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Old 14 November 2012, 09:30 AM   #1
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Need close inspection of 1655 case engravings

This 1655 is being offered by a high feedback seller who may not know there is an issue (if there is one).

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ROLEX-EXPLOR...item589827ead8

I think there is a high possibility the case is fake as it appears to have the long E's that are the found in fake cases. If so, the case likely has been artificially banged up to make it look old. Here are 3 comparison pictures: (1) the 4 eras of genuine case engravings from Stefano's blog; (2) the case of the watch being sold; and (3) a known fake case. Note also the clear similarity of the "G" and the "R" in the word "REGISTERED" in the ebay watch and the fake case. Neither of which is found in the genuine engraving examples.

Other opinions please!
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Old 14 November 2012, 10:50 AM   #2
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The font on the letters and numbers are not consistent with any of the examples, blocked in nature. Definitely a reason for concern!.
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Old 14 November 2012, 04:06 PM   #3
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Fake for sure
Seller: f.q.watches
Let's put this POS where it belongs => reported
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Old 14 November 2012, 04:32 PM   #4
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It is an odd font - not like any that came from the factory.

But if a replacement case was made by RSC does anyone know what that engraving looks like?
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Old 14 November 2012, 04:49 PM   #5
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It is an odd font - not like any that came from the factory.

But if a replacement case was made by RSC does anyone know what that engraving looks like?
ASFAK all replacement cases start w a 4.x serial number. This does not. And in light of the striking similarity to known fake case, I'm inclined to conclude it is fake.
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Old 14 November 2012, 08:51 PM   #6
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I was offered a similar watch last year, proceed with caution. The long E 's seem wrong
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Old 14 November 2012, 11:38 PM   #7
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The left part of number "6" is totally straight, something that does not happen in any of the true examples (or in the known fake for that matter).
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Old 14 November 2012, 11:54 PM   #8
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long E is NOT good!
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Old 15 November 2012, 05:27 AM   #9
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I think the case is no good although it does no look like any real one it does not look like any fake I have seen before either.
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Old 15 November 2012, 10:02 AM   #10
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ASFAK all replacement cases start w a 4.x serial number. This does not. And in light of the striking similarity to known fake case, I'm inclined to conclude it is fake.
I see...thanks for the insight, I did not know that.

Well, I PM'd the seller and we had a cordial exchange that has resulted in this listing being ended by the seller. eBay wasn't pulling it apparently since he has never has a negative in many dozen watch deals.
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Old 15 November 2012, 10:06 AM   #11
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I see...thanks for the insight, I did not know that.

Well, I PM'd the seller and we had a cordial exchange that has resulted in this listing being ended by the seller. eBay wasn't pulling it apparently since he has never has a negative in many dozen watch deals.
Well done.
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Old 15 November 2012, 04:49 PM   #12
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Well done!
I recently saw a complete fake gilt 5512, with the correct engravery (including "E's").
Beware
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Old 15 November 2012, 09:58 PM   #13
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eBay wasn't pulling it apparently since he has never has a negative in many dozen watch deals.
If this counterfeit is listed again, we can modify this train of thought.......counterfeit is counterfeit,,,,,no matter the history of the seller. Please let me know......

Meanwhile a good result.
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Old 16 November 2012, 01:21 AM   #14
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If this counterfeit is listed again, we can modify this train of thought.......counterfeit is counterfeit,,,,,no matter the history of the seller. Please let me know......

Meanwhile a good result.
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