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HongNinja · 9 June 2011, 02:46 AM

Hey Rolex-Heads!

What are your thoughts on the 14060M models? I've heard dfferent opinions about the older(clean dial) ones having no COSC markings/etc.

What are your takes on this model?

Thanks!

Dr. Robert · 9 June 2011, 02:49 AM

they are all good.....some may prefer the non cosc, less writing....some may prefer
COSC certification.......I just like that this model still has lug holes!

padi56 · 9 June 2011, 02:51 AM

Except for a few fonts all the 14060M are the same only differnce now they are COSC tested but exactly the same movement. Myself prefer the non COSC dial, the COSC test today is IMHO just purely marketing.

Jake B · 9 June 2011, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Robert

they are all good.....some may prefer the non cosc, less writing....some may prefer
COSC certification.......I just like that this model still has lug holes!

I agree...I just liked that it's the last "classic" style Rolex that I could still get new and under warantee (mine's from Dec 2009) and still has lug-holes and the good bracelet. BTW...to all the guys who love the all solid bracelet...That used to be the way to tell a fake. It's easy to drill holes in solid steel and make a heavy solid bracelet, it's also easy to make a folded/stamped bracelet, but to make those thick outer, "solid-hollow" lightweight center links has always been something that only Rolex could do right.

14060M, whether COSC or not, is a killer watch. So, do I get my danged Curmudgeon Card yet, or what??

Grumpy Badger · 9 June 2011, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Jake B

I agree...I just liked that it's the last "classic" style Rolex that I could still get new and under warantee (mine's from Dec 2009) and still has lug-holes and the good bracelet. BTW...to all the guys who love the all solid bracelet...That used to be the way to tell a fake. It's easy to drill holes in solid steel and make a heavy solid bracelet, it's also easy to make a folded/stamped bracelet, but to make those thick outer, "solid-hollow" lightweight center links has always been something that only Rolex could do right.

14060M, whether COSC or not, is a killer watch. So, do I get my danged Curmudgeon Card yet, or what??

Well said, that man!!!

I'm sure The Doc will welcome you to the Curmudgeons with open arms!

As head of security, though, I must warn you... If you ever go ceramic you'd better be prepared to never spend two nights in the same place again...!

I like the four line dial, but that's just me.

It annoys me when I here all the 'it's more of a tool watch with the cleaner dial' malarkey.

Comex added a huuuge logo to theirs, the MoD added a big Circle T to theirs and a lot of real vintage subs had the four line dial...

Something tells me that Comex divers and the Swimmer Canoeists of the S.B.S. would have complained had their dials been too cluttered! (and, in the case of the latter, Rolex would have been well advised to listen!

).

Jake B · 9 June 2011, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Grumpy Badger

Well said, that man!!!

I'm sure The Doc will welcome you to the Curmudgeons with open arms!

As head of security, though, I must warn you... If you ever go ceramic you'd better be prepared to never spend two nights in the same place again...!

I like the four line dial, but that's just me.

It annoys me when I here all the 'it's more of a tool watch with the cleaner dial' malarkey.

Comex added a huuuge logo to theirs, the MoD added a big Circle T to theirs and a lot of real vintage subs had the four line dial...

Something tells me that Comex divers and the Swimmer Canoeists of the S.B.S. would have complained had their dials been too cluttered! (and, in the case of the latter, Rolex would have been well advised to listen!

).

No worries..Ceramic's fer terlit bowls and sparkplugs only as far as I'm concerned.

I like the COSC dial, too..It's the same as Steve McQueen used to look at, dammit.

So, with this, and a fine welcome from The Doc, I add my newly acquired signature..

Grumpy Badger · 9 June 2011, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Jake B

No worries..Ceramic's fer terlit bowls and sparkplugs only as far as I'm concerned.

I like the COSC dial, too..It's the same as Steve McQueen used to look at, dammit.

So, with this, and a fine welcome from The Doc, I add my newly acquired signature..

Where is it then?

Oh, and I agree about 'terlit bowls'!

Dr. Robert · 9 June 2011, 03:35 AM

a thread on the venerable & ever-green 14060 submariner.........and a gathering of curmudgeons........hello to all curmudgeons.......and be kind & helpful to those lost-farts-in-a-blizzard who have ceramics, they are still our Rolex brothers.

ally · 9 June 2011, 03:45 AM

I knew I shouldnt have come in here

Grumpy Badger · 9 June 2011, 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ally

I knew I shouldnt have come in here

Your Explorer II is a fine curmudgeonly watch... Better still if it has lug holes!

ally · 9 June 2011, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Grumpy Badger

Your Explorer II is a fine curmudgeonly watch... Better still if it has lug holes!

Go away........I dont want to be in here

I must go to the "For sale" section

TONY!!!!!!!!!!!!

ec51 · 9 June 2011, 04:37 AM

Can't go wrong with either...it's a classic!

UJU · 9 June 2011, 04:44 AM

The 14060M has everything that is right about Rolex.
IMO it has kept the true spirit of the early Sub's, and still has the convenience of a modern watch.
You just gotta love that clean look, rattly bracelet, lug holes and slim case.
Here's mine:

stockae92 · 9 June 2011, 06:00 AM

One of the most comfortable watch to wear, I can wear it 24/7.

I go for the COSC version because I like the dial better and the watch is more recent.

And one of the main reason, beside the being close to the history of Submariner, is the lug holes (in modern Rolex)

Megalobyte · 9 June 2011, 06:44 AM

My 116610 has invisible ceramic lug holes, only I can see them, stealthy.

rolexpawn · 9 June 2011, 08:37 AM

Bruno C · 9 June 2011, 08:54 AM

It's the simplicity itself!!
A classic. I prefer the SCOC edition.
Here´s a photo of my 14060M that I took a minutes ago, as I was reading this tread.

Grumpy Badger · 9 June 2011, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Bruno C

It's the simplicity itself!!
A classic. I prefer the SCOC edition.
Here´s a photo of my 14060M that I took a minutes ago, as I was reading this tread.

Muy bien!

HKtoter · 9 June 2011, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Jake B

No worries..Ceramic's fer terlit bowls and sparkplugs only as far as I'm concerned.

Well said

Grumpy Badger · 9 June 2011, 09:06 AM

Here's my COSC

stylinleems · 9 June 2011, 09:06 AM

I liked the COSC model ..

evanvito · 9 June 2011, 09:07 AM

This is going to be my next Rolex. Gotta have a sub in my collection and this is it. Classic looks, symmetrical dial, and no cyclops.

Mtrap · 9 June 2011, 09:22 AM

I know that the 14060 and 14060M are of different movement. One is the 3000 and the other a 3130 (correct me if I am wrong). In term of robustness. Is there any different? Maybe those who truly wear them as "work" watch can help to answer?

I am asking is because the best bet would to get the newer movement with the older look. Both in the world.

And is there a submariner with a 3135 movement? I remember reading it somewhere. But I understand the 3135 is in the EX II.

Grumpy Badger · 9 June 2011, 09:26 AM

I've got a 14060M... Can't vouch for the non-M but mine certainly works for a living with no problem at all!

Art 1 · 9 June 2011, 09:27 AM

It's a classic. Well worth owning.

Dr. Robert · 9 June 2011, 10:31 AM

the Rolex submariner.....an icon in both the watch world & the dive watch world.....

JimSnyder · 9 June 2011, 11:14 AM

The 14060 is perfection! It's the only one I want

bluemartinifan · 9 June 2011, 11:43 AM

The 14060 and Dr. Robert - 2 icons with patina, experience and stories to tell...

2 liner or 4 liner > both are the "last hurrah"

dannyt · 9 June 2011, 11:44 AM

Can't bite my tongue any longer: A sea of ceramics? Numbers-wise there are WAY more non-ceramic subs out there, and anyone who suffers by buying a new ceramic is living in a fantasy world. Funny joke

On a side not, I really do like the 14060M and feel a bit of resentment because my bank account knows it's coming (+ a 5513 or 1680 shortly afterwards).

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wokafu · 9 June 2011, 12:02 PM

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9 June 2011, 02:46 AM	#1
HongNinja Banned Join Date: May 2011 Location: On Earth Watch: 228238, 114060 Posts: 1,347	Submariner 14060M Hey Rolex-Heads! What are your thoughts on the 14060M models? I've heard dfferent opinions about the older(clean dial) ones having no COSC markings/etc. What are your takes on this model? Thanks!

9 June 2011, 02:49 AM	#2
Dr. Robert 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Bob Location: U.S.A. Watch: 1655 Posts: 63,634	they are all good.....some may prefer the non cosc, less writing....some may prefer COSC certification.......I just like that this model still has lug holes! __________________ Founder & Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

9 June 2011, 02:51 AM	#3
padi56 "TRF" Life Patron Join Date: Jun 2005 Real Name: Peter Location: Llanfairpwllgwyng Watch: ing you. Posts: 52,946	Except for a few fonts all the 14060M are the same only differnce now they are COSC tested but exactly the same movement. Myself prefer the non COSC dial, the COSC test today is IMHO just purely marketing. __________________ ICom Pro3 All posts are my own opinion and my opinion only. "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop. Now is the only time you actually own the time, Place no faith in time, for the clock may soon be still for ever." Good Judgement comes from experience,experience comes from Bad Judgement,.Buy quality, cry once; buy cheap, cry again and again. www.mc0yad.club Second in command CEO and left handed watch winder

9 June 2011, 03:35 AM	#8
Dr. Robert 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Bob Location: U.S.A. Watch: 1655 Posts: 63,634	a thread on the venerable & ever-green 14060 submariner.........and a gathering of curmudgeons........hello to all curmudgeons.......and be kind & helpful to those lost-farts-in-a-blizzard who have ceramics, they are still our Rolex brothers. __________________ Founder & Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

9 June 2011, 03:45 AM	#9
ally "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Real Name: Alan Location: london Watch: Explorer II Posts: 790	I knew I shouldnt have come in here __________________ 14060M Explorer II TT DJ. 16610 LV.

9 June 2011, 04:44 AM	#13
UJU "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Norway Watch: 14060M Posts: 274	The 14060M has everything that is right about Rolex. IMO it has kept the true spirit of the early Sub's, and still has the convenience of a modern watch. You just gotta love that clean look, rattly bracelet, lug holes and slim case. Here's mine:

9 June 2011, 06:00 AM	#14
stockae92 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 4,940	One of the most comfortable watch to wear, I can wear it 24/7. I go for the COSC version because I like the dial better and the watch is more recent. And one of the main reason, beside the being close to the history of Submariner, is the lug holes (in modern Rolex)

9 June 2011, 06:44 AM	#15
Megalobyte "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: Ari Location: Florida Watch: ...me go broke Posts: 2,428	My 116610 has invisible ceramic lug holes, only I can see them, stealthy.

9 June 2011, 09:06 AM	#20
Grumpy Badger "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: Mark Location: Bonny Scotland Watch: 14060M Sub (cosc) Posts: 5,280	Here's my COSC __________________ Don't mind me. I'm full of scotch, bitterness and impure thoughts! "You have enemies? Good! That means you stood up for something, sometime in your life." Sir Winston Leonard Spencer-Churchill KG, OM, CH, TD, PC, DL, FRS.

9 June 2011, 09:06 AM	#21
stylinleems 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: N/A Watch: 116500 Posts: 3,203	I liked the COSC model .. __________________ Rolex: 126334 (BL) \| 116610LN \| 116500LN (WT) \| 116500LN (BK) \| 126710BLRO \| 116610LV \| 116710BLNR

9 June 2011, 09:07 AM	#22
evanvito "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Real Name: Lennard Location: Fremont, CA Watch: Explorer 214270 Posts: 408	This is going to be my next Rolex. Gotta have a sub in my collection and this is it. Classic looks, symmetrical dial, and no cyclops.

9 June 2011, 09:22 AM	#23
Mtrap "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Singapore Posts: 12	I know that the 14060 and 14060M are of different movement. One is the 3000 and the other a 3130 (correct me if I am wrong). In term of robustness. Is there any different? Maybe those who truly wear them as "work" watch can help to answer? I am asking is because the best bet would to get the newer movement with the older look. Both in the world. And is there a submariner with a 3135 movement? I remember reading it somewhere. But I understand the 3135 is in the EX II.

9 June 2011, 09:26 AM	#24
Grumpy Badger "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: Mark Location: Bonny Scotland Watch: 14060M Sub (cosc) Posts: 5,280	I've got a 14060M... Can't vouch for the non-M but mine certainly works for a living with no problem at all! __________________ Don't mind me. I'm full of scotch, bitterness and impure thoughts! "You have enemies? Good! That means you stood up for something, sometime in your life." Sir Winston Leonard Spencer-Churchill KG, OM, CH, TD, PC, DL, FRS.

9 June 2011, 09:27 AM	#25
Art 1 Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Florida, Canada Watch: Rol/Seik/Tud/Omega Posts: 30,244	It's a classic. Well worth owning.

9 June 2011, 10:31 AM	#26
Dr. Robert 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Bob Location: U.S.A. Watch: 1655 Posts: 63,634	the Rolex submariner.....an icon in both the watch world & the dive watch world..... __________________ Founder & Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

9 June 2011, 11:14 AM	#27
JimSnyder "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Real Name: Jim Snyder Location: Ohio Watch: Ask me later..... Posts: 7,717	The 14060 is perfection! It's the only one I want __________________ "You ain't lived, 'til you've had your tires rotated by a red-headed women."

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