problem is this. I just got my GMT II three days ago. I do love it, its my first, but it doesnt grab me or pop the way the Blue Sub does for me. I literally had it on my wrist over an hour. The way the color changes with different light, the extra weight of the gold, the utter beauty of it all.

They are asking $5300 for it, and it looks new to me. I couldnt find a mark or scratch on it. They offered me $2k for my GMT II, big shock there right? I told them thank you but Ill be back.

My GMT meanwhile is running fine. The threads were dirty I guess. He found nothing wrong in there when he looked around. Set it, and its fine now. Im glad about that anyway.

What is a fair price to sell it for? I see them on Ebay from $3500-4000 lately.
I dont want to price it too high and look like a fool. I cant own both. It took me forever to get this GMT home it seems. If I can get a good price for my GMT and roll some tax refund money in, I can swing the Blue Sub fine. I just cant do both.

The sub spoke to me, and grabbed me.

Thanks for any input guys.

Pics, condition, age, accessories please.

46and2 · 15 March 2010, 03:35 AM

Keep the GMT at least a month, IMO.

DWdrummer · 15 March 2010, 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluemartinifan

Pics, condition, age, accessories please.

Okay, I will let you be the judge. Its from 1986, and its a 96xxx serial, 16760 Ref. number. All original from what I can tell at least.

Rscmaine · 15 March 2010, 03:39 AM

I've seen Fat Ladies ranging from $3200 at a low to mid to high $4K

The $4200 is a pretty standard price for a non SEL Tritium Blue. If his is SEL Gold thru clasp with box and papers it's a very good price.

Tell your wife you're buying it to resell then mark it up to $5600 and show her how it sat for week after week without selling and - gee - you guess you better hang on to it til the market improves in a few years...

TimeToGo · 15 March 2010, 03:43 AM

Ooooh, the fat lady.

It depends on the service history. Is the bracelet original to this period. There appears to be a ding on the upper left lug.

DWdrummer · 15 March 2010, 03:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimeToGo

Ooooh, the fat lady.

It depends on the service history. Is the bracelet original to this period. There appears to be a ding on the upper left lug.

Its a scratch but doesnt appear to be deep at all. I cant feel it if I run my finger over it. I assume the bracelet is correct and original. It has "455"B marked on the end links if that helps.

As far as service goes, I was told it was recently cleaned in serviced in the last year. I have no reason to doubt that. Im going by the Rolex dealer tomorrow to have the back popped to be sure though.

I had a guy offer me $3K cause I have no box and papers this morning. Does that sound about right?

Im probably going to hold onto it a bit and think things over anyway. I appreciate all the help guys.

TimeToGo · 15 March 2010, 04:01 AM

You can probably do better, $3,500 ish.

What are the codes on the clasp?

TimeToGo · 15 March 2010, 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWdrummer

Its a scratch but doesnt appear to be deep at all. I cant feel it if I run my finger over it. I assume the bracelet is correct and original. It has "455"B marked on the end links if that helps.

As far as service goes, I was told it was recently cleaned in serviced in the last year. I have no reason to doubt that. Im going by the Rolex dealer tomorrow to have the back popped to be sure though.

I had a guy offer me $3K cause I have no box and papers this morning. Does that sound about right?

Im probably going to hold onto it a bit and think things over anyway. I appreciate all the help guys.

The endlinks "455B" are for a two tone band. If yours are SS, they are aftermarket

Speed · 15 March 2010, 04:14 AM

Dude, you just got your first Rolex! Enjoy it (for a while) man...

What did you pay for it again?

Seems to me you will take a hit given its condition etc...and if you are in a hurry to move to the next thing.

ParisDakarBmw · 15 March 2010, 04:20 AM

I'd have the GMT polished to help the resell. Honestly I'd slap a black bezel on the coke, and save up for the next watch. Don't just give it away. Shop around before making a purchase.

DWdrummer · 15 March 2010, 04:36 AM

The clasp code is 62510h. I paid 2100 for it. I love it I just love the blue sub more!

Thanks again guys for all the help.

TimeToGo · 15 March 2010, 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWdrummer

The clasp code is 62510h. I paid 2100 for it. I love it I just love the blue sub more!

Thanks again guys for all the help.

Is there a number after the "h"...

$2,100 is an excellent price. Have you had the caseback openned to verify the movement?

Eric5964 · 15 March 2010, 05:33 AM

There is only one solution....buy the Blue Sub and keep the GMT....( :

EricE

axjimenez · 15 March 2010, 05:45 AM

I would wait a little while. I feel your pain though

Rscmaine · 15 March 2010, 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWdrummer

The clasp code is 62510h. I paid 2100 for it. I love it I just love the blue sub more!

Thanks again guys for all the help.

YOU STOLE THAT WATCH.

Keep it for a while.

You are too new to this game to really know what you want yet - your's would benefit from getting the absolutely correct end pieces, a good service and light polish and waiting for the absolutely correct next watch.

In great shape with an RSC tune up you have a $4000 watch there. With a non RSC service it is worth around $3500.

The world is your metaphorical toaster right now. Slow down.

DWdrummer · 15 March 2010, 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rscmaine

YOU STOLE THAT WATCH.

Keep it for a while.

You are too new to this game to really know what you want yet - your's would benefit from getting the absolutely correct end pieces, a good service and light polish and waiting for the absolutely correct next watch.

In great shape with an RSC tune up you have a $4000 watch there. With a non RSC service it is worth around $3500.

The world is your metaphorical toaster right now. Slow down.

I believe I will slow down. Im thinking too much and moving too fast.
I have a Rolex trained watchmaker close by. I will have him service and polish the watch and hold onto it for a while. I have found four Blue Subs in my area for sale. I have seen no other GMT II watches such as mine. That says a lot right there.

If only I had the money to get the Sub and keep both. Oh that would be grand! I do like the Submariner more, but I think I will hold off for now anyway.

I dont really know what I want. That is true. I mean I want them ALL of course. I just love that Submariner.

JPersat · 15 March 2010, 12:11 PM

Just a little advise, keep the GMT Fat Lady, as the market is not flooded with them, save up some cash for a TT Blusey, and shop here on this forum in the "For Sale" section.

Bluesub · 15 March 2010, 12:44 PM

Rolex are addicting, keep what you have.... save some money and get one next year, that will be your goal for 2011...

14 March 2010, 02:51 PM	#1
DWdrummer Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Florida USA Posts: 954	Im in big trouble, I fell in love with a Blue 16613 today! Flip my GMT II? So I brought my GMT II to the watch repair shop. While the watchmaker looked it over I was looking at Subs. They had a stainless 16610 and a Bluesy 16613 model side by side. After trying them both on, and holding them, then trying them on different wrist at the same time, I love Bluesy. The problem is this. I just got my GMT II three days ago. I do love it, its my first, but it doesnt grab me or pop the way the Blue Sub does for me. I literally had it on my wrist over an hour. The way the color changes with different light, the extra weight of the gold, the utter beauty of it all. They are asking $5300 for it, and it looks new to me. I couldnt find a mark or scratch on it. They offered me $2k for my GMT II, big shock there right? I told them thank you but Ill be back. My GMT meanwhile is running fine. The threads were dirty I guess. He found nothing wrong in there when he looked around. Set it, and its fine now. Im glad about that anyway. What is a fair price to sell it for? I see them on Ebay from $3500-4000 lately. I dont want to price it too high and look like a fool. I cant own both. It took me forever to get this GMT home it seems. If I can get a good price for my GMT and roll some tax refund money in, I can swing the Blue Sub fine. I just cant do both. The sub spoke to me, and grabbed me. Thanks for any input guys.

14 March 2010, 05:57 PM	#3
Gerry "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Melbourne, Aus. Watch: Z Series 16613 Posts: 887	This is the exact opposite of what I'm going through. I've got a 16613 (and think it's a beautiful watch) but for some time now, the one that really smiles at me is the Blue/Red GMT or GMT II. Good luck! I hope you find some way to resolve your dilemma. __________________

14 March 2010, 06:01 PM	#4
Andad 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,230	Swap them Gerry. When you change your mind - swap them back. __________________ E

15 March 2010, 12:12 AM	#6
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 63,702	Agree!! __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

15 March 2010, 02:36 AM	#8
sea-dweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Dennis Location: Bay Area - 925 Posts: 40,018	You have caught the "illness", the only known cure are more Rolexes... __________________ TRF Member #6699 (since September 2007)

14 March 2010, 02:56 PM	#2
brianflemm Banned Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: North Pole,Alaska Posts: 67	what year, condition, etc is your GMT II? I am possibly interested in purchasing it from you.

15 March 2010, 12:07 AM	#5
Woody "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Africa Posts: 1,127	I would give yourself a little more time to get used to your GMT - personally it can take me a few months to "bond" with a new watch so I wouldn't be in too much of a hurry to flip it for another model. There are plenty of blue subs around so why not try to save some cash whilst you get to know your "fat lady".

15 March 2010, 12:44 AM	#7
Deyn Man "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Dean Location: Philippines Posts: 1,037	give it time.. the bluesy is quite cool though...

15 March 2010, 03:22 AM	#9
DWdrummer Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Florida USA Posts: 954	Thanks guys for the advice. My wife said to wait too. She feels its only been a few days, and I will regret it later perhaps. What is a fair value for my GMT II? I dont have the box or papers. Im curious as to what is considered a fair value for it. Im going to wait a bit unless I come across a very good deal of course. There is someone locally near me, with a Blue Sub, with all box, papers hang tag etc. He is asking $4500 or so, but it open to offers he said. I asked if he would go $4200 cash and he said yes. That seems like an extremely good deal. The watch looks new, and he offered to go to the jeweler of my choice to authenticate the watch as well. Im extremely tempted to just buy it and keep them both, but that would be a very bad move for me financially right now. The lowest price I found a Bluesy for was $5400 plus tax, and that is going to run around $5700+ after I pay the man his 6% in this state. So the $4200 seems like a steal to me. I found one other one, with box and papers for $6500 plus tax. Choices choices....................

15 March 2010, 03:35 AM	#11
46and2 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 98	Keep the GMT at least a month, IMO.

15 March 2010, 03:39 AM	#13
Rscmaine "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Nat Parkinson Location: Maine, USA Watch: me pull a rabbit.. Posts: 1,196	I've seen Fat Ladies ranging from $3200 at a low to mid to high $4K The $4200 is a pretty standard price for a non SEL Tritium Blue. If his is SEL Gold thru clasp with box and papers it's a very good price. Tell your wife you're buying it to resell then mark it up to $5600 and show her how it sat for week after week without selling and - gee - you guess you better hang on to it til the market improves in a few years... __________________ When the alien spaceships actually landed, to everyone's surprise, it turned out that the world's governments had not been hiding anything. They were just as clueless as the rest of us!

15 March 2010, 03:43 AM	#14
TimeToGo 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,671	Ooooh, the fat lady. It depends on the service history. Is the bracelet original to this period. There appears to be a ding on the upper left lug.

15 March 2010, 04:01 AM	#16
TimeToGo 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,671	You can probably do better, $3,500 ish. What are the codes on the clasp?

15 March 2010, 04:14 AM	#18
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,706	Dude, you just got your first Rolex! Enjoy it (for a while) man... What did you pay for it again? Seems to me you will take a hit given its condition etc...and if you are in a hurry to move to the next thing.

15 March 2010, 04:20 AM	#19
ParisDakarBmw Banned Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Paul Location: New Haven, CT Watch: 116610 Sub-C Posts: 6,552	I'd have the GMT polished to help the resell. Honestly I'd slap a black bezel on the coke, and save up for the next watch. Don't just give it away. Shop around before making a purchase.

15 March 2010, 04:36 AM	#20
DWdrummer Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Florida USA Posts: 954	The clasp code is 62510h. I paid 2100 for it. I love it I just love the blue sub more! Thanks again guys for all the help.

15 March 2010, 05:33 AM	#22
Eric5964 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Michigan Watch: Rolex/Omega/Brtlg Posts: 461	There is only one solution....buy the Blue Sub and keep the GMT....( : EricE

15 March 2010, 05:45 AM	#23
axjimenez "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Alex Location: Arlington, Va Watch: ALL OF THEM Posts: 1,705	I would wait a little while. I feel your pain though __________________ “It is better to lead from behind and to put others in front, especially when you celebrate victory when nice things occur. You take the front line when there is danger. Then people will appreciate your leadership.” Rolex 114060 Omega SMP 2531.80 Vintage Omega - no idea but dad's watch

15 March 2010, 12:11 PM	#26
JPersat "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Jarrett Location: San Antonio TX Watch: ing everybody Posts: 1,515	Just a little advise, keep the GMT Fat Lady, as the market is not flooded with them, save up some cash for a TT Blusey, and shop here on this forum in the "For Sale" section.

15 March 2010, 12:44 PM	#27
Bluesub Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Orlando, Fl Posts: 42	Rolex are addicting, keep what you have.... save some money and get one next year, that will be your goal for 2011...

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