Is Patek going away from deployant clasps on some complicatd watches?

[jon_jon]

I know people have commented on the fact that when Patek introduced the 5905 they removed the deployant claps in favor of the tang buckle (compared to the 5960P).

However I recently saw a photo of the 5327 in the Revolution magazine and noticed it has a tang buckle, whereas the 5140 had a deployant clasp. Has any forum member seen the 5327 in person and can you verify that they indeed released the 5327 with a tang buckle?

I wonder if this will be a trend or a cost saving measure. Personally I don't know if the 5327 with the thin 240 movement needs a deployant clasp, but it was nice to have one on the 5140.

[AckAck]

I'm in the minority because of the size and shape of my wrist. 6 1/8".. ultra thin and bony. I actually prefer the tang to deployment from Patek. Their deployment does not sit well on my wrist for some reason.

[unknown]

The most exclusive and most expensive always come with tang buckle
So I would not say it's cost saving

5213, repeater perpetual calendar
The 10 days tourbillon
Repeater 5078
5207 repeater tourbillon perpetual
And many more real grande complications are always with tang buckle

[kunlun]

You can always order a deployant.

[Tony64]

Agree with those above favoring the standard tang buckle.
Historically it was the more traditional choice for fine dress watches, with the deployant reserved for sportier complications such as chronographs.

The later generations of the 3940 began a trend toward the deployant, perhaps to help justify the frequent price increases. IIRC, Patek added the winding box at around the same time. The successor perpetual calendars all came with deployants, but perhaps the trend is now changing?

I'd welcome a return to the standard buckle, I've always found it to be more comfortable, less bulky, and keeps attention focused where it belongs - on the watch!

[martinr]

I love the deployant on my 5170, it's really comfortable and keeps the watch perfectly positioned and it doesn't slide up and down my wrist. I had to put a hole in between the existing holes for a perfect fit. The 5905P should have come with a deployant.

[martinr]

Here's the buckle on the 5905. I put an extra hole in this one also. It works and is comfortable but I worry about dropping the watch putting it on.

[kol]

The reasoning I got from Patek was that it is easier to admire e.g. the movements of minute repeaters if the watch has normal buckle. However, I believe that in the case of 5905P the reason of bucle was to drop the price of the watch compared to 5960P.

Best, Kari

[erics]

I was looking to swap the deployant buckle for a tang on my 5712r as i found the deployant mildly uncomfy, bulkier and heavier.

Contacted Patek about it. They wanted to make custom straps and tang. Cost was going to be prohibitive.

Dropped the strap by one increment and it's better but not perfect.

[Socal to az]

On my 5905, they had to make a custom strap for the deployant I got. So now I have two straps and two buckles. I love the deployant. Much better fit for me.

[subtona]

Deployant can be a challenging fit,

the tang By comparison fits a larger variety of wrists for the same size strap.

[Finkalot]

I have a deployant clasp on the 5146 and wish it came with the tang instead. However, now that I have the deployant, I feel it would be a waste to not use it! Lol

So ordered a custom length strap which would make the deployant more comfortable for my 6.5" wrists. Whether this would work still remains to be seen once the strap arrives.


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[jenniferjanef]

Well I too agree that the tang is a nice fit but for the 5905 at lease pp can put on something more special i.e. The tang used on 5235g would be nice.

[benlee]

I prefer the deployant and I got one for my 5205R. Just add a bit of "class" to the watch.

[KarlS]

Deployant all the way...safer...no problem with the fit and I get my AD to throw it in....new 5205R

[kilyung]

Love the convenience of deployant but tang is SO much more comfortable IMO

[goog53]

Love the tang on my 5235 but get very nervous everytime I put it on that I may drop her. Deployants are nice as well but not being able to see the movement can be frustrating. Whatever PP puts on the watch I tend to stick with to keep it original. It was told that ALS decided to upgrade many of their models to come standard with deployants that used to come with tangs as opposed to decreasing their prices like Patek did in the US.

[D.O.]

Interesting because I have a 5070R on the deployant and love it so when i picked up my 5905P and it had a tang i wasn't really feeling it.

The fit of the tang is good and comfortable for me but I've been thinking id get the deployant for the 5905P as well as its got more "pop" for lack of a better description.

Also, almost dropped the 5905P once while trying to wear it, always wondered how you could almost drop a watch while wearing it, then it happened. deployant for the win i say.

[JorgeCCW]

I never mess with the original design that Patek creates; if it comes with pin and buckle leave it alone , same with the calatrava clasp. I feel like I am doing some kind of after market crap ; I know is not but thats how I feel about it.

Cheers

[AckAck]

Originally Posted by JorgeCCW

I never mess with the original design that Patek creates; if it comes with pin and buckle leave it alone , same with the calatrava clasp. I feel like I am doing some kind of after market crap ; I know is not but thats how I feel about it.

Cheers

Exactly how I feel as well!

[Tony64]

Originally Posted by JorgeCCW

I never mess with the original design that Patek creates; if it comes with pin and buckle leave it alone , same with the calatrava clasp. I feel like I am doing some kind of after market crap ; I know is not but thats how I feel about it.

Cheers

I actually completely agree with this statement.
I mean, I know it's wrong and makes little sense, but still I can't help but feel exactly the same way!

[Socal to az]

Disagree. Deployant straps are more comfortable. Get em while you can. :)

[KarlS]

In answer to OP I have tried on the 5327G (blue dial) and it had fold over clasp. If the original design of a watch is sacred I sure hope no one changes the colour of the straps. To me there are no sacred cows!

[lapince]

Originally Posted by subtona

Deployant can be a challenging fit,

the tang By comparison fits a larger variety of wrists for the same size strap.

When I got my 5726 on strap, the pain after a few hours was excruciating, it was digging in the bone, so I had to order a smaller strap, strange as I have 6.9 wrists, but with the big the deployment was too much on the side, after that it was fine...

[KarlS]

Originally Posted by unknown

The most exclusive and most expensive always come with tang buckle
So I would not say it's cost saving

5213, repeater perpetual calendar
The 10 days tourbillon
Repeater 5078
5207 repeater tourbillon perpetual
And many more real grande complications are always with tang buckle

6300, 6002, 6104, 6102, 5374, 5208, 5539 all have deployant

In fact I can't see any correlation. 5207 is prong 5208 deployant. 5160 and 5159 deployant but add repeater it becomes prong.

[JorgeCCW]

Originally Posted by Tony64

I actually completely agree with this statement.

I mean, I know it's wrong and makes little sense, but still I can't help but feel exactly the same way!

Yep I get you , is just how I feel about it , so nobody can't disagree on how you feel. LoL

But yeah another different example , is when I see those guys that adding spoilers to their cars Lol; of course that is a more dramatic change but yeah I just don't mess with it.


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[997.2TTS]

Originally Posted by martinr

Here's the buckle on the 5905. I put an extra hole in this one also. It works and is comfortable but I worry about dropping the watch putting it on.

For this reason, the deployment clasp was purchase at the same time I picked up my 5905. A bit annoyed that it's not standard on a rather high dollar piece.

[jon_jon]

Originally Posted by KarlS

In answer to OP I have tried on the 5327G (blue dial) and it had fold over clasp. If the original design of a watch is sacred I sure hope no one changes the colour of the straps. To me there are no sacred cows!

I appreciate the confirmation that the 5327 comes with the deployant clasp. Maybe the photo on the Revolution magazine, that was showing the Basel pieces, was photoshopped. I was curious if they lowered the price of the 5327, compared with the 5140, and removed the deployant clasp for cost savings.

[betterwatchit]

Just curious, but what's the consensus on which type of buckle is more secure? Many thanks!

[KarlS]

Originally Posted by jon_jon

I appreciate the confirmation that the 5327 comes with the deployant clasp. Maybe the photo on the Revolution magazine, that was showing the Basel pieces, was photoshopped. I was curious if they lowered the price of the 5327, compared with the 5140, and removed the deployant clasp for cost savings.

http://www.patek.com/en/mens-watches...ions/5327G-001

I never asked the price of the 5327 as in the blue I couldn't read the numbers. Beautiful though