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14 August 2012, 07:08 AM | #1 |
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Breitling v rolex
Just wondering every ones thoughts on build quality/finish & value for money of breitling against rolex
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Rolexes build quality/finish etc, is higher than Breitling, theres no doubting that. Both beautiful brands with some great watches to offer!!
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Breitling makes a quality watch. Some models still offer a good bang for your buck. Don't settle for less than 25% off at an AD - not a boutique - no discount there.
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Breitling are great watches. Buy it if you are going to keep it since they take a hit on re-sale. If you think you will flip it, buy pre-owned.
BTW, I love my Chrono Avenger on Ti Bottom line, if you want it, buy it.
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i am beginning to have a lot or respect for the history of the navitimer. the design is iconic but there maybe more chronographs out there.
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Its important to admire a watch for its beauty and craftsman ship, not only the designer name. When I was younger all I would think was "ROLEX ROLEX ROLEX", as Im getting older I've began to really appreciate Breitlings and im in the process of trying to purchase one now!
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For me the only Breitling i would consider is the Emergency ( the newer version )
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Call it heresy, but I own 3 Breitlings and 4 rolexes and I think the Breitlings exhibit a higher cosmetic build quality. My steel Breitling bracelets feel, look, and weigh like white gold. Even the new Rolex bracelet on my Deepsea, as beautiful as it is, feels cheap next to my pilot or navitimer bracelet. The crystals, bezels, and face printing are finer on tr breitlings too.
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Edit: For what it's worth, I own both and greatly admire both.
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Terrible resale unless its a Navitimer. Rolex holds value because of their retail control.Pay retail for a Breitling and you have instantly lost at least 30%. |
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Totally agree RE cheap movements (until now, I guess, we'll see how their new in-house stuff pans out), I'm just talking case, face, and brace(let).
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Between my wife and I we own 3 Rolex, a Daytona, a SD and a DSSD. I also happen to own a Navitimer 01 Ltd edition and a Blackbird Blacksteel. The Blackbird is over a year old and has not got a mark on it yet !! It's super tough. The detailing on the Navi 01 is outstanding, better than almost any Rolex I can think of. Whilst the Deepsea is my favourite Rolex, not ALL Rolex are better than ALL Breitlings, in my opinion ! |
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Breitling makes a great watch and I hope to have a circa 2004 Navitimer in my collection one day. I think every collection should have one along with a Speedmaster Moon Watch.
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I love the Navitimer but it still has a cheap ETA movement as a base. Here is a supplier that sells movements at RETAIL. Look how cheap a 2892A2 or a Val.7750 is.And Breitling bought truckloads.http://www.ofrei.com/page_183.html
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YOU ARE PAYING for the movement. Breitlings are retail close to Rolex-buying one at Retail is,well, a losing proposition. Breitlings cases and bracelets are very nice-but the movement is a very basic run of the mill mass produced piece used by ALL members of the Swash Group as well as countless other watch "producer's" They aren't "Manufacture" movements (not counting their new in house movements.) They start as an ebauche(-like buying a shortblock from chevy for instance )and they decorate them and put them in their cases with little to no improvement. So to ask how are Brietlings watches compared to Rolex- you have to include the movement. My point is compared to an in house free-sprungbalance with a Breguet overcoil as in the Rolex, the Eta although capable of good accuracy-does not represent Haute'Horology. The valjoux 7750 found in many chronographs is a very durable movement-that HAS PLASTIC PARTS. You don't expect this in a 5000 dollar watch. From a durability standpoint the free-strung balance (like on Patek Philipe,Rolex and A/P) has no regulator that can be jarred free throwing off the watches timing. The late owner of the Swatch group Nicolas Hayek was credited saving the swiss watch industry back when quartz watches were the rave. His company invested heavily in microtechnology- other brands didn't. Breitling was one of the ones that didn't,now that the Group wants to NOT sell movements outside of the company this made them INVEST and build their own INHOUSE movements. You buy the whole package and if you are going to pay Rolex money then buy Rolex quality and engineering. Yes Breitling's are nice. But IMO the engineering,testing,development and improving the art of watchmaking just does not compare. You mentioned the Omega Moonwatch-now that used a legendary column wheel movement made by Lemania (2310) and was called the Omega C.231 it is exquisite and was state of the art. It was later changed to the C.861 when Omega re-engineered it to a shuttle/cam type switching system from the column wheel. THIS is watchmaking. Apples and Oranges-just my 2 cents. But it IS history. |
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What I often find really strange on this forum is.....if an Omega, a Breitling or even a Chanel has an ETA movement its 'just cheap rubbish' but if the same movement is in a Tudor 'Its a great workhorse' ?? |
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Here here! I would like a new Navi soon if funds allow, however I will say that a lot of what Breitling has to offer is a bit overwrought and gaudy, IMHO.
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My Steelfish is a superb watch, solid, extremely well built and a bargain at the price. People can talk about intangibles like resale and snob appeal but I would stack my SuperOcean up against my Sub any day of the week.
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Over the years, I have owned (and own) both Breitling and Rolex. Breitling has always been flawless and the attention to detail is second to none. I put them ahead of Rolex when it comes to finish.
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i would have to agree with a majority of the above. Breitling has taken a cue from Rolex in terms of marketing and physically speaking they are amazing pieces, both in construction and finish. I would concur with above statements about the bracelets being finer than Rolex. However, as far as movements go, most pieces use ETA guts (except for some new in-house stuff they are beginning to put out). Resale isn't quite there but if you get 20-30% off at an AD or better yet in the Islands you may have a fairly priced piece. Breitling also seems to be moving towards annual price bumps which will synthetically add value to a discounted or pre-own purchased piece.
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Love them both but am into vintage only! For those going by movements, Rolex too used outsourced movements on it's Daytonas till 2000 and if we compare that to the iconic Navitimers, Breitling too has gone onto the inhouse movement bandwagon, though a few years late.
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i'd never buy a brand new breitling, vintage only
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I own two Subs and Two SuperOceans. Love all of them.
The Subc fells like it has the better build quality. |
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If I'm paying that kind of cash I want an IN-HOUSE PROVEN movement. Tough to beat Rolex in that department. As to the "workhorse" comment. Sure the ETA is a proven watch engine- would you buy a new ASTON-MARTIN with a small block chevy engine-It's a great workhorse- right?Whats under the hood and in the case MATTERS. That's why a Tudor ISN'T a Rolex. |
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Rolex here!
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I am so tired of the movement debate on Breitlings. I have owned litterally dozens of them, and as a whole they have proved to be incredibly accurate and reliable. And, they are built like tanks. Test drive the new superocean 44 before buying a new Sub or Deep Sea. one jalf to one third the cost, and it looks, feels and performs equally.
I think Breitling has done a brilliant job with their marketing, and I truly think that they have a fantastic lineup. Cheers. |
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