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bayhillrolex · 12 August 2007, 12:21 PM

Where to the Rolex watches stores like Alan Furman sell come from... authorized dealers ?? I assume they are New-in-box !!

Tools · 12 August 2007, 01:11 PM

It's an interesting phenomenon, and take this for the price you paid.........AD's, most notably in Asia but elsewhere also, have a very high demand for Rolex watches. And they want watches with certain "lucky" numbers. They also want the "freshest" watch possible since having the newest, and best, is a status thing.

In order to keep fresh stock coming in from Rolex, they dump their stock at minimal profit.....Gray market Dealers who can sell lot's of these have standing orders in for these excess inventory.

Also, any slow movers due to poor numerology are in the dump as well. And, of course, there are AD's who just want to turn over their stock to keep in good with Rolex corporate.

So, stock is constantly moving...think of it as "trickle down effect". And, yes..most reputable Gray Dealers sell BNIB.

Downing · 12 August 2007, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Tools

It's an interesting phenomenon, and take this for the price you paid.........AD's, most notably in Asia but elsewhere also, have a very high demand for Rolex watches. And they want watches with certain "lucky" numbers.

By "numbers" do you mean the serial numbers?

Hmmm, maybe I should have checked mine before I bought it.

Er, I know 7 is supposed to be a lucky number and 13 is thought to be unlucky. Any other numbers I should look for?

Tools · 12 August 2007, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Downing

By "numbers" do you mean the serial numbers?

Hmmm, maybe I should have checked mine before I bought it.

Er, I know 7 is supposed to be a lucky number and 13 is thought to be unlucky. Any other numbers I should look for?

Yes, serial numbers....Did you know that 6's in some eastern cultures are lucky, so 666 would be a very lucky number, whereas, in western culture that might be the "sign of the beast"

However, 8 means "to make fortune" and 4 may mean death....etc.

roadcarver · 12 August 2007, 01:26 PM

yep, 8 in Chinese customs is lucky while 4 is unlucky. Its how it is pronounced in Chinese as it sounds similar to words like good fortune and death. I myself being Chinese in origin do not believe in those.

Downing · 12 August 2007, 01:48 PM

I've got a Z******.

Only one 7, one 6 and no 8s. Dang it.

Still, I'm feeling pretty lucky. After all, there's a nice ring to it if you follow the bouncing ball:

*+*=* and *x*=*. *-*=*. So if you take the 6 in the serial number together with the (*x*) 6 and the (*-*) 6, you've got Z666 as in zis is ze Sea-Dweller 666!

Have I hit the Chinese jackpot?

Ok, I realize this post no longer makes any sense, but I've been advised not to post my serial number. Can't do much about the quote below, though.

Rubenonfire · 13 August 2007, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Downing

I've got a ZXXXXXX.

Only one 7, one 6 and no 8s. Dang it.

Still, I'm feeling pretty lucky. After all, there's a nice ring to it if you follow the bouncing ball:

7+2=9 and 3x2=6. 9-3=6. So if you take the 6 in the serial number together with the (3x2) 6 and the (9-3) 6, you've got Z666 as in zis is ze Sea-Dweller 666!

Have I hit the Chinese jackpot?

You've almost got it, actually!

My understanding is that all the numbers are just added together repeatedly until you get down to one digit, so the serial number for your watch (which I would avoid posting, BTW, as legit serials are targets for forgers) adds up to two. Am I right? Anyone know what this would mean in Chinese numerology?

ohlins · 13 August 2007, 01:10 PM

one of my ADs told me that they export slow-moving models.........in order to make the batch more palatable, they include a few popular watches......

that's one way how these BNIB watches appear in the market....:)

puffnmo · 13 August 2007, 01:57 PM

Alan Furman always seems to have Daytonas and LV's. How does that work into the model described? Do Japanese buyers pass on a SS Daytona because of a serial # they don't care for??? Larry

frostie · 13 August 2007, 06:56 PM

great info about the lucky numbers. i din't knew of that.

SPACE-DWELLER · 13 August 2007, 07:29 PM

Most probable, a Rolex with ref. # like 16600 and a serial number like Z666XXX could fetch a nice premium in China.

Downing · 13 August 2007, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rubenonfire

You've almost got it, actually!

My understanding is that all the numbers are just added together repeatedly until you get down to one digit, so the serial number for your watch (which I would avoid posting, BTW, as legit serials are targets for forgers) adds up to two. Am I right? Anyone know what this would mean in Chinese numerology?

Thanks for the heads up on posting serial numbers and for taking the time to edit my quote.

dr_oldschool · 13 August 2007, 11:24 PM

I've got (4) 4's in my serial #.
Here's the the Chinese!

Rubenonfire · 14 August 2007, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Downing

Thanks for the heads up on posting serial numbers and for taking the time to edit my quote.

No problem, D. I've got your back!

toddb · 26 September 2007, 05:54 AM

the asians are scared of # 4 .....ever seen the gaming tables at a casino? they have NO # 4 skips from 3 to 5 ....

karmatp · 26 September 2007, 06:01 AM

WOW, I'm a little superstitious but that's bloody mad. You guy's got me wanting to check my #'s now. Thanks, I hope I'm not cursed.

aanthunter7 · 26 September 2007, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by karmatp

WOW, I'm a little superstitious but that's bloody mad. You guy's got me wanting to check my #'s now. Thanks, I hope I'm not cursed.

Yup, me too... but will fight the urge to trip out about lucky numbers on my Rolex...

12 August 2007, 12:21 PM	#1
bayhillrolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Real Name: C-rad Location: Louisiana Watch: YM116655 EverRose Posts: 308	Grey Market ? Where to the Rolex watches stores like Alan Furman sell come from... authorized dealers ?? I assume they are New-in-box !!

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roadcarver "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Vernon Location: C-a-n-a-d-a Watch: 16600 Posts: 5,641	yep, 8 in Chinese customs is lucky while 4 is unlucky. Its how it is pronounced in Chinese as it sounds similar to words like good fortune and death. I myself being Chinese in origin do not believe in those. __________________ I'm just a cook...

12 August 2007, 01:48 PM	#6
Downing "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Real Name: Downing Location: Portland, Oregon Watch: SD ExpII GO Nav ND Posts: 1,640	I've got a Z*****. Only one 7, one 6 and no 8s. Dang it. Still, I'm feeling pretty lucky. After all, there's a nice ring to it if you follow the bouncing ball: += and x=. -=. So if you take the 6 in the serial number together with the (x) 6 and the (-) 6, you've got Z666 as in zis is ze Sea-Dweller 666! Have I hit the Chinese jackpot? Ok, I realize this post no longer makes any sense, but I've been advised not to post my serial number. Can't do much about the quote below, though. __________________ One if by land, one if by sea, one if by air and one uh, just to tell time. Rolex Explorer II White Rolex Sea-Dweller Glashütte Original Navigator Panerai 183 G Black Seal Last edited by Downing; 13 August 2007 at 03:02 PM.. Reason: Had to delete my serial number

13 August 2007, 01:10 PM	#8
ohlins "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Singapore Watch: Rolex Posts: 1,213	one of my ADs told me that they export slow-moving models.........in order to make the batch more palatable, they include a few popular watches...... that's one way how these BNIB watches appear in the market....:) __________________ the hype is true. a crown for every achievement. visit my audio and watch blog & how to use the rolex comfort link?

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SPACE-DWELLER "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Bo Location: Denmark Watch: Rolex, of course! Posts: 22,436	Most probable, a Rolex with ref. # like 16600 and a serial number like Z666XXX could fetch a nice premium in China. __________________ With kind regards, Bo LocTite 221: The Taming Of The Screw...

12 August 2007, 01:11 PM	#2
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SUBMARINER Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,378	It's an interesting phenomenon, and take this for the price you paid.........AD's, most notably in Asia but elsewhere also, have a very high demand for Rolex watches. And they want watches with certain "lucky" numbers. They also want the "freshest" watch possible since having the newest, and best, is a status thing. In order to keep fresh stock coming in from Rolex, they dump their stock at minimal profit.....Gray market Dealers who can sell lot's of these have standing orders in for these excess inventory. Also, any slow movers due to poor numerology are in the dump as well. And, of course, there are AD's who just want to turn over their stock to keep in good with Rolex corporate. So, stock is constantly moving...think of it as "trickle down effect". And, yes..most reputable Gray Dealers sell BNIB.

13 August 2007, 01:57 PM	#9
puffnmo Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 848	Alan Furman always seems to have Daytonas and LV's. How does that work into the model described? Do Japanese buyers pass on a SS Daytona because of a serial # they don't care for??? Larry

13 August 2007, 06:56 PM	#10
frostie 1,000,000th PostMember Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Earth Posts: 14,048	great info about the lucky numbers. i din't knew of that.

13 August 2007, 11:24 PM	#13
dr_oldschool "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: College Station Watch: Breitling 41 Posts: 40	I've got (4) 4's in my serial #. Here's the the Chinese!

26 September 2007, 05:54 AM	#15
toddb "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: TB Location: SO Cal. Watch: Xplorer 40 Posts: 216	the asians are scared of # 4 .....ever seen the gaming tables at a casino? they have NO # 4 skips from 3 to 5 ....

26 September 2007, 06:01 AM	#16
karmatp "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Trevor Location: Arizona Posts: 5,740	WOW, I'm a little superstitious but that's bloody mad. You guy's got me wanting to check my #'s now. Thanks, I hope I'm not cursed.

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