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smith one · 15 March 2008, 03:45 AM

Saw this on e-bay. Item # 160217964093.

Whata' think real or not? Check out the story!

Sorry no link, my computer skills are minimal

cheers

Kevin

cbrenthus · 15 March 2008, 04:21 AM

Link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ksid=p3907.m29

Wow! New seller, no feedback, why was the watch taken apart by someone when it is only a year old? etc...

cbrenthus · 15 March 2008, 04:23 AM

Also, am I wrong, or is the pic of an older "Fat hands" series?

mking0714 · 15 March 2008, 04:29 AM

Kevin:
This looks a bit suspicious......here is the link below:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...0%3D%26fvi%3D1

His feedback is at 0 and he already has a list of terms and conditions stated to protect his own interests.
I personally would not buy this one.....unless you go to Bangor Maine yourself and inspect it........
Plus, let's say it is authentic.....how much can you really get it for?. Is the savings on this Daytona going to outweigh your doubts?.
I'd rather pay a little more for that piece of mind............Good Luck!
P.S. For future reference, highlight the link and press "CTRL" "C" to copy and then "CTRL" "V" to paste.......

Welshwatchman · 15 March 2008, 04:33 AM

If that is not a big fat scam then my name is Brian.

scottschoe · 15 March 2008, 04:35 AM

I wouldn't bid on the auction because of the annoyingly huge font and This Style Of Typing When He Answers Questions. No Paypal, 0 feedback, inability to spell, single picture lifted from another site? Right.

cbrenthus · 15 March 2008, 04:48 AM

Also, how do you lose a pin from the bracelet? I don't think I have ever seen a newer Rolex for sale with missing pins, and I haven't heard anyone complain of it here. Unless it is the pin on the clasp, which could happen, but they could go to any AD and get another. As mentioned, no pics, I would certainly expect pics of the band, since they already stated its got problems.

Also, they have the word "Style" at the tope of the listing, often times used to protect their interest when you find out it is fake. They come back and say it was sold as Rolex "Style".

On the other hand, being in Maine with a SS Daytona and no furnace is like being in the desert with a handful of diamonds and no water.

smith one · 15 March 2008, 04:58 AM

Thanks guys..I had no intention of buying it! I just thought it seemed
like a lot of work for what seems to be bull s**t.

To me it doesn't even come accross as remotely believeable.

cheers

ps mking0714..thanks for the computer tutorial!

Kevin

krattzz · 15 March 2008, 05:22 AM

I am going to buy this, drive 14 hours, meet him at a local AD, then punch him in his face.

Robb · 15 March 2008, 05:25 AM

There is no way in hell I would bid on that!!!

Scarface · 15 March 2008, 06:21 AM

[QUOTE=cbrenthus;501020]Also, they have the word "Style" at the tope of the listing, often times used to protect their interest when you find out it is fake. They come back and say it was sold as Rolex "Style".QUOTE]

Yeah, right "Rolex style" ...

tphan · 15 March 2008, 06:27 AM

funny stuff.

LinusSS · 15 March 2008, 06:34 AM

I wonder if he accepts paypal...

stevemulholland3 · 15 March 2008, 08:59 AM

man this guy is crazy.did you guys see all of the questions and answers on the bottom?
one guy was going to go and pick it up in person and then suddenly the guy said he would not be there for some reason or other.what a crock........damn theives

dienstuhr · 15 March 2008, 09:52 AM

>Before You Close This Page Please Take Our Telephone Number In Case This Page Gets Lost.

"in case I am reported to ebay for the fake peddlar that I am and this auction is deleted..."

kings4sap · 15 March 2008, 09:53 AM

Not that it will do any good but I reported it to the ebay police.

K4S

Defiancekofb · 15 March 2008, 10:51 AM

How does someone who is selling a high value item not use spell check before posting his auction?

juneja · 15 March 2008, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dienstuhr

>Before You Close This Page Please Take Our Telephone Number In Case This Page Gets Lost.

"in case I am reported to ebay for the fake peddlar that I am and this auction is deleted..."

...appears to be a central London (UK) number, and he's listed as a US member.

Uh??

juneja · 15 March 2008, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Defiancekofb

How does someone who is selling a high value item not use spell check before posting his auction?

is jus unbeleevabel.

Gaijin · 15 March 2008, 11:08 AM

Too good to be true, so its not.

Defiancekofb · 15 March 2008, 11:51 AM

Also how does he not have more than 1 picture for the item? and the shipping is $100 for UPS Ground 1-6 days? $100 should be good for UPS next day saver. This auction has shades of the fraud our fellow member encountered with the degenerate gambler who's sister paid him back, in exchange for not prosecuting her brother.

Either that OR someone high jacked this user's ebay account. It wouldn't surprise me if when the auction ends the seller requests you wire him money to a back account located in Malaysia, Indonesia, or Nigeria.

Again not knocking those counties but unfortunately they are frequently associated with fraud.

Rockrolex · 15 March 2008, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welshwatchman

If that is not a big fat scam then my name is Brian.

Hi, Brian. How are you?

Rockrolex · 15 March 2008, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluey

...appears to be a central London (UK) number, and he's listed as a US member.

Uh??

No, RJ. It's the area code for Maine. If it were central London, it would likely be written as 020 7631-3611.

robm · 15 March 2008, 01:14 PM

Look carefully at the picture. The bracelet still has the original "tape" protection over the lugs. If the tape is still there it couldn't have been worn. Plus if it is an M series, why was it serviced? Plus as cbrenthus mentions it has fat hands, not an M series.

Interesting "No We Won't Except $20,000.00 And Wire You Back A Penny. Been There Done That! " He's done this before? Hmmmm

scottschoe · 15 March 2008, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robm

Look carefully at the picture. The bracelet still has the original "tape" protection over the lugs. If the tape is still there it couldn't have been worn. Plus if it is an M series, why was it serviced? Plus as cbrenthus mentions it has fat hands, not an M series.

Interesting "No We Won't Except $20,000.00 And Wire You Back A Penny. Been There Done That! " He's done this before? Hmmmm

It's a stock photo, not his own.

Defiancekofb · 15 March 2008, 01:47 PM

Apparently this person is the seller of this auction

Quote:

Wire Only Will We Accept.May Do Escrow Paid By Buyer, C.O.D. Charges Paid By Buyer If It Is A Fast Service. We Never Used It, Bit Can't Wait Any length Of Time.

smith one · 15 March 2008, 11:20 PM

Removed

krattzz · 16 March 2008, 10:02 AM

He's back............new listing and even called out the person who reported him to Ebay. Click here and enjoy - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...id=p2759.l1259

Also, the title says - 100% Authentic Ralex 1 Year Old SS Daytona Watch!
What's a Ralex?

Now I see he has two for sale both with the same pictures - http://cgi.ebay.com/100-Authentic-R-...QQcmdZViewItem

Also the appraisal address is in Germany.

topcat30093 · 16 March 2008, 10:17 AM

If that is supposed to be an "M" serial Daytona, why has it got the "Green Hologram" marker on the back of the watch, we all know that Rolex no longer use this style and certainly not on a new "M" serial

:
I SAY FAKE! machinegu

stevemulholland3 · 16 March 2008, 06:17 PM

something is not right.however-how could you go wrong if you flew there(there are some incredible deals on flights going on)and meet him at an a.d. to have them check it out.
also that appraisal has another address at the bottom just a little ways from me.
good luck.
wish I had the time to go do this deal in person,I would love just to see exactly what this jerk looks like.

15 March 2008, 03:45 AM	#1
smith one "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Real Name: Kevin Location: Ohio Watch: Rolex,Panerai, JLC Posts: 297	E-bay Daytona whata' think? Saw this on e-bay. Item # 160217964093. Whata' think real or not? Check out the story! Sorry no link, my computer skills are minimal cheers Kevin

15 March 2008, 04:21 AM	#2
cbrenthus "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Real Name: Brandon Location: FL Watch: ing my second hand Posts: 869	Link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ksid=p3907.m29 Wow! New seller, no feedback, why was the watch taken apart by someone when it is only a year old? etc... __________________ www.bknicholas.com www.myspace.com/bknicholas

15 March 2008, 04:23 AM	#3
cbrenthus "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Real Name: Brandon Location: FL Watch: ing my second hand Posts: 869	Also, am I wrong, or is the pic of an older "Fat hands" series? __________________ www.bknicholas.com www.myspace.com/bknicholas

15 March 2008, 04:35 AM	#6
scottschoe "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: CA Posts: 3,295	I wouldn't bid on the auction because of the annoyingly huge font and This Style Of Typing When He Answers Questions. No Paypal, 0 feedback, inability to spell, single picture lifted from another site? Right. __________________ __________________

15 March 2008, 04:48 AM	#7
cbrenthus "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Real Name: Brandon Location: FL Watch: ing my second hand Posts: 869	Also, how do you lose a pin from the bracelet? I don't think I have ever seen a newer Rolex for sale with missing pins, and I haven't heard anyone complain of it here. Unless it is the pin on the clasp, which could happen, but they could go to any AD and get another. As mentioned, no pics, I would certainly expect pics of the band, since they already stated its got problems. Also, they have the word "Style" at the tope of the listing, often times used to protect their interest when you find out it is fake. They come back and say it was sold as Rolex "Style". On the other hand, being in Maine with a SS Daytona and no furnace is like being in the desert with a handful of diamonds and no water. __________________ www.bknicholas.com www.myspace.com/bknicholas

15 March 2008, 04:29 AM	#4
mking0714 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Real Name: Morgan King Location: Pasadena Watch: Pop Watch Posts: 111	Kevin: This looks a bit suspicious......here is the link below: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...0%3D%26fvi%3D1 His feedback is at 0 and he already has a list of terms and conditions stated to protect his own interests. I personally would not buy this one.....unless you go to Bangor Maine yourself and inspect it........ Plus, let's say it is authentic.....how much can you really get it for?. Is the savings on this Daytona going to outweigh your doubts?. I'd rather pay a little more for that piece of mind............Good Luck! P.S. For future reference, highlight the link and press "CTRL" "C" to copy and then "CTRL" "V" to paste.......

15 March 2008, 04:33 AM	#5
Welshwatchman "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Paul Location: Wales, UK Posts: 14,578	If that is not a big fat scam then my name is Brian.

15 March 2008, 04:58 AM	#8
smith one "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Real Name: Kevin Location: Ohio Watch: Rolex,Panerai, JLC Posts: 297	Thanks guys..I had no intention of buying it! I just thought it seemed like a lot of work for what seems to be bull s**t. To me it doesn't even come accross as remotely believeable. cheers ps mking0714..thanks for the computer tutorial! Kevin

15 March 2008, 05:22 AM	#9
krattzz Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: NYC, Philly. Watch: GMT BLNR Posts: 695	I am going to buy this, drive 14 hours, meet him at a local AD, then punch him in his face.

15 March 2008, 05:25 AM	#10
Robb 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Real Name: Robb Location: USA Watch: BLNR Posts: 4,939	There is no way in hell I would bid on that!!! __________________ 126610LN l 166610LV l 126619LB l 116710BLNR l 126710BLRO l 126720VTNR l 126718GRNR l 116500 white l 116500 black l 116508 john mayer l 116519LN l 116503 white l 126655 l 226627 Ti Master l 116518LN

15 March 2008, 06:21 AM	#11
Scarface "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Minas Location: London UK Watch: Rolex , Omega Posts: 1,370	[QUOTE=cbrenthus;501020]Also, they have the word "Style" at the tope of the listing, often times used to protect their interest when you find out it is fake. They come back and say it was sold as Rolex "Style".QUOTE] Yeah, right "Rolex style" ...

15 March 2008, 06:27 AM	#12
tphan "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 831	funny stuff.

15 March 2008, 06:34 AM	#13
LinusSS "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Chicago Posts: 17	I wonder if he accepts paypal... __________________ Rolex SS DJ 16200 serial U Breitling Chronomat

15 March 2008, 08:59 AM	#14
stevemulholland3 Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: steven Location: tampa bay Watch: 1680 18k sub Posts: 6,672	man this guy is crazy.did you guys see all of the questions and answers on the bottom? one guy was going to go and pick it up in person and then suddenly the guy said he would not be there for some reason or other.what a crock........damn theives

15 March 2008, 09:52 AM	#15
dienstuhr Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Canada Watch: Tritium 14060 Posts: 102	>Before You Close This Page Please Take Our Telephone Number In Case This Page Gets Lost. "in case I am reported to ebay for the fake peddlar that I am and this auction is deleted..."

15 March 2008, 09:53 AM	#16
kings4sap "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: Steve Location: The O.C. Watch: DD 40 Posts: 447	Not that it will do any good but I reported it to the ebay police. K4S

15 March 2008, 10:51 AM	#17
Defiancekofb "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: US Posts: 1,999	How does someone who is selling a high value item not use spell check before posting his auction?

15 March 2008, 11:08 AM	#20
Gaijin 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Japan Watch: ing your back. Posts: 16,179	Too good to be true, so its not.

15 March 2008, 11:51 AM	#21
Defiancekofb "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: US Posts: 1,999	Also how does he not have more than 1 picture for the item? and the shipping is $100 for UPS Ground 1-6 days? $100 should be good for UPS next day saver. This auction has shades of the fraud our fellow member encountered with the degenerate gambler who's sister paid him back, in exchange for not prosecuting her brother. Either that OR someone high jacked this user's ebay account. It wouldn't surprise me if when the auction ends the seller requests you wire him money to a back account located in Malaysia, Indonesia, or Nigeria. Again not knocking those counties but unfortunately they are frequently associated with fraud.

15 March 2008, 01:14 PM	#24
robm "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: colorado Posts: 262	Look carefully at the picture. The bracelet still has the original "tape" protection over the lugs. If the tape is still there it couldn't have been worn. Plus if it is an M series, why was it serviced? Plus as cbrenthus mentions it has fat hands, not an M series. Interesting "No We Won't Except $20,000.00 And Wire You Back A Penny. Been There Done That! " He's done this before? Hmmmm

15 March 2008, 11:20 PM	#27
smith one "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Real Name: Kevin Location: Ohio Watch: Rolex,Panerai, JLC Posts: 297	Removed

16 March 2008, 10:02 AM	#28
krattzz Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: NYC, Philly. Watch: GMT BLNR Posts: 695	He's back............new listing and even called out the person who reported him to Ebay. Click here and enjoy - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...id=p2759.l1259 Also, the title says - 100% Authentic Ralex 1 Year Old SS Daytona Watch! What's a Ralex? Now I see he has two for sale both with the same pictures - http://cgi.ebay.com/100-Authentic-R-...QQcmdZViewItem Also the appraisal address is in Germany.

16 March 2008, 10:17 AM	#29
topcat30093 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Tony Location: England Posts: 5,437	If that is supposed to be an "M" serial Daytona, why has it got the "Green Hologram" marker on the back of the watch, we all know that Rolex no longer use this style and certainly not on a new "M" serial: I SAY FAKE! machinegu __________________

16 March 2008, 06:17 PM	#30
stevemulholland3 Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: steven Location: tampa bay Watch: 1680 18k sub Posts: 6,672	something is not right.however-how could you go wrong if you flew there(there are some incredible deals on flights going on)and meet him at an a.d. to have them check it out. also that appraisal has another address at the bottom just a little ways from me. good luck. wish I had the time to go do this deal in person,I would love just to see exactly what this jerk looks like.

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