A seemingly perfect 5513 from 79...go on, tell me what's wrong!

[fizz]

I really, really like this Mark 3 from 79.

Very reputed seller, but price is a premium.

I was negotiating with the seller who I had previously posted about a few days ago hoping to finalise that watch (here), when I got an email from this new seller who I had contacted some time earlier with an enquiry. I really can't find any fault with this, but again, I've been proven wrong many times.

Does this ring any alarm bells? Should I just pull the trigger and pay the extra 500 Euros? Dial, insert, pearl, all seem exceptional. Love the faded look. Polished yes, but doesn't bother me. Nothing about this does (so far).

Thoughts and opinions welcome.

[RolexJNJ]

Hi! Looks like Bulang & Sons. Very nice watch, I love the insert. The case has been polished/refinished. The hands look original and matching. The dial looks good, but the crystal is so reflective that its hard to say for sure in these pics.

Overall a great looking watch from an excellent seller.

Good luck!

[fizz]

Thanks for your imports Joe,

Yes bulang. A bit expensive but such a lovely looking thing. I'll wait for a few others to pitch in before making a decision of which one (unless one of them gets sold off...).

What do you think of the other one I was considering (link in original post).

[fizz]

I'll try to put up a close up of the dial shortly.

[RolexJNJ]

Hi, my pleasure. Between those 2, I like the Bulang watch better.

Have you checked HQ Milton? They always have a great selection:

http://www.hqmilton.com/search/resul...keywords=5513/

[fizz]

Yes I have been in touch with Jacek. I'm looking for a 79 in particular as a birth year. He has one but it has bubbling on the dial.

[RolexJNJ]

I really like this one, but its a '78: http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=444884

[Zoran]

Originally Posted by RolexJNJ

I really like this one, but its a '78: http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=444884

I also like the dial and hands on this one Joe, regardless if it may be from 78 rather than 79.

Faizan, considering your questions, remarks and quest for the most perfect 5513 Maxi, the darker hands on the one from B&S will bother you.
Even if you tell yourself over & over that this is normal with Maxi 5513's to have a darker shade of hands, you are going to trip over this. And you will pay more now as you mentioned for that watch, with the probability that you will want to trade it in for one that full pleases you.

These are just my observations based on your last few posts...don't get mad if I'm wrong
If you feel you will be happy with the one from B&S, then by all means get it.
I like the watch, and have them throw in a nice leather strap or 2 for that price difference
In worst case, you can always look for a set of hands to match the dial, they appear often on VRM from what I can tell.

Good luck!

[studioal]

B&S watch seems to be the nicest example from what you have considered thus far. Best crown guards of the bunch, and the bezel is very nice. Dial looks really nice as well.

Good luck with your search. Don't feel obligated to buy something. Another one is always around the corner!

[fizz]

Originally Posted by RolexJNJ

I really like this one, but its a '78: http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=444884

78 is a non-issue really...serial numbers are approximations and I did consider this one earlier, which I really liked, except for the pitting.

The big deterrent is the price. I just can't shell out 11k USD!

[fizz]

Originally Posted by Zoran

Faizan, considering your questions, remarks and quest for the most perfect 5513 Maxi, the darker hands on the one from B&S will bother you.
Even if you tell yourself over & over that this is normal with Maxi 5513's to have a darker shade of hands, you are going to trip over this. And you will pay more now as you mentioned for that watch, with the probability that you will want to trade it in for one that full pleases you.

These are just my observations based on your last few posts...don't get mad if I'm wrong
Good luck!

Thanks for the feedback Zoran. The hands don't bother me at all. I am attaching close ups of the dial and they look fine. Slight difference in shade, but I'm not particular about this. Frankly, I'm not being demanding and am not looking for the best 5513, because those would be out of my league. I am looking for something that is complete. This has a bit of everything in great condition including insert and pearl (amongst everything else).

Originally Posted by studioal

B&S watch seems to be the nicest example from what you have considered thus far. Best crown guards of the bunch, and the bezel is very nice. Dial looks really nice as well.

Good luck with your search. Don't feel obligated to buy something. Another one is always around the corner!

True...I don't feel obligated but I don't want to be a perfectionist who never makes a decision. To me, personally, this is it the most ideal specimen I have come across so far that is actually available and not completely out of my budget (it is, but I don't mind paying for a complete piece).

Dial pictures below:

[asleep]

Is it normal for the inside-under point of the lugs to have that chamfer?

https://bulangandsons.com/wp-content...4-S6.03-24.jpg

[RolexJNJ]

Originally Posted by fizz

78 is a bit of a non-issue..serial numbers are approximations.

The big deterrent is the price. I just can't shell out 11k USD!

I know the feeling my friend. Depending on your budget, it may be worthwhile anyhow to contact the seller. You never know if he's willing to go any lower...

Either way, you've sought out some good pieces and know what to look for. So I hope we see one on your wrist soon!

[studioal]

Originally Posted by asleep

Is it normal for the inside-under point of the lugs to have that chamfer?

https://bulangandsons.com/wp-content...4-S6.03-24.jpg

I think that's just lighting. The underside should be nice and sharp, depending on polish and condition.

[studioal]

Mike Wood has a few Submariners for sale if you're interested in options:

http://www.theoldwatchshop.com/rolex.html

[Robbyvm]

i prefer the one in the link... puffy dial, domed plexi, grey insert, not freshly polished and well matching hand colour...

but that's just my 2 cents

[fizz]

Originally Posted by asleep

Is it normal for the inside-under point of the lugs to have that chamfer?

https://bulangandsons.com/wp-content...4-S6.03-24.jpg

Good question, I noticed that too but have no idea.

Originally Posted by studioal

Mike Wood has a few Submariners for sale if you're interested in options:

http://www.theoldwatchshop.com/rolex.html

Thanks, I'm specifically looking for a Maxi from 79 which he doesn't seem to have at the moment. The site has a 5513 from 78 but that has a service dial with WG.

Originally Posted by Robbyvm

i prefer the one in the link... puffy dial, domed plexi, grey insert, not freshly polished and well matching hand colour...

but that's just my 2 cents

Thanks - both of these are very much under consideration. One has the better price the other the better overall look but I'd be happy with either one really. I'm hoping to make a decision imminently so all inputs are welcome.

[SLS]

Originally Posted by asleep

Is it normal for the inside-under point of the lugs to have that chamfer?

https://bulangandsons.com/wp-content...4-S6.03-24.jpg

This caught my attention too and I was wondering if some work has been does to this case. The front side chamfers appear nice too. I am just not experienced enough to tell.

[Pharmlou]

Originally Posted by fizz

Good question, I noticed that too but have no idea.



Thanks, I'm specifically looking for a Maxi from 79 which he doesn't seem to have at the moment. The site has a 5513 from 78 but that has a service dial with WG.



Thanks - both of these are very much under consideration. One has the better price the other the better overall look but I'd be happy with either one really. I'm hoping to make a decision imminently so all inputs are welcome.

If you can afford it, buy the one with "the better overall look". It has been polished more recently than the other one you are looking for,but judging by the language you are using, this is the one. For the record, the puffy lume is common on the late 70's maxi dials. There are a few threads on VRF about it.
Decisions, decisions.

[Boaters]

The one from Bulang & Sons gets my vote ... Very nice indeed.

[droptopman]

Both are fine examples. I really like the insert on the B&S watch. Probably like the 78 overall a little more, but would replace the insert and at the premium price you might expect it to already have a nice FF.

Tough decision.

[springer]

Originally Posted by asleep

Is it normal for the inside-under point of the lugs to have that chamfer?

https://bulangandsons.com/wp-content...4-S6.03-24.jpg

Yes it is...quite normal.

[asleep]

Originally Posted by springer

Yes it is...quite normal.

Cool, thanks.

I really like this one for you, Fizz. It's got that blue insert you like and a nice case and matchy-matchy hands/plots.

But it's not my decision.

[RC2]

Looks awesome. Congrats I think you found a winner

[fizz]

Originally Posted by droptopman

Both are fine examples. I really like the insert on the B&S watch. Probably like the 78 overall a little more, but would replace the insert and at the premium price you might expect it to already have a nice FF.

Tough decision.

Thanks for your inputs, I am not considering the 78. The two under consideration are this one and the one I linked to my original post (also a 79, Maxi 3, faded insert - so both very, very identical).

Decision, hopefully soon.

[fizz]

Originally Posted by Pharmlou

If you can afford it, buy the one with "the better overall look". It has been polished more recently than the other one you are looking for,but judging by the language you are using, this is the one. For the record, the puffy lume is common on the late 70's maxi dials. There are a few threads on VRF about it.
Decisions, decisions.

Louis, you are almost reading my mind there. I do prefer this one. The price is a slight premium and over the budgetary limit I have self-imposed, but as someone else stated in another discussion, in a couple of years, price is forgotten if you get something you really like.

For the record, I am not at all turned off by the puffy dial on the other one. In fact, not only is it legitimately found in those late 70's dials as you've said, but also makes it look unique. However that has one imperfection (very minor - which is the pearl) which I probably will need to spend slightly extra on eventually to fix/replace.

Might as well pay B&S and get the full deal. That's my reasoning for now anyway.

[waspy1]

Originally Posted by springer

Yes it is...quite normal.

It is common, but be aware that this is case wear caused by a loose and worn bracelet which ha nibbled at the inside of the lugs. It will likely not be visible on the wrist.


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[fmc000]

The watch in the OP looks really nice IMHO.

[U5512]

Watch looks great to me and I hope you will end up with it. I have the same MKIII dial and love it.

[fizz]

Quick update to those who had helped out - the watch sold out before I could finalize. I must have missed out by a few hours. That's fine since it was way too pricey anyway (nearly 10k USD!).

I may negotiate and focus on the one from the other thread or...perhaps keep looking?