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patek5107 · 24 March 2010, 03:18 PM

Hello,
I am the guy whose friend offered to swap my Patek 5107 for his Rolex Gold Submariner. The advice from this forum was - DO NOT SWAP.

I agree 100%.

Since that decision - the owner of the YG Submariner has said to me - please hold onto the Submariner for a while and please feel free to wear it!

So - I have the best of both worlds. A Patek 5107 to wear and an occassional Gold Submariner.

Since the situation unfolded I only have the following statement to make about the Gold Submariner - I HATE IT! (in the nicest possible way).

Why do I say this?

Well for the following reasons:-

1) It is too dam heavy.
2) The crown is way too large and annoys me
3) People I do not admire - like the Blingly Sub! People I respect admire the Patek in white gold.

I am so sorry to make these statements.... but they are true. Personally I would prefer to wear my (coming very soon) Explorer I. I am infact excited about wearing the Explorer but I can't wait to get the gold sub off my wrist!

Some scans :-

C. Davidson · 24 March 2010, 03:20 PM

Live and Learn. Enjoy your Explorer!

GradyPhilpott · 24 March 2010, 03:23 PM

I'm not really into diamonds on watches, but actually, that is a beautiful watch. Dials can be changed.

You did make the right choice though.

Mrdi · 24 March 2010, 03:24 PM

No Tossership for you.

Explorer ...Great decision.

Joey_V · 24 March 2010, 03:27 PM

I understand you don't like that particular watch... so give it back to your friend.

George Ab · 24 March 2010, 03:47 PM

Are you Canadian? What is there to be sorry about? Your opinion is perfectly valid.

As for my opinion. There is a conflict in character of the watch as it is a sport watch that is “pimped out”. Reminds me of a football player in ballet tights. The diamonds and the emeralds are a tad over the top. I have only had gold watches with the head unit so I cannot attest to the added weight with the gold bracelet. Personally I like the weight and feel of gold…allot. Now your Patek is a true dress watch, that is both elegant, refined, and drop dead gorgeous. The Explorer is a lovely sport watch, clean and simple.

All the best,
George

PS: Nice pics.

Gerardus · 24 March 2010, 04:49 PM

I am sorry, but i like your sub a lot.

icnbne · 24 March 2010, 05:41 PM

i would never trade your patek for the sub, but i think the sub is great also... and the heft, that is the heft of 18k gold

acce1999 · 24 March 2010, 05:46 PM

You are truly a lucky guy! How many people own a Patek, and have friends that lends them their gold Rolex? I congratulate you to this, also to the coming Explorer, that is one of my favourites.

Give the Rolex back to your friend, but do not let him know that you hate it.

BTW: Are you sure you hate it? Perhaps you really like it, but your self image do not allow gold watches? This is the fact for me. I like many of the gold watches especially the Daytonas and the new WG sub, but since I am not "a gold watch person" I do not own any...

Best,

A

P.S. I would also pick the Patek. No doubt about that.

chrislkb · 24 March 2010, 07:06 PM

Get both and less holidays? I still prefer the PP IMHO

bayerische · 24 March 2010, 07:31 PM

Nice friend you have though...

Fiery · 24 March 2010, 07:36 PM

I think the heaviness of an all-gold watch could be a wonderful thing. As long as you understand it's heavy because it contains a lot of precious material, and you appreciate that fact.

For an everday wear I would surely opt for a non-all-gold watch. But it would be nice to wear such a gold "clunker" occasionaly. With no diamonds though...

gone-rolex-mad · 24 March 2010, 08:11 PM

PP is a great watch, you did the right thing

AstroBoy · 24 March 2010, 09:48 PM

..."Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder" ....

HL65 · 24 March 2010, 09:53 PM

Not a fan of that watch either--Love the WG SUb or the plain YG one--not champagne Serti myself.

Kapture1 · 24 March 2010, 09:56 PM

Never liked the Gold/Blue combo myself... reminds me of some sailor boys watch, esp with the diamonds, and I could never see myself wearing it with anything I own.

lolo96706 · 24 March 2010, 10:34 PM

At least you got to try the Sub with no strings and now know for sure. Enjoy your Patek.

Green Arrow · 24 March 2010, 10:48 PM

Idle Swede · 24 March 2010, 10:53 PM

I liked mine as well and would rather be wearing it than a plain old looking 5107 Calatrava.

Green Arrow · 24 March 2010, 10:57 PM

And I realized that I was being forced to negotiate vendor and contractor pricing down in order to keep from going under on projects, and that wearing a solid gold Rolex sent the message that I was taking food out of the mouths of others, while flaunting personal wealth.

Frankly, in this era, I wouldn't wear a Patek either. My "bling" watch these days is a Breitling Super Avenger, with the bling being the downside and the HUGE subdials being readable for my 59 year old eyes without reading glasses.

And my new Seiko $300 Sinn look alike makes me feel much better about the truth of our modern economy and why I need those working with me to be as frugal as I have become.

I'm afraid that gold Rolexes and Patek Phillippe watches are part of an oligarchy these days that says to me...... "I had enough money to help my local charities, food banks, family, and employees, but I'd rather put the extra $20K into a watch for me to wear.

Turns out that this is a false message, as most people with the money for a solid gold Rolex or most any Patek are employers, charitable, and do well for others, but that is NOT the message people see when they first look at you, and you never have the chance to explain.

This is a good watch for meeting with vendors, and it has better lume than the Sinn.

Bye the bye, has your friend seen this thread?

Roselló · 24 March 2010, 11:34 PM

I am sorry, but I really like that sub a lot.

kcmo · 24 March 2010, 11:40 PM

Wear what makes YOU happy!

marcinthemiddle · 24 March 2010, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Idle Swede

I liked mine as well and would rather be wearing it than a plain old looking 5107 Calatrava.

x2!
I happen to think the yg blue-on-blue Sub is one of the most substantial, classic and good looking solid gold watches on the market... true, the serti dial with diamonds isn't for everyone....but the watch itself?

ersnyder · 25 March 2010, 12:52 AM

Get what you like, not what you think "others" will like, and you'll be happy with your watch for many years!

mpkRolex · 25 March 2010, 02:25 AM

No gold watch for me.. I wish PP :) Simple and elegant and 99.9% of the population wouldnt care. Only those o.1% wiz would probably notice. Yet you know you have a gem...Smart isnt it?

VetteBandit · 25 March 2010, 04:47 AM

I would love a solid gold sub with a black nipple dial or the gold GMT with the green face

then again I would love a few of the PPs as well. To each their own

erwin · 25 March 2010, 04:57 AM

You are absoluty correct when you stated " you have the best of both worlds "!
I love it!

Hooper · 25 March 2010, 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by George Ab

Are you Canadian? What is there to be sorry about? Your opinion is perfectly valid.

As for my opinion. There is a conflict in character of the watch as it is a sport watch that is “pimped out”. Reminds me of a football player in ballet tights. The diamonds and the emeralds are a tad over the top. I have only had gold watches with the head unit so I cannot attest to the added weight with the gold bracelet. Personally I like the weight and feel of gold…allot. Now your Patek is a true dress watch, that is both elegant, refined, and drop dead gorgeous. The Explorer is a lovely sport watch, clean and simple.

All the best,
George

PS: Nice pics.

Common, we Canadian's aren't that nice are we ?? LOL

ayres · 25 March 2010, 05:04 AM

an all-gold sub with diamonds???? no way!!! keep the patek and get a stainless steel rolex...

rad87gn · 25 March 2010, 05:04 AM

I love the all gold blue dial. If I could have only one watch that would be the one!

24 March 2010, 03:18 PM	#1
patek5107 Banned Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Vegas Posts: 106	I am so sorry but I HATE IT! Hello, I am the guy whose friend offered to swap my Patek 5107 for his Rolex Gold Submariner. The advice from this forum was - DO NOT SWAP. I agree 100%. Since that decision - the owner of the YG Submariner has said to me - please hold onto the Submariner for a while and please feel free to wear it! So - I have the best of both worlds. A Patek 5107 to wear and an occassional Gold Submariner. Since the situation unfolded I only have the following statement to make about the Gold Submariner - I HATE IT! (in the nicest possible way). Why do I say this? Well for the following reasons:- 1) It is too dam heavy. 2) The crown is way too large and annoys me 3) People I do not admire - like the Blingly Sub! People I respect admire the Patek in white gold. I am so sorry to make these statements.... but they are true. Personally I would prefer to wear my (coming very soon) Explorer I. I am infact excited about wearing the Explorer but I can't wait to get the gold sub off my wrist! Some scans :-

24 March 2010, 03:20 PM	#2
C. Davidson "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: WXSW Watch: GMT (116710) Posts: 2,723	Live and Learn. Enjoy your Explorer! __________________ -Cheers, Chris #15,634 "The heart of the discerning acquires knowledge; the ears of the wise seek it out."

24 March 2010, 03:27 PM	#5
Joey_V "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Joey Location: Dallas, TX Watch: SS Sub 16610 M Posts: 3,824	I understand you don't like that particular watch... so give it back to your friend. __________________ Current Rotation: Rolex Submariner Date (M) - 1/08, Rolex Milgauss GV (V) - 2/10, Rolex SS Black Daytona (V) - 6/10, Rolex GMTIIC (G) - 5/11, TAG Heuer Silverstone (286/1860) - 1/2015 Former-watches: Omega PO/2535.80/2254, TAG Carrera/F1x2/Monaco, Panerai 312K/292L Wish List: Panerai 270/505, Rolex SMURF, Rolex RG Daytona, Rolex DSSD

24 March 2010, 03:47 PM	#6
George Ab "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: George Location: Seattle Watch: One of Them Posts: 6,924	Are you Canadian? Are you Canadian? What is there to be sorry about? Your opinion is perfectly valid. As for my opinion. There is a conflict in character of the watch as it is a sport watch that is “pimped out”. Reminds me of a football player in ballet tights. The diamonds and the emeralds are a tad over the top. I have only had gold watches with the head unit so I cannot attest to the added weight with the gold bracelet. Personally I like the weight and feel of gold…allot. Now your Patek is a true dress watch, that is both elegant, refined, and drop dead gorgeous. The Explorer is a lovely sport watch, clean and simple. All the best, George PS: Nice pics.

24 March 2010, 04:49 PM	#7
Gerardus "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Gerardus Location: down the drain Watch: ♕ Posts: 12,042	I am sorry, but i like your sub a lot. __________________ ♕126610 ♕126333 Breitling Avenger A17318

24 March 2010, 03:23 PM	#3
GradyPhilpott 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Mexico Watch: Tudor BB36 Posts: 34,418	I'm not really into diamonds on watches, but actually, that is a beautiful watch. Dials can be changed. You did make the right choice though.

24 March 2010, 03:24 PM	#4
Mrdi Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Posts: 3,478	No Tossership for you. Explorer ...Great decision.

24 March 2010, 05:41 PM	#8
icnbne "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: J Location: Brisbane Watch: Rolex Omega Seiko Posts: 1,562	i would never trade your patek for the sub, but i think the sub is great also... and the heft, that is the heft of 18k gold __________________ https://www.instagram.com/invites/co...ontent=5yeough

24 March 2010, 05:46 PM	#9
acce1999 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: GMT+1 Posts: 2,711	You are truly a lucky guy! How many people own a Patek, and have friends that lends them their gold Rolex? I congratulate you to this, also to the coming Explorer, that is one of my favourites. Give the Rolex back to your friend, but do not let him know that you hate it. BTW: Are you sure you hate it? Perhaps you really like it, but your self image do not allow gold watches? This is the fact for me. I like many of the gold watches especially the Daytonas and the new WG sub, but since I am not "a gold watch person" I do not own any... Best, A P.S. I would also pick the Patek. No doubt about that.

24 March 2010, 07:06 PM	#10
chrislkb "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Christopher Location: Singapore Watch: out kiddo! Posts: 1,033	Get both and less holidays? I still prefer the PP IMHO __________________ Viva La Rolex

24 March 2010, 07:31 PM	#11
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	Nice friend you have though... __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

24 March 2010, 07:36 PM	#12
Fiery "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Europe Watch: Sub-C 116610LN Posts: 2,649	I think the heaviness of an all-gold watch could be a wonderful thing. As long as you understand it's heavy because it contains a lot of precious material, and you appreciate that fact. For an everday wear I would surely opt for a non-all-gold watch. But it would be nice to wear such a gold "clunker" occasionaly. With no diamonds though...

24 March 2010, 08:11 PM	#13
gone-rolex-mad "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Andalucia Spain Watch: WG daydate-Daytona Posts: 1,338	PP is a great watch, you did the right thing __________________ Choose to allocate your time to imbeciles at your peril!

24 March 2010, 09:48 PM	#14
AstroBoy "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Lucky Location: Ohio USA Watch: TT-Tona/EXII/Tudor Posts: 696	..."Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder" .... __________________ Astroboy "Life Is Not A Problem To Be Solved But A Reality To Be Experienced" "JJ - Your smile takes all my troubles away!"

24 March 2010, 09:53 PM	#15
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SUBMARINER Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 63,817	Not a fan of that watch either--Love the WG SUb or the plain YG one--not champagne Serti myself. __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

24 March 2010, 09:56 PM	#16
Kapture1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Matt Location: Flint, MI Watch: Ω 3570.50.00 Posts: 2,058	Never liked the Gold/Blue combo myself... reminds me of some sailor boys watch, esp with the diamonds, and I could never see myself wearing it with anything I own. __________________ Miss you JJ Wash out this tired notion that the best is yet to come

24 March 2010, 10:34 PM	#17
lolo96706 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Jeff Location: Hawaii Watch: Milgauss GV - V Posts: 202	At least you got to try the Sub with no strings and now know for sure. Enjoy your Patek.

24 March 2010, 10:48 PM	#18
Green Arrow "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: USA Posts: 1,060	I actually quite liked mine.......

24 March 2010, 10:57 PM	#20
Green Arrow "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: USA Posts: 1,060	But then the recession came....... And I realized that I was being forced to negotiate vendor and contractor pricing down in order to keep from going under on projects, and that wearing a solid gold Rolex sent the message that I was taking food out of the mouths of others, while flaunting personal wealth. Frankly, in this era, I wouldn't wear a Patek either. My "bling" watch these days is a Breitling Super Avenger, with the bling being the downside and the HUGE subdials being readable for my 59 year old eyes without reading glasses. And my new Seiko $300 Sinn look alike makes me feel much better about the truth of our modern economy and why I need those working with me to be as frugal as I have become. I'm afraid that gold Rolexes and Patek Phillippe watches are part of an oligarchy these days that says to me...... "I had enough money to help my local charities, food banks, family, and employees, but I'd rather put the extra $20K into a watch for me to wear. Turns out that this is a false message, as most people with the money for a solid gold Rolex or most any Patek are employers, charitable, and do well for others, but that is NOT the message people see when they first look at you, and you never have the chance to explain. This is a good watch for meeting with vendors, and it has better lume than the Sinn. Bye the bye, has your friend seen this thread?

24 March 2010, 11:34 PM	#21
Roselló "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: SA, Texas. Watch: * { SD & DJ } * Posts: 943	I am sorry, but I really like that sub a lot.

24 March 2010, 11:40 PM	#22
kcmo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: Karis Location: USA Posts: 19,377	Wear what makes YOU happy!

25 March 2010, 12:52 AM	#24
ersnyder 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Eric Location: Long Beach CA USA Watch: Rolex Explorer II Posts: 4,102	Get what you like, not what you think "others" will like, and you'll be happy with your watch for many years!

25 March 2010, 02:25 AM	#25
mpkRolex 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Boston USA Watch: Pepsi & Starbucks Posts: 1,892	No gold watch for me.. I wish PP :) Simple and elegant and 99.9% of the population wouldnt care. Only those o.1% wiz would probably notice. Yet you know you have a gem...Smart isnt it? __________________ Rest in peace JJ! http://www.rolexforums.com/showthrea...light=JJ+irani "Rolex is highly addictive. Please shop responsibly"

25 March 2010, 04:47 AM	#26
VetteBandit "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: JP Location: USA Watch: All of them! Posts: 917	I would love a solid gold sub with a black nipple dial or the gold GMT with the green face then again I would love a few of the PPs as well. To each their own __________________ ********************************* "Eveyone has a plan until they get punched in the face." Instagram: @30threejosh

25 March 2010, 04:57 AM	#27
erwin - Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Erwin Location: Hollywood, Ca Watch: SD Posts: 1,032	You are absoluty correct when you stated " you have the best of both worlds "! I love it! __________________ Your watch silently speaks about your character! sd/datejust/tudor/a couple of vintage omegas/tissotMB Meisterstuck Bordeaux pen/MB Noblesse Oblige/Starwalker/MB Classique Fountain pen/MB no 149

25 March 2010, 05:04 AM	#29
ayres "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: honolulu Watch: whatever runs Posts: 551	an all-gold sub with diamonds???? no way!!! keep the patek and get a stainless steel rolex...

25 March 2010, 05:04 AM	#30
rad87gn "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Chad Location: Des Moines, Iowa Watch: Rolex, PAM, Omega Posts: 1,607	I love the all gold blue dial. If I could have only one watch that would be the one! __________________ Rolex P-Series SS GMT II Black, Rolex Y-Series Sea-Dweller, Rolex F-Series TT Blue Sub, Rolex F-Series Sub LV, Rolex D-Series Ladies SS/WG DJ for wife, Panerai K-Series PAM 112, Omega Speedmaster Pro 3570.50, Omega Seamaster 300M Chrono 2594.52

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