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Divergirl · 23 May 2008, 07:04 AM

I'm deciding between the SS Submariner Date (black dial) and the Seadweller. I know the Seadwellers cost a bit more - do you think it will be a better investment? (it's a gift - not for me)

Thanks!

walds11 · 23 May 2008, 07:07 AM

I prefer the SS Sub Date because it is a timeless classic. Nothing against the SD except for the fact that it is thicker and too much wrist flop for my tastes.

BigHat · 23 May 2008, 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Divergirl

I'm deciding between the SS Submariner Date (black dial) and the Seadweller. I know the Seadwellers cost a bit more - do you think it will be a better investment? (it's a gift - not for me)

Thanks!

Very nice of you to make such a gift. I'd say that "investment-wise" it's a wash. Watches in general really aren't investments.

Some think the new SDDS introduction, and end to the current SD, may spark a bump in the resale price. I don't agree, but wanted to share that thought with you.

Personally, I'd rather get the Sub.

vjb.knife · 23 May 2008, 07:08 AM

Don't count on any watch as an investment and unless the watch is for someone who is a Commercial Diver doing Saturation diving then you will get better utility out of the Submariner. Or you could ask which he prefers.

f16570 · 23 May 2008, 07:11 AM

The SD would be my choice but, you know who your are gifting it to.
Will they appreciate this "tool"?
Sub slightly more subtle.

Divergirl · 23 May 2008, 07:19 AM

I heard that they were making changes to the Sub - clasp and/or bezel - this year or next. Is this true - and does the SS M series already have these changes?

SPACE-DWELLER · 23 May 2008, 07:25 AM

Welcome to TRF!

Both the SS Sub Date and SD are excellent watches. Either would be a great gift!

Personally, I prefer the SD for its clean dial look, higher standig crystal and thicker case.

I found some reviews and comparisons for you that might help you decide:

Submariner versus SD.

Sub LV versus SD.

SD versus Omega SMP.

Another SD review.

As stated, it IS a win/win situation, so basically you cannot go wrong with either!

Best of luck!

BigHat · 23 May 2008, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Divergirl

I heard that they were making changes to the Sub - clasp and/or bezel - this year or next. Is this true - and does the SS M series already have these changes?

You heard correctly. Ceramic bezel ala the GMT-IIC and the GMT clasp made even better with a micro-ratchet adjustment. May be two years or more before it reaches the SS model though.

Magik · 23 May 2008, 09:20 AM

The differences between the two are subtle. You would be better off having your significant other trying them on first.

Appearance wise, the Sub-Date's face looks a tad bigger and has the cyclops over the date where the SD is thicker (which may mean more wrist flop) and doesn't have the cyclops. The SD also has polished sides to the outer links where the Sub-Date does not.

Functionally speaking, they are about the same except for the depth rating associated with each watch which usually doesn't come into play for most people.

Happy hunting and enjoy the watch whichever way you choose.

BTW I got the Sub-Date even though I was planning to get the SD for years. Something made me change my mind when I had both together.

seantk · 23 May 2008, 09:36 AM

If someone were to give me a Submariner or a Sea Dweller I would be very appreciative with either.

However, I would chose the Sea Dweller only because it is being discontinued

Sean

jlwc1974 · 23 May 2008, 10:39 AM

place the sub-date beside the SD , what do you see? a cleaner no nonsense look, a thicker case, thicker crystal, heavier mass, 4times better water resistance, helium valve function, need i say more?

jp1316 · 23 May 2008, 11:05 AM

Unless he is a WIS or a diver, the Sub would be the safer and maybe more mainstream purchase. I don't think either watch will be much of an investment.

tinknock71 · 23 May 2008, 11:29 AM

Oh hell just be done with and bye both

You will always think about the one you didn't get.

Magik · 23 May 2008, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by tinknock71

Oh hell just be done with and bye both

You will always think about the one you didn't get.

Sounds good

. One for each of you. By your user name, I would think that you're a diver and could use a watch too. You buy him one and he can buy you the other.

Andad · 23 May 2008, 05:33 PM

If you can buy a new 'M' Sea-Dweller then that would be the one.

I hope the lucky B appreciates it.

GMTII Owner · 23 May 2008, 08:20 PM

Welcome.

IMHO, I would select the SS Sub. I think it is a classic Rolex. However, with either watch, you can't go wrong.

John

unclesallie · 23 May 2008, 08:24 PM

SS Sub Date. No question.
best,
dan

Trurolexer · 23 May 2008, 08:31 PM

WELCOME TO TRF, Divergirl!!! Hope you enjoy your stay here!!!

BOTH the Winners!!! If you like an iconic watch, then go for Sub. If you like a professional watch, then go for SD. Good Luck!!!

timackerman · 25 May 2008, 01:01 AM

My vote would go to the Sub ND. Best of both worlds. Clean dial and classic look

Baptistman · 25 May 2008, 01:10 AM

After owning both, my view is, they are both superb watches, I do find the Sub a little more comfortable than the Dweller, I prefer the heft of the dweller, plus the polished edges to the bracelet and the clean looking dial.

Difficult choice imo but as its a gift, your probably better of with a Sub.

princewampire · 3 April 2015, 03:55 AM

SD is more expensive, and more appealing and it would be more recognizable as a non-common/cheap watch. For the people here who look at the Rolex as experts, mindsets would be different than the mass people who don`t know anything about the history or the "heritage" behind each product line of the Rolex!
If you want him to wear a Rolex and be complimented for it (which would remind him of your favor more often), go for the bolder more professional Sea Dweller; He doesn`t "have to" be a diver or use its ocean depth utmost capacity necessarily!
ND submariner from 5 feet away (where you can`t see the Rolex brand name, or the crown), looks like a casual Tissot or vintage black Seikos. And you definitely don`t want thousands of dollars be seen as only hundreds!
Good Luck and be wise!

SemperFi · 3 April 2015, 04:00 AM

My vote's for the Sub. Can't beat that clean, classic look.

McLovin · 3 April 2015, 04:02 AM

this thread is 7 years old

The Sub-lime One · 3 April 2015, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by McLovin

this thread is 7 years old

I was about to say... Upgrades on the Sub? What, have I missed something?!

StevePirates · 3 April 2015, 05:26 AM

Well, since 7 years have elapsed, we've had enough time to see which watch did better from a value perspective. Anyone have the numbers at hand?

997.2 · 3 April 2015, 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by princewampire

SD is more expensive, and more appealing and it would be more recognizable as a non-common/cheap watch. For the people here who look at the Rolex as experts, mindsets would be different than the mass people who don`t know anything about the history or the "heritage" behind each product line of the Rolex!
If you want him to wear a Rolex and be complimented for it (which would remind him of your favor more often), go for the bolder more professional Sea Dweller; He doesn`t "have to" be a diver or use its ocean depth utmost capacity necessarily!
ND submariner from 5 feet away (where you can`t see the Rolex brand name, or the crown), looks like a casual Tissot or vintage black Seikos. And you definitely don`t want thousands of dollars be seen as only hundreds!
Good Luck and be wise!

disagreed

I think the sub is more iconic and recognizable. also thanks for calling my watch cheap!

Urosfan · 3 April 2015, 06:35 AM

Welcome I'd go with sub

heatjay · 3 April 2015, 06:37 AM

Sub

Robbyman · 3 April 2015, 06:40 AM

Submariner is just such a classic watch and name that you cannot go wrong. I also love the cyclops and the bezel with less markers.

Anthon · 3 April 2015, 07:58 AM

I almost went out to the AD to buy the last Sea Dweller before it discontinued :)

23 May 2008, 07:04 AM	#1
Divergirl "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Virginia Posts: 7	SS Submariner vs. Seadweller I'm deciding between the SS Submariner Date (black dial) and the Seadweller. I know the Seadwellers cost a bit more - do you think it will be a better investment? (it's a gift - not for me) Thanks!

23 May 2008, 07:07 AM	#2
walds11 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Real Name: Adam Location: Philly ‘burbs Posts: 5,645	I prefer the SS Sub Date because it is a timeless classic. Nothing against the SD except for the fact that it is thicker and too much wrist flop for my tastes. __________________ Adam

23 May 2008, 07:08 AM	#4
vjb.knife Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Vince Location: Pittsburgh, PA Watch: Rolex Sub & GMTIIC Posts: 626	Better investment??? Don't count on any watch as an investment and unless the watch is for someone who is a Commercial Diver doing Saturation diving then you will get better utility out of the Submariner. Or you could ask which he prefers.

23 May 2008, 07:11 AM	#5
f16570 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: F Location: Scotland Watch: Exp II White Face Posts: 4,272	The SD would be my choice but, you know who your are gifting it to. Will they appreciate this "tool"? Sub slightly more subtle. __________________ Why have what's new when you have what's best. f

23 May 2008, 07:25 AM	#7
SPACE-DWELLER "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Bo Location: Denmark Watch: Rolex, of course! Posts: 22,436	Welcome to TRF! Both the SS Sub Date and SD are excellent watches. Either would be a great gift! Personally, I prefer the SD for its clean dial look, higher standig crystal and thicker case. I found some reviews and comparisons for you that might help you decide: Submariner versus SD. Sub LV versus SD. SD versus Omega SMP. Another SD review. As stated, it IS a win/win situation, so basically you cannot go wrong with either! Best of luck! __________________ With kind regards, Bo LocTite 221: The Taming Of The Screw...

23 May 2008, 07:19 AM	#6
Divergirl "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Virginia Posts: 7	I heard that they were making changes to the Sub - clasp and/or bezel - this year or next. Is this true - and does the SS M series already have these changes?

23 May 2008, 09:20 AM	#9
Magik Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Real Name: Patrick Location: Royal Kunia, HI Watch: Sub-Date & GMT ll Posts: 603	The differences between the two are subtle. You would be better off having your significant other trying them on first. Appearance wise, the Sub-Date's face looks a tad bigger and has the cyclops over the date where the SD is thicker (which may mean more wrist flop) and doesn't have the cyclops. The SD also has polished sides to the outer links where the Sub-Date does not. Functionally speaking, they are about the same except for the depth rating associated with each watch which usually doesn't come into play for most people. Happy hunting and enjoy the watch whichever way you choose. BTW I got the Sub-Date even though I was planning to get the SD for years. Something made me change my mind when I had both together.

23 May 2008, 09:36 AM	#10
seantk "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Sean Location: West Florida Posts: 2,671	If someone were to give me a Submariner or a Sea Dweller I would be very appreciative with either. However, I would chose the Sea Dweller only because it is being discontinued Sean __________________ "Life is frittered away with detail... simplify, simplify!" Henry D. Thoreau

23 May 2008, 10:39 AM	#11
jlwc1974 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Singapore Posts: 86	place the sub-date beside the SD , what do you see? a cleaner no nonsense look, a thicker case, thicker crystal, heavier mass, 4times better water resistance, helium valve function, need i say more?

23 May 2008, 11:05 AM	#12
jp1316 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: East Coast Posts: 179	Unless he is a WIS or a diver, the Sub would be the safer and maybe more mainstream purchase. I don't think either watch will be much of an investment.

23 May 2008, 11:29 AM	#13
tinknock71 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Real Name: Derik Location: Michigan Watch: GMT IIC Posts: 101	Oh hell just be done with and bye both You will always think about the one you didn't get.

23 May 2008, 05:33 PM	#15
Andad 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,284	If you can buy a new 'M' Sea-Dweller then that would be the one. I hope the lucky B appreciates it. __________________ E

23 May 2008, 08:20 PM	#16
GMTII Owner "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: John Location: Nashville, TN Watch: S/S GMT Master IIc Posts: 1,210	Welcome. IMHO, I would select the SS Sub. I think it is a classic Rolex. However, with either watch, you can't go wrong. John __________________

23 May 2008, 08:24 PM	#17
unclesallie 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Real Name: dan Location: Pennsylvania Watch: keystone pocket Posts: 5,917	SS Sub Date. No question. best, dan

23 May 2008, 08:31 PM	#18
Trurolexer Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Watch: 5513MaxiI+PreComex Posts: 18,421	Welcome To TRF...Newbie!!! WELCOME TO TRF, Divergirl!!! Hope you enjoy your stay here!!! BOTH the Winners!!! If you like an iconic watch, then go for Sub. If you like a professional watch, then go for SD. Good Luck!!!

25 May 2008, 01:01 AM	#19
timackerman "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Real Name: Tim Location: Calgary Posts: 1,117	My vote would go to the Sub ND. Best of both worlds. Clean dial and classic look __________________ Daytona 116520

25 May 2008, 01:10 AM	#20
Baptistman "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Real Name: Jon Location: UK Posts: 2,405	After owning both, my view is, they are both superb watches, I do find the Sub a little more comfortable than the Dweller, I prefer the heft of the dweller, plus the polished edges to the bracelet and the clean looking dial. Difficult choice imo but as its a gift, your probably better of with a Sub. __________________ Whatever the watch, it's your wrist, it speaks to you, enjoy it

3 April 2015, 03:55 AM	#21
princewampire Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Real Name: Pedram Location: San Diego, CA Watch: Sea Dweller Posts: 27	SD is more expensive, and more appealing and it would be more recognizable as a non-common/cheap watch. For the people here who look at the Rolex as experts, mindsets would be different than the mass people who don`t know anything about the history or the "heritage" behind each product line of the Rolex! If you want him to wear a Rolex and be complimented for it (which would remind him of your favor more often), go for the bolder more professional Sea Dweller; He doesn`t "have to" be a diver or use its ocean depth utmost capacity necessarily! ND submariner from 5 feet away (where you can`t see the Rolex brand name, or the crown), looks like a casual Tissot or vintage black Seikos. And you definitely don`t want thousands of dollars be seen as only hundreds! Good Luck and be wise!

3 April 2015, 04:00 AM	#22
SemperFi "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Real Name: Angelo Location: Brooklyn, NY Watch: Rolex Submariner Posts: 42,164	My vote's for the Sub. Can't beat that clean, classic look.

3 April 2015, 04:02 AM	#23
McLovin "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: USA Watch: SubC Posts: 1,014	this thread is 7 years old

3 April 2015, 05:26 AM	#25
StevePirates "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 204	Well, since 7 years have elapsed, we've had enough time to see which watch did better from a value perspective. Anyone have the numbers at hand?

3 April 2015, 06:35 AM	#27
Urosfan "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: NYC Watch: Me now Posts: 19,315	Welcome I'd go with sub

3 April 2015, 06:37 AM	#28
heatjay Banned Join Date: May 2011 Location: usa Posts: 83	Sub

3 April 2015, 06:40 AM	#29
Robbyman "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Blighty (England) Watch: Daytona/Pepsi/Sub Posts: 1,517	Submariner is just such a classic watch and name that you cannot go wrong. I also love the cyclops and the bezel with less markers.

3 April 2015, 07:58 AM	#30
Anthon "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Netherlands Watch: Explorer Posts: 545	I almost went out to the AD to buy the last Sea Dweller before it discontinued :)

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