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30 November 2015, 06:51 AM | #1 |
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A change of scenery - Sea-dweller 1665 available locally!
So I came across someone who is selling a 1665 from 78. Pretty close to what I've been looking for (5513, from 79) and doesn't have the 2 things I dislike about the 1680 - the cyclops and the top hat. This is superdome baby.
So I'm meeting the seller either tomorrow or day after. He seems like a genuine collector and has sent me the following pictures (below). Some specifics about the watch: - Serial no is 584X - Comes without bracelet/end links - Was inspected for authenticity in 2014 by Swedish Rolex AD, which will be provided. - Bezel has a deep scratch at 20, but is otherwise good and original (can't tell) - Last service was done 2 years ago. Hasn't been tested for water pressure etc. Keeps time well though not measured seconds gained/lost per day. - No box, papers, warranty etc. I'll let the pics tell more. What I like is that while it has features of the 5513, and because it's locally available, I can inspect and buy so less of a risk. I asked if dial, bezel and hands were all original and unchanged and he didn't know but says they "seem to be". Honestly, I can't tell so will let the experts weigh in. Also, what would one typically pay for one of these? What would be a fair price for this condition? He is open to offers and the initial asking price is within my modest budget of approx 9k USD. |
30 November 2015, 07:04 AM | #2 |
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Looks to be a service Dial with the "Swiss" only marking at 6 O'Clock.
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30 November 2015, 12:39 PM | #3 |
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Ah, did not notice that. So the dial should instead have been "Swiss T < 25", just like the 5513 from this era?
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30 November 2015, 01:42 PM | #4 |
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Mid case is not genuine. Walk away quickly.
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30 November 2015, 01:50 PM | #5 |
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Correct. Fonts look horrible. CGs are wrong.
Insert is no good. Bezel looks no good. Run
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30 November 2015, 05:43 PM | #7 |
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Faizan,
don't rush into buying something else because it takes a little longer than expected... this is what vintage collecting is all about, you set your mind on a reference and the hunt starts. there are nice 5513's out there, you only need patience, cash and connections
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This ☝️.
Good thing you check here first. I blame it on the autoconnect. |
1 December 2015, 03:05 AM | #9 |
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Service dial is enough for me to walk... Great advise from the gang...:-)
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X2 I thought those crown guards were from the Deep Sea.
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Gross watch
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This is no good on so many levels. Buy from a reputable dealer.
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Good question....I'd like to know the answer myself. I reckon, its the placeholder of the movement within the actual case and behind the case back, but could be way off the mark...
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Junk
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Haha...I'm glad I got to provide some free entertainment to you helpful folks :)
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Michael,
Mid-case means it is the case body only (without the retaining ring, insert etc). So the case body itself is not an original 1665 case? Thanks. |
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"Not genuine"
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3 December 2015, 09:46 PM | #22 |
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Wow, learnt a lot from this post. Great stuff TRF!
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3 December 2015, 09:48 PM | #23 |
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Sorry, I meant thread! Trying to get my head around some of the nuances we need to keep an eye out for has got my vocab in a twist!
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