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wkhalaf · 29 March 2013, 04:36 AM

hey everyone ! just wanted to note that I was reading my rolex manual (which I bought early 2012) it says wind the watch 20 turns when it is on full stop .. and NOT 30-40 as many posts say

plz feel free to add in your comments :D

Passionata · 29 March 2013, 04:48 AM

20 is enough ,40 is fully wound

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George

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MonBK · 29 March 2013, 04:49 AM

Must be the recession, this is what one of mine says.

cop414 · 29 March 2013, 05:08 AM

I thought that I had read 40 also, might be the difference between "getting it started" and a "full wind"?

Dan Pierce · 29 March 2013, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by MonBK

Must be the recession, this is what one of mine says.

dP

wkhalaf · 29 March 2013, 05:38 AM

hahahahaha monBK "recession" lol !

but they didn't refer to a full wind .. they just said 20 turns

Im Lauf der Zeit · 29 March 2013, 05:47 AM

If you read some of the other threads about winding you'll see references made to both 20 complete turns of the crown and 40 turns through 180 degrees, which would be the same thing.

MonBK · 29 March 2013, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Im Lauf der Zeit

If you read some of the other threads about winding you'll see references made to both 20 complete turns of the crown and 40 turns through 180 degrees, which would be the same thing.

Olav16710 · 29 March 2013, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Im Lauf der Zeit

If you read some of the other threads about winding you'll see references made to both 20 complete turns of the crown and 40 turns through 180 degrees, which would be the same thing.

80 turns through 90 degrees?

smallcandle · 29 March 2013, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Im Lauf der Zeit

If you read some of the other threads about winding you'll see references made to both 20 complete turns of the crown and 40 turns through 180 degrees, which would be the same thing.

In 4+ years on TRF I've never seen a thread with this comment...

DJJon · 29 March 2013, 08:53 AM

FYI I recently overwound my Caliber 3135 Datejust. What happened was the mainspring engaged some sort if overwind protection detents that made any add'l turns very unsmooth and I thought I had broken it. Once fully unwound it has been back to normal.

So don't overdo it.

rmfnla · 29 March 2013, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DJJon

FYI I recently overwound my Caliber 3135 Datejust. What happened was the mainspring engaged some sort if overwind protection detents that made any add'l turns very unsmooth and I thought I had broken it. Once fully unwound it has been back to normal.

So don't overdo it.

That doesn't sound right...

Tudor66 · 29 March 2013, 03:07 PM

I asked my watchmaker about this issue of "how many winds is enough for my vintage sub and GMT"... He was very clear about this.

He told me,
"If the watch has stopped, wind it enough times so that the movement starts, no more."
His claimed that extra winding when not necessary could cause additional wear on the main spring and winding gears, etc...

This gentlemen, with his 30 plus years of Rolex repair has provided me with great advice so far, so I follow his instructions, and my watches keep great time with the limited winding I do...

I am curious is this makes sense to others...

T. Ferguson · 29 March 2013, 04:01 PM

My GMTII doesn't even start ticking until past 10 turns. Think I'll try an experiment. I know the power reserve on each of my watches so I'll turn each of them 20 times, 30 times, and 40 times and compare the run times.

Should be a simple matter to determine if 20 turns is a full wind since more turns would not result in longer run times.

MonBK · 29 March 2013, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tudor66

I asked my watchmaker about this issue of "how many winds is enough for my vintage sub and GMT"... He was very clear about this.

He told me,
"If the watch has stopped, wind it enough times so that the movement starts, no more."
His claimed that extra winding when not necessary could cause additional wear on the main spring and winding gears, etc...

This gentlemen, with his 30 plus years of Rolex repair has provided me with great advice so far, so I follow his instructions, and my watches keep great time with the limited winding I do...

I am curious is this makes sense to others...

Makes no sense to me as I've had watches that start after only 2-3 turns.

kirat · 29 March 2013, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DJJon

FYI I recently overwound my Caliber 3135 Datejust. What happened was the mainspring engaged some sort if overwind protection detents that made any add'l turns very unsmooth and I thought I had broken it. Once fully unwound it has been back to normal.

So don't overdo it.

i did that earlier today too! freaked me out.. it was scary sound. im hoping its nothing bad, reading your post sorta made me feel better..

Rogdogg · 29 March 2013, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by T. Ferguson

My GMTII doesn't even start ticking until past 10 turns. Think I'll try an experiment. I know the power reserve on each of my watches so I'll turn each of them 20 times, 30 times, and 40 times and compare the run times.

Should be a simple matter to determine if 20 turns is a full wind since more turns would not result in longer run times.

I'd be very interested to know the results of your experiment. Please post a thread once you have had a chance to do so.

padi56 · 29 March 2013, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tudor66

I asked my watchmaker about this issue of "how many winds is enough for my vintage sub and GMT"... He was very clear about this.

He told me,
"If the watch has stopped, wind it enough times so that the movement starts, no more."
His claimed that extra winding when not necessary could cause additional wear on the main spring and winding gears, etc...

This gentlemen, with his 30 plus years of Rolex repair has provided me with great advice so far, so I follow his instructions, and my watches keep great time with the limited winding I do...

I am curious is this makes sense to others...

Complete and utter nonsense when wearing with wrist activity the winding pendulum is still winding the watch.When the mainspring is fully wound a mechanism in the spring barrel lets it slip so you cannot possible overwind.Its exactly the same if you use the winding crown once the mainspring is fully wound it just slips. So you could wind the watch for a hour or so with no harm whatsoever except perhaps too your fingers.And will add most crown related problems are simply down to the winding crown lack of use.Even when worn it will do no harm whatsoever to give watch a full wind say once a week or so.And just look of all the millions of manual wind watches with screw down crowns Rolex included they got fully wound up almost daily without any like your watchmaker said mainspring wear.And a automatic watch is just basically a manual wind watch with a auto wind mechanism and myself would like to see where it states by Rolex to only wind 20 turns.

wkhalaf · 29 March 2013, 07:45 PM

thanks all for the interesting replies .. plz share your experiences I'm curious to know more :D

77T · 29 March 2013, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by wkhalaf

thanks all for the interesting replies .. plz share your experiences I'm curious to know more :D

Can you share a pic of the booklet page where it says 20 turns?

You know our mantra right? Pics or it didn't happen

wkhalaf · 29 March 2013, 07:59 PM

sure will do as soon as I take a pic and have access to my desktop .. probably by Sunday? that's almost 48 hrs from now if that's alright :D

hahahaha I like the mantra LOL

69mach351 · 29 March 2013, 08:07 PM

I usuall just give it a couple (if it is not running) and wear it. I have never had one stop if I am wearing it or even wearing it everyday. I have no reasoning for this, aside from 20 turns or 40 turns isn't something that I have ever needed.

crowncollection · 29 March 2013, 08:45 PM

You can not overwind it. I have had watches start after 1 or 2 winds

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HL65 · 29 March 2013, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tudor66

I asked my watchmaker about this issue of "how many winds is enough for my vintage sub and GMT"... He was very clear about this.

He told me,
"If the watch has stopped, wind it enough times so that the movement starts, no more."
His claimed that extra winding when not necessary could cause additional wear on the main spring and winding gears, etc...

This gentlemen, with his 30 plus years of Rolex repair has provided me with great advice so far, so I follow his instructions, and my watches keep great time with the limited winding I do...

I am curious is this makes sense to others...

False---Sorry but I have watches that are 50 years plus of age and have been serviced one or twice in lifetime(some never) and they all work and run perfectly! All of them are wound 40 times when taken out of safety deposit box and worn. Winding a watch will not hurt it and anything contrary is pure rubbish IMHO and experience.

Armyguy03 · 29 March 2013, 09:42 PM

One time at band camp I had to do a ruck march. I was running late and threw my 16610 on (on the Everest strap). It was dead stopped. By the end of my 6 mile ruck march it was happily ticking away. I'm 100% confident that it was internally wound wayyyyy over 20 times during my trek where my arm was swinging like crazy. Moral of the story, it's your watch, wind it as much as you'd like.

gpfps · 29 March 2013, 10:14 PM

Thanks Alan I believe your post is right on. Thanks for sharing what your watchmaker told you.

rmfnla · 30 March 2013, 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tudor66

I asked my watchmaker about this issue of "how many winds is enough for my vintage sub and GMT"... He was very clear about this.

He told me,
"If the watch has stopped, wind it enough times so that the movement starts, no more."
His claimed that extra winding when not necessary could cause additional wear on the main spring and winding gears, etc...

This gentlemen, with his 30 plus years of Rolex repair has provided me with great advice so far, so I follow his instructions, and my watches keep great time with the limited winding I do...

I am curious is this makes sense to others...

30 years of experience is all well and good, but if Rolex says 40 winds is OK then I am going to go with that...

wkhalaf · 31 March 2013, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 77T

Can you share a pic of the booklet page where it says 20 turns?

You know our mantra right? Pics or it didn't happen

Please see near the winding button description :)

MonBK · 31 March 2013, 05:19 PM

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wkhalaf · 31 March 2013, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MonBK

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Agreed :)

I noticed it this morning as well .. but why would Rolex say "20" for a partial wind and not mention the limit for a full wind ?

Why is it 20? why not say 40 for full wind ? or 10 for partial wind? or mention both full and partial?

so 20 is sufficient?

29 March 2013, 04:36 AM	#1
wkhalaf Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Bahrain Watch: DJ II Posts: 108	Note about winding your rolex hey everyone ! just wanted to note that I was reading my rolex manual (which I bought early 2012) it says wind the watch 20 turns when it is on full stop .. and NOT 30-40 as many posts say plz feel free to add in your comments :D

29 March 2013, 04:48 AM	#2
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29 March 2013, 05:08 AM	#4
cop414 TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Tim Location: Pennsylvania Watch: 14060M Posts: 71,877	I thought that I had read 40 also, might be the difference between "getting it started" and a "full wind"? __________________ Rolex Submariner 14060M Omega Seamaster 2254.50 DOXA Professional 1200T Card carrying member of TRF's Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons TRF's "After Dark" Bar & NightClub Patron P Club Member #17 2 FA ENABLED

29 March 2013, 03:07 PM	#13
Tudor66 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Al Location: California, USA Watch: GMT- Pepsi Posts: 3,462	I asked my watchmaker about this issue of "how many winds is enough for my vintage sub and GMT"... He was very clear about this. He told me, "If the watch has stopped, wind it enough times so that the movement starts, no more." His claimed that extra winding when not necessary could cause additional wear on the main spring and winding gears, etc... This gentlemen, with his 30 plus years of Rolex repair has provided me with great advice so far, so I follow his instructions, and my watches keep great time with the limited winding I do... I am curious is this makes sense to others... __________________ -NAWCC Member

29 March 2013, 04:01 PM	#14
T. Ferguson "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Left Coast Posts: 7,025	My GMTII doesn't even start ticking until past 10 turns. Think I'll try an experiment. I know the power reserve on each of my watches so I'll turn each of them 20 times, 30 times, and 40 times and compare the run times. Should be a simple matter to determine if 20 turns is a full wind since more turns would not result in longer run times. __________________ *Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.*

29 March 2013, 05:38 AM	#6
wkhalaf Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Bahrain Watch: DJ II Posts: 108	hahahahaha monBK "recession" lol ! but they didn't refer to a full wind .. they just said 20 turns

29 March 2013, 05:47 AM	#7
Im Lauf der Zeit "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: NYC Posts: 1,000	If you read some of the other threads about winding you'll see references made to both 20 complete turns of the crown and 40 turns through 180 degrees, which would be the same thing.

29 March 2013, 08:53 AM	#11
DJJon "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Real Name: Jon Location: USA Watch: DJ - Need Sub Bad Posts: 1,889	FYI I recently overwound my Caliber 3135 Datejust. What happened was the mainspring engaged some sort if overwind protection detents that made any add'l turns very unsmooth and I thought I had broken it. Once fully unwound it has been back to normal. So don't overdo it.

29 March 2013, 07:45 PM	#19
wkhalaf Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Bahrain Watch: DJ II Posts: 108	thanks all for the interesting replies .. plz share your experiences I'm curious to know more :D

29 March 2013, 07:59 PM	#21
wkhalaf Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Bahrain Watch: DJ II Posts: 108	sure will do as soon as I take a pic and have access to my desktop .. probably by Sunday? that's almost 48 hrs from now if that's alright :D hahahaha I like the mantra LOL

29 March 2013, 08:07 PM	#22
69mach351 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Midwest Watch: 116900 Posts: 1,066	I usuall just give it a couple (if it is not running) and wear it. I have never had one stop if I am wearing it or even wearing it everyday. I have no reasoning for this, aside from 20 turns or 40 turns isn't something that I have ever needed.

29 March 2013, 08:45 PM	#23
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,172	You can not overwind it. I have had watches start after 1 or 2 winds Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ watches many

29 March 2013, 09:42 PM	#25
Armyguy03 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: DM[V] Watch: 16710 \| 16600 Posts: 3,546	One time at band camp I had to do a ruck march. I was running late and threw my 16610 on (on the Everest strap). It was dead stopped. By the end of my 6 mile ruck march it was happily ticking away. I'm 100% confident that it was internally wound wayyyyy over 20 times during my trek where my arm was swinging like crazy. Moral of the story, it's your watch, wind it as much as you'd like. __________________ Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

29 March 2013, 10:14 PM	#26
gpfps Banned Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: George Location: Detroit Michigan Watch: 18078 Posts: 1,142	Thanks Alan I believe your post is right on. Thanks for sharing what your watchmaker told you.

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