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Hotrod64 · 28 February 2007, 03:32 AM

About 7 years ago, a former shipmate of mine graduated from Tulane Law School In New Orleans. For his accomplishment, his wife purchased for him a very nice pre-owned Cadillac Seville STS and a SS Rolex Submariner. One day as he showed me the watch, he pulled it off and handed it to me. Upon examining the watch, I turned it over and saw that it had a partial display case back.

I had never looked at or handled any Subs before then, but I was surprised to find the display case back on a Rolex.

But now, looking back... was that watch really a genuine Rolex or a fake? Do Subs have, or have they ever had display case backs?

nko51 · 28 February 2007, 03:34 AM

Stone Cold Fake!

Scooby · 28 February 2007, 03:52 AM

Unless it was custom made (see, for instance, what Hannes did here (check the Glasback link): http://www.oysterworld.de/1/index.htm) or it was one of the rare exhibition back Oysters seen here (scroll down half way: http://www.ukwatches.com/frame.html), it's fake.

President · 28 February 2007, 04:07 AM

Fake or aftermarket.

padi56 · 28 February 2007, 04:15 AM

No modern day Rolex comes from the factory with a view glass back.Only a few were ever made,as prototypes, most are still with Rolex, one or two with collectors like James Dowling.

mikey · 28 February 2007, 05:03 AM

Well, I guess you can't always look at a Rolex and call it fake. You must read between the lines. I mean, I have an aftermarket president band on my DJ. Someone would probably call it fake because a DJ doesn't come on that style band. Thats why I don't share my love of Rolex with other people. I have a plated president band that is identical to my ss on my gold DJ. Someone would call that fake too because of the band being steel with no gold plate underneath.

tonelar · 28 February 2007, 08:03 AM

Sounds like a fake submariner most likely...

I wonder if the Cadillac had a Hyundai motor under the hood?

Hotrod64 · 28 February 2007, 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonelar

Sounds like a fake submariner most likely...

I wonder if the Cadillac had a Hyundai motor under the hood?

Good one Tony... maybe I'll call him and ask.

JJ Irani · 28 February 2007, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hotrod64

About 7 years ago, a former shipmate of mine graduated from Tulane Law School In New Orleans. For his accomplishment, his wife purchased for him a very nice pre-owned Cadillac Seville STS and a SS Rolex Submariner. One day as he showed me the watch, he pulled it off and handed it to me. Upon examining the watch, I turned it over and saw that it had a partial display case back.

I had never looked at or handled any Subs before then, but I was surprised to find the display case back on a Rolex.

But now, looking back... was that watch really a genuine Rolex or a fake? Do Subs have, or have they ever had display case backs?

Some great info here.....look under GLASBACK by clicking on the left hand column.

http://www.oysterworld.de/1/index.htm

sevoguy · 28 February 2007, 09:57 AM

Great resource JJ! Thanks for sharing this.

Mike

Hotrod64 · 28 February 2007, 10:05 AM

Thanks for that info JJ.

Alcan · 28 February 2007, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Some great info here.....look under GLASBACK by clicking on the left hand column.

http://www.oysterworld.de/1/index.htm

Looks like the manufacturer referenced in your post is back in business because a seller from Germany has had these listed recently, but with sapphire crystal:

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?..._promot_widget

Most have sold for around $100 U.S., I bought one and am waiting for it to arrive now. Like the Oysterworld article, I'm going to install it and have it vacuum tested. Any time I want to switch it back to stock, I can.

Alex Stylianou · 28 February 2007, 05:09 PM

Fake or custom

Scooby · 28 February 2007, 11:50 PM

Jeez Louise, I post a link and nothing. JJ posts the same link, and he gets thanks. Tough crowd.

Validate me!!!!!!

Hotrod64 · 1 March 2007, 12:09 AM

Sorry about that Scooby! Good info. However, the second link didn't come up for me. Thanks anyway though.

Scooby · 1 March 2007, 12:31 AM

yeah, the second link didn't really work. It's to James Dowling's site (padi referenced him as well) and talks about having one of only 2 known official Rolex exhibition backs out in the public.

Anyway, I was just joking. More ragging on JJ than anything else for stealing my moment of glory, since I only get so many of them.

28 February 2007, 03:32 AM	#1
Hotrod64 Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Real Name: Rodney Location: Jacksonville, FL Watch: 18kt RG/SSDJ, SSDJ Posts: 176	Submariner About 7 years ago, a former shipmate of mine graduated from Tulane Law School In New Orleans. For his accomplishment, his wife purchased for him a very nice pre-owned Cadillac Seville STS and a SS Rolex Submariner. One day as he showed me the watch, he pulled it off and handed it to me. Upon examining the watch, I turned it over and saw that it had a partial display case back. I had never looked at or handled any Subs before then, but I was surprised to find the display case back on a Rolex. But now, looking back... was that watch really a genuine Rolex or a fake? Do Subs have, or have they ever had display case backs?

28 February 2007, 03:34 AM	#2
nko51 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Real Name: Alex Location: USA Watch: TT Blue Sub Posts: 2,542	Stone Cold Fake! __________________

28 February 2007, 04:15 AM	#5
padi56 "TRF" Life Patron Join Date: Jun 2005 Real Name: Peter Location: Llanfairpwllgwyng Watch: ing you. Posts: 52,610	No modern day Rolex comes from the factory with a view glass back.Only a few were ever made,as prototypes, most are still with Rolex, one or two with collectors like James Dowling. __________________ ICom Pro3 All posts are my own opinion and my opinion only. "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop. Now is the only time you actually own the time, Place no faith in time, for the clock may soon be still for ever." Good Judgement comes from experience,experience comes from Bad Judgement,.Buy quality, cry once; buy cheap, cry again and again. www.mc0yad.club Second in command CEO and left handed watch winder

28 February 2007, 08:03 AM	#7
tonelar "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: Tony Location: san francisco Watch: Seadweller Posts: 1,368	Sounds like a fake submariner most likely... I wonder if the Cadillac had a Hyundai motor under the hood? __________________ It's a rarity that something popular is actually right... Wear 'em with PRIDE, y'all.

28 February 2007, 03:52 AM	#3
Scooby Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: Darren Location: Virginia, USA Watch: GMT Posts: 923	Unless it was custom made (see, for instance, what Hannes did here (check the Glasback link): http://www.oysterworld.de/1/index.htm) or it was one of the rare exhibition back Oysters seen here (scroll down half way: http://www.ukwatches.com/frame.html), it's fake.

28 February 2007, 04:07 AM	#4
President Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: M.Thatcher MP Location: Le Locle Watch: Bear Grylls Posts: 2,913	Fake or aftermarket.

28 February 2007, 05:03 AM	#6
mikey "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: USA Watch: Oysterdate 6694 Posts: 2,713	Well, I guess you can't always look at a Rolex and call it fake. You must read between the lines. I mean, I have an aftermarket president band on my DJ. Someone would probably call it fake because a DJ doesn't come on that style band. Thats why I don't share my love of Rolex with other people. I have a plated president band that is identical to my ss on my gold DJ. Someone would call that fake too because of the band being steel with no gold plate underneath.

28 February 2007, 09:57 AM	#10
sevoguy Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Mike Location: South Carolina Watch: TT DJ/Blue Sub Posts: 165	Great resource JJ! Thanks for sharing this. Mike

28 February 2007, 10:05 AM	#11
Hotrod64 Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Real Name: Rodney Location: Jacksonville, FL Watch: 18kt RG/SSDJ, SSDJ Posts: 176	Thanks for that info JJ.

28 February 2007, 05:09 PM	#13
Alex Stylianou "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: UK Posts: 1,785	Fake or custom

28 February 2007, 11:50 PM	#14
Scooby Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: Darren Location: Virginia, USA Watch: GMT Posts: 923	Jeez Louise, I post a link and nothing. JJ posts the same link, and he gets thanks. Tough crowd. Validate me!!!!!!

1 March 2007, 12:09 AM	#15
Hotrod64 Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Real Name: Rodney Location: Jacksonville, FL Watch: 18kt RG/SSDJ, SSDJ Posts: 176	Sorry about that Scooby! Good info. However, the second link didn't come up for me. Thanks anyway though.

1 March 2007, 12:31 AM	#16
Scooby Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: Darren Location: Virginia, USA Watch: GMT Posts: 923	yeah, the second link didn't really work. It's to James Dowling's site (padi referenced him as well) and talks about having one of only 2 known official Rolex exhibition backs out in the public. Anyway, I was just joking. More ragging on JJ than anything else for stealing my moment of glory, since I only get so many of them.

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