Legit Check

[AntShimano]

Hey guys, can someone help legit check this watch for me?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/16610-Submar...MAAOSwBLlVLEw~

This would be my first rolex, and seller and I have agreed to a great price for the watch. I've researched almost everything about it, and asked just about all the right questions. This auction is basically for a watch head with all the paper work and box. Watch is a 16610, early 90s, and seller is saying it was recently serviced by them. There is also a 14 return policy, if it was a fake, or contains any fake parts. Everything seems just about right, but I'm still certain about it. This transaction would be outside of ebay, and through paypal.

Let me know your thoughts, thanks

[AntShimano]

More details from the seller:

"
Watch is early 90's.
Watch is 100% factory.
Serviced by us last week.
Fully serviced.
Comes with 2 years warranty plus 14 days return policy
2 Years warranty - All of the watch time keeping, making sure it keeps accurate time.
Watch is 1989, R serial #
Watch comes with box and booklets.
There are no papers for this watch, only appraisal papers."

[Etschell]

looks like a fake. dont like those crown guards, see real one below:

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=442254

[goldfixer21]

You could find one from a trusted seller on here for close to the same price, why take a chance?

[AntShimano]

Yeah, thanks for the heads up. The S in the "Submariner" looks off as well compared to the link you just sent. Thanks!

[AntShimano]

At $3,800 i thought it was a good price. Thanks for the advice

[AU_911tt]

I don't think it's a fake. I think that is a weird reflection on the crown guards or someone did a bad job polishing.

[pandrew6l]

Originally Posted by AntShimano

Hey guys, can someone help legit check this watch for me?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/16610-Submar...MAAOSwBLlVLEw~

This would be my first rolex, and seller and I have agreed to a great price for the watch. I've researched almost everything about it, and asked just about all the right questions. This auction is basically for a watch head with all the paper work and box. Watch is a 16610, early 90s, and seller is saying it was recently serviced by them. There is also a 14 return policy, if it was a fake, or contains any fake parts. Everything seems just about right, but I'm still certain about it. This transaction would be outside of ebay, and through paypal.

Let me know your thoughts, thanks

Any thing outside of Ebay is a RED FLAG ! Newbies should not buy from Ebay high value items, a direct quote from the Forum old timers.

[Tmac478]

The seller deals in watches and has an excellent rating. Not sure if that guarantees that the watch is real but they always say, buy the seller..



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[cht]

watch looks great to me.

looks as stated, 1990's.

S in submariner looks fine.


not sure what you guys are seeing but crown gaurds look like nice UNpolished crown gaurds to me.

[vman]

The 3 on the date dial looks a bit odd. Also, if the watch has been recently serviced, why not show the pics of the movement and the serial numbers? Finally, there are no pics of the lugs and that is a no-no for me.

Not sure? Save your pennies and get a brand new item from a AD.

[gbx]

i agree with the comments on the crown guards. Case looks after market... also the crown itself is too short and the color is off.

[Old Expat Beast]

Seems the seller is a member here. Maybe you should send him a PM and ask him to chime in here. www.rolexforums.com/member.php?u=85055

[AntShimano]

Attached are additional images that the seller sent.

[AntShimano]

More pictures

[Etschell]

im confused those crown guards are different and so is the insert. the dial S is also flat on the watch you posted instead of round as in the ebay.

convinced it is not the same watch.

[crowncollection]

You sure this is the same watch looks overpolished in the new pics ?


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[AntShimano]

Yes, this is the same watch. I reached out to the seller yesterday for more pictures, and this is what he sent for this watch and ebay listing.

[Bond77]

Look at the color of the pearl. Its not the same insert at least.

[AntShimano]

At least, according to the seller.

[AntShimano]

Thanks for the help everyone. I will be avoiding this listing and seller.

[Etschell]

Originally Posted by AntShimano

Thanks for the help everyone. I will be avoiding this listing and seller.

great call.

[Limited-Watches]

We are the sellers of the above watch.
Watch is 100% genuine Rolex, case, dial, insert, and movement.
We have been selling on Ebay for 14 years and have had 100% positive feedbacks.
As always we have 14 days no questions return policy, if something does not look correct to the customer.

In addition we are members of the NAWCC, IWJG, and WWT in the United States.

[Rodriguez Rolley]

I don't know.... the first link you placed for us to see and judge is different from the second picture you sent us to see....be very careful

[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by Limited-Watches

We are the sellers of the above watch.
Watch is 100% genuine Rolex, case, dial, insert, and movement.
We have been selling on Ebay for 14 years and have had 100% positive feedbacks.
As always we have 14 days no questions return policy, if something does not look correct to the customer.

In addition we are members of the NAWCC, IWJG, and WWT in the United States.

So is the watch in the pics that you sent to the OP (above) the exact same watch as the one in your eBay listing, seen here....?

[cht]

Originally Posted by Limited-Watches

We are the sellers of the above watch.
Watch is 100% genuine Rolex, case, dial, insert, and movement.
We have been selling on Ebay for 14 years and have had 100% positive feedbacks.
As always we have 14 days no questions return policy, if something does not look correct to the customer.

In addition we are members of the NAWCC, IWJG, and WWT in the United States.

You are showing TWO DIFFERENT watches on the SAME strap.


The ebay picture has DIFFERENT insert, (flat 4, patina pearl), rounded S in the dial, and thick crown guards.

The picture you sent the potential buyer has pointed 4 insert, no patina pearl, and flat S dial.

I suggest you get this sorted out ASAP.

[Sublover2166]

Originally Posted by cht

You are showing TWO DIFFERENT watches on the SAME strap.


The ebay picture has DIFFERENT insert, (flat 4, patina pearl), rounded S in the dial, and thick crown guards.

The picture you sent the potential buyer has pointed 4 insert, no patina pearl, and flat S dial.

I suggest you get this sorted out ASAP.

YES!! I see the same thing. 2 different watches.

[TimeToGo]

Wow, incredible!!

[Old Expat Beast]

Limited-watches, this thread, combined with your regular appearance in the Watchout section, has my finger hovering over the ban button right now. I suggest you address this issue fully and promptly.

[Highland Ranger]

Clearly two different watches.

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